Is she right Yas Forums???? Why or why not???

Is she right Yas Forums???? Why or why not???

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Yes.

That’s not necessarily true. I might think that the job is better left undone as a whole, or that people who do it should die

Yes. I have had jobs that I hated doing, and paid little despite being a lot of work.
Know what I did?
I got a better job....

Women are never right
She's half-assing making her point by not providing an example, because if she did then someone could make an argument as to why that person's job is not necessary

The market decides the value of the work. Who cares if it hurts a roasties feelings that her made up job has no value?

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If you want a living wage, stop importing people who will do your job for half of your salary. But you never hear these clowns propose immigration control.

Bitch no 40 year old should be flipping hamburgers

Yes.

It mean that this job is really not needed if somebody pays so little for it

That bitch should get a better job. If you're 40 and trying to raise a family on an absolute bottom-tier job made for teens who live with their parents then you're a failure and deserve what you don't have

Unironically, yes.
Now, here come the boomers and kikels to tell us that business owners are poor defenseless innocent angels because they survived the holocaust and need more reparations

She's right and so is her strawman.
Why the fuck should factory workers have fancy things?
That money should go towards useful development, not bread and circuses for the plebs.

high school dropouts used to be able to make a living wage
now you either need to be in the trades or college to make a living wage

But is that really the case, that a janitor in the US isn't paid a wage he can live by?

No... Telling someone to get a better job doesn't acknowledge the job needs to be done. Not every job needs to be done.

Also, if someone did replace you they might be a teenager or someone who doesn't rely on the salary to live. My mother taught at an elementary school even though my father made tons of money just because she wanted to.

market does NOT decide. crony capitalism, subsidized industries and companies, even TIP JARS EVERYWHERE fucks that up.

people are desperate.

Imagine having an entry-level job that literal retards can do and thinking you deserve a living wage.

and if there ARE no other jobs? what then?

Yes, that is the case.

Checked and true

There are.

>"Working a job that a literal monkey could do and bitching about your pay" is a fascinating way to spin "BIX NOOD MUHFUGGA"
ftfy

Not really, but unless you are a shitskin from Mexico who is already accommodated to abject poverty, you're not going to have anything resembling a decent life.

Well sure we asknowledge that. Is every job worth 6 figures? how come? could it be that some jobs are just worth less than others?

>both parents would need to work to feed a family of four
>oh the horror
>two people making $13k a year is a living wage for a family of four
>omg how will we survive?

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Make your own, or you could always go live nomadically on crown land.

Yes. That's why all our janitors are dead.

Anyone can be a janitor. Not everyone can be a brain surgeon, or even a programmer.

Sorry you're too fucking stupid to do anything other than pick up trash and clean toilets. But that's not society's fault, nor is it a "boomer" conspiracy.

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I NEEEEED TO CONSUME MCDONALDS AND OVERPRICED COFFEEEEE

True poverty in the US today is only experienced by junkies, lazy commies, and actual disabled folks.

strawman. low wage jobs are living wages. she wants luxury wages without any extra work.
the irony being most of these low wage jobs will allow you to work 60 hours a week if you want. then you get a manager position making 3x as much.

because a job meant for teenagers to buy candy has become a career for uni grads with a degree in gender studies

just go to the magic job bank and GET ANOTHER JOB that pays more? SO SIMPLE.

poor people just dont Want more money. all figured out. fucking kids

No one is forcing you to work for shit wages, but people do anyway....

>you're saying that...
No we aren't saying trash shouldn't be picked up. We, and the people picking up the trash are saying trash getting picked up is worth X.

ITT:

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minimum wage shouldn't exist at all. Youre paid what you're worth. Stupidity and lack of skills shouldn't be subsidized.

How do you define a living wage?

Yes, janitor is an important job. Things need to be kept clean. That doesn't mean they should get paid as much as pediatric surgeons. Supply and demand come in to play here, and immigration is why the value of lower skill jobs is as as poor as it is.

in the winter, in a tent. genious. poor people MUST want poverty

>just go to the magic job bank and GET ANOTHER JOB that pays more
It's called indeed.com
And if you aren't qualified to work a better job then git gud skrub

>They do it for free

Are you sure about that? I must imagine the US isn't so far gone that it doesn't separate between useless and actually useful labor. I mean, most of the people I hear this shit from seem to be burger flippers or barruistahs or whatever it's called, i.e. jobs that would be done better by a machine. These people are not really needed in the workforce, and so naturally their wages will be dumped to the bare minimun.

A janitor who picks up burger wrappers and mops up nigger feces and changes lightbulbs and shit is something that's actually needed. So I have a hard time seeing how wages could be pushed in the same way.

But I will say, if you're telling the truth and janitors work at wages that can't support them then it's time for janitors to just stop giving a shit and become criminals instead.

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She's right and NatSoc pilled.
If you work, you shouldn't be in poverty.

>day shift factory worker
>job for high schoolers to buy candy
So, do you eat the foreskins yourself, or are they for your masters?

that's not how you use "whomever"

you're right, life is simpler in gulags where the government has all control. vote for bernie he'll make them real

>implying every job is supposed to be a way to the top and you can just shovel dogshit to buy your dream home and all your fun toys
This is what leftists literally believe? Holy fuck, they're dumber than I thought!

Oh... ok.. just cause you said it. none 2 hour commutes fo you.. magic good jobs EVERYWHERE

fucking this

Yes, but there's always plenty of retards that will break their back for nothing.

Not true, job is also a market, it's supply vs demand. If you don't like being paid a little for your job, get another job that you think will pay you better. You know why they can pay you minimum wage? Because there are a lot of people who will do your job if you don't want it.

I'm deeply ashamed to say this, but I agree with the leaf.
>job made for teens
Tell me user, are the establishments whose jobs are made for teens closed during school hours, so their employees can attend class? No? Well guess what, that means that jobs in retail or the food service industry aren't really for teens.

>Waah I don't want to work to survive, I should just be given a warm house and copious food
C'est la vie, nigger. If you don't like it then just give up and starve to death.

If you want wages to rise, stop advocating for policies that import >10,000 people a week into our nation.

Nazi Germany was a welfare state.

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Yes but no job is worth not being able to live on, talking the basic neccessities of the day like a phone, internet, furniture, a car and nutrition, with mild comforts sprinkled in like getting a sandwich or having a drink on the weekend. It's not much to ask and there's no reason someone putting in 8 hours a day shouldn't be able to afford a modest, but not borderline hermetic lifestyle.

According to a Google search they make between 22k and 45k a year. So - nothing special but you can live on that.

>The market decides the value of the work
No China does. And their bug people culture is so fucked up they'll work for free practically. Or have such a fucking shithole that they have to install suicide nets on the factories.
All our factories went over there.
The reason your economy actually sucks, and the reason that you don't get paid shit, is because the Chinese will do that job as slaves.
And so we have to compete with outright slavery.
If the Chinese weren't such bug people then maybe we could have nicer lives. They effect every economy, and every country with their cheap ass shit and slave working conditions.
The entire place needs to be nuked. Corona I give you power.

>from each according to their abilities; to each according to their needs
so under communism a married janitor with 5 kids would make more money than a bachelor pediatric surgeon?

If everyone has a "better" job then it leaves a labor shortage for those other jobs causing an increase in wages. If every swinging dick and yeast infected clam can/will do it, then why value them at anything but poverty. Her post is a fascinating way to spin "I'm a useless piece of shit who can be replaced by a brown down syndrome person"

Oh .. i see youre responding to the "janitors should be paid the same as pediatric surgeons" argument. smart!

Form unions and break retards kneecaps? Worked well here in the early 1900s.

>for teens closed during school hours
>what are teens who aren't in school anymore
wo!

>muh market
Why is the market flooding the country with chinks and pajeets, massively driving down wages and supporting an increasingly horrible job environment?

I’m living in my car saving a ton of money.
Everybody jelly

That's what I suspected. Socialists are always dishonest.

Most jobs are unnecessary. Look at HR for a start

>i think an adult should be a mcdonald's worker.

Those are jobs for kids to learn responsibility, not 45 year old losers.

I don't acknowledge that this unnamed mystery job of hers needs to be done. I don't know anything about it. There are lots of jobs I'd be completely fine with disappearing forever.

are you a fucking jew? explain to me how anyone deserves to be in poverty solely because of the job they are doing. you're so retarded if someone shot you they'd go to jail for animal cruelty.

>trash getting picked up is worth X.
They decide its worth X, because jose jalapeno will do it for X, not because its actually not a job worth more than X
But as long as little kike pleasers like you are around, we'll keep denying whites opportunities, importing shitskins, and enriching the lives of the chosen people

It's a race to the bottom with beaners living 15 to an apartment.
For regular people, you'll never be able to afford a house or family.

Just the sort of cope boomer apologist post I expect from a white kid who got to go to college with his parents support.

Someone needs to do that job, and they deserve to be paid decently.

Why do these faggots assume that a person should be able to live alone in their own apartment at age 20 regardless of what job they have and where they live for a society to be heathy? What are niggers and teenagers supposed to do in a world where it's illegal to work for less than $15?
Most teenagers I know are not worth even $7.25 an hour. Why do YOU not hire a teenager to help you around the house, do chores and run errands? No literally: why do you not hire a teenager or nigger to help you? If you're sure about a person's rights, WHY DON'T YOU HIRE THEM?
Right, because you don't have the fucking money. Well, the pizza place around the corner doesn't have the money either. Bernouts would literally reallocate our entire nation's economy to WalMart.

And the same people who will not pay taxes on that earned money but instead send it back to their families in their home countries.

My job is calling you a faggot.
If you don't pay me enough, you should go to jail.

Oh the "give me a warm house and copious food" demand. well argued.

definitely heard that before! ass

That isn't a steamship

>explain to me how anyone deserves to be in poverty solely because of the job they are doing
Easy, the job they are doing is made for people with less responsibilities. If you want more luxury in life you need to make yourself more valuable, like it or not we live in a society

She's absolutely correct. Demanding work be done at a wage below what people can actually afford to live on is a direct cause of immigration.

Most of those jobs (mcdonalds) are meant for teenagers. If not (like a janitor) then they should get a better wage yes.

Ok, I can buy that. Deport beans or balkanize then. How is paying beaners more any solution?

yeah, she's right

>You know who ELSE was a welfare state!
>AnCap flag

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somehow (((they))) managed to trick society into thinking that poor people with no power are the cause of all the problems in the country

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>no one does job because they got better jobs
>job still needs doing
>employer forced to pay more to get job done

It's almost as if women are incapable of extrapolating through time.

>Import illegal mexicans who work for pennies on the dollar
>"WHY IS MY BURGER FLIPPING JOB NOT GIVING ME A "LIVING" WAGE?"
Makes me think.

Also, in most cases minimum wage is enough to live off of. You just have to cut out most luxuries people decide they can't live without.

poverty isnt a bug in capitalism its a feature and one of the most important to the function of the machine.

Does she think a fucking janitor should be making 6 figures or some shit? Those jobs are going to robots in the future anyway

Wow - this is my first time being preemptively blocked by someone. I have no recollection of her, but I'm already blocked.