The Alcohol Jew

my mom used to it quit drinking. she doesn't go anymore, but recommends it to people with alcohol problems occasionally.

>I am incapable of self control without going to group with pyramid symbol and absorbing doctrine

No shit sherlock, it's a disease. Good for you and your big brain, some of us are weaker, so fucking what.

Remember to pray during your recovery, user. You can't fight a spiritual battle with mortal weapons and except to win. May you feel the Lord's hand on you in this trial.

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>cant fix anything by drinking
watch me

AA is statistically the best method to stop drinking. They have a good track record. Trust them they know what they're doing they've been doing it a long time. You can find groups that are small and fun and full of people that match your personality. There will always be goofy large groups first and it takes some time to find the meeting for you but there are meetings for all types of people.

I'm in a meeting right now, 13 yrs sober, AMA.

>user drinks a beer and try to stop
REEEE FUCKING KIKE CULT SATANIC PEDOPHILE RING #JEWCOCHOLICS_JEWNONYMOUS
Your brain of Yas Forumstard propaganda

>my thoughts are a disease
that would be the goal for them, yes.

Not everything is Jew influence you fucking retard. Alcoholics and alcohol addicts always fucking existed as far back as 8000 years ago.

Well you do need a bit of self discipline, I was assigned 3 times already to go, but I never went, I can stay sober for a day and then go back drinking 10 beers a day. I think it would help having people who are in the same condition, but without self discipline it's worthless

free yourself from the liquid jew you know inside yourself its the right thing to do.

Jew York investment class boomers looking scared! Lol!

If you're a social person or socially-adept it can be great. The people I met there were all very nice, caring, and helpful. If you're not very social then it is annoying and useless.

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The only jewish thing about alcohol is how fucking expensive it is

I just stopped drinking didn't need Jesus or God to help

>fedoras
This word has no meaning. Christfags use it only because they imitate each other.

Had to go to some AA meetings to get a disorderly conduct charge dismissed. Some of the groups are okay with decent people, but other groups are filled with people who are pissed off about how shit their lives are. I've heard people say that they'll be someone's sponsor, but if they get a phone call they tell the other person to just figure it out since that's what they had to do.

They weren't using the word jew like that, they were using it to denote something inherently evil and destructive. It's a valid and definitionally correct usage.

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Very true. You're still good, I'm at 24 packs now.

I'm 2.5 years sober now. I was a pretty bad alcoholic. I've been to AA on and off the last 10 years. No, it's not a cult. It's free and it really does help people. You are talking to people that share the same struggles as you and it feels good to have other people understand what you are going through as apposed to going to a rehab or therapist that doesn't have a clue what you are going through.

I drink a lot, several times per week, usually at night

When do you realise you have a problem?

It's obviosly not a disease. What blood, brain samples, or genes can you put under a microscope and say "look there is the disease." It's self eveident that it's not a disease.

132 days sober here, I found weed helped keep me from needing booze

At least with weed I don't consistently black out and cause bullshit because I'm weak

My trick really though was to just fuck up so badly that you have literally no urge to drink alcohol ever again - it's worked out so far

A day? Holy fuck, how you find the time to?

What did you do?

4.2 years sober. AA has been part of that. Sure it’s full of fags, but whatever, my life is so much better and I’m happier than I have ever been

Same here. Hangovers aren’t worth it.

1 year sober. AA is not a cult. It is good to help you avoid the fucking cravings of drinking.
Just go to a meeting, you can leave whenever you want. Remember they are in the same boat as you.

Alcoholics are genetic waste

It's not a cult but it has cult behaviors and principles. Also it's statistically less effective than doing nothing. I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Orange Papers.

The only reason I quit drinking was because of them. 3 years now. I'm a better person as a result too.

I had to hit rock bottom before I gave it up. I had to shotgun at least 3 four locos every morning before work and take a few shots of whatever I had just in order to get rid of the shakes. I would drink at least a 40 on lunch breaks and at least a 32 oz on other breaks. I would usually drink until I blacked out every night. I eventually lost my job, my girl friend, my kid, a lot of friends, my license, my will to live. It sucked. I put myself in rehab and started attending AA and now Ive been clean for 2.5 years and have most of that stuff back. I'm never taking another drink again.

Ruined a few relationships

Flooded three apartments (same incident)

Drove all around while blacked out (no dui thank god)

Spent the past 5 years at college getting absolutely shit faced on liquor daily. Now at law school and did the same for the first year. Suffice to say it embarrassed the fuck out of me and this last semester was the breaking point when I broke up with my super hot, out of my league girlfriend so that I could sit at home in my boxers and get crossfaded and play video games

But I would recommend stopping before it gets to that point. I get my story isn't nearly as bad as other people's experiences, but it was enough to change my life.

Addiction is knowing that you don't want to do something, knowing it's bad for you, and doing it anyway.

Once you recognize that, you can fix it. The only way to solve a problem is to know you have a problem. Be realistic and be humble about it. Yeah, it sucks that we can't drink and be normal like everyone else. Yeah, it gets boring not drinking. Yeah, it blows. But is it worth ruining the rest of your life for something that doesn't even taste good?

I'm in my last year of law school
The party lifestyle catches up to some people here, including me sometimes

I'm 90 days sober, and I will say the program works, if you work it. I guess it can seem like a cult from the outside looking in, but it has really helped me in my sobriety. I was more of a drug user, but I prefer AA to NA. The people in NA are a bit too depressing for me, and "found god" so they can get a bit preachy. AA has helped me a lot, I don't necessarily agree with everything, but out of everything I've done, AA has worked the best for me. You just have to find a good group. AA has also taught me to be much friendlier and outgoing with people. At some of the meetings I go to, there was a few guys, that I didn't like because they seemed self-righteous, and wanted to be motivational speakers. I learned that even though I wouldn't want to hang out with them, they're at least trying to spread a positive message.

It’s a cult but that might be what you’re looking for to stop drinking

>are they a cult?
Yeah sort of.
>does the 12 step program help
All the research ever done shows it’s completely worthless as a treatment for alcoholism.
>any of you guys ever go?
Yes for over a year.

They’re autistic about religion and their process but it’s pseudoscience from a century ago wrapped up in some bible self help talk. There is literally no point. If you need help with alcoholism I highly suggest actual evidence based rehab or even talking to a psychologist who specializes in addiction/alcoholism.

The reason I call them a cult is that they absolutely refuse any scientific or medical research to help the program be more effective. That’s some true believer type bullshit

How many times do you piss per day

Just stop drinking. Or better yet, only have a couple of drinks. It's called self control. If you cant do that you're trash, just blow your brains out.

So who conducted this study?

not him, but i was drinking the same and i pissed at least every hour.

>drinking a shit ton of beer
Do other alcoholics really do this? Aren't you extremely fat? Have you ever heard of liquor?
I'm a pretty big alkie and I switched to liquor years ago

aa is good. shop around and find a group u like. work the program.

Unfortunately, you can't help those who help themselves. Addicts of all types, are good at lying, deceiving, and hiding their addiction. Like I stated earlier, I'm only 96 days sober but I've seen a lot of people go to a few meetings, not take it seriously (Court ordered, etc.) and go back. I don't agree with everything, but I see how it works. If you're unable to come to terms with the fact that you can't stop drinking or using drugs, it won't work. I've been to rehab before, and harbored resentment towards it. AA, was a better fit for me, because sharing experiences made me realize that a lot of people had very similar stories.

AA's founder, Bill, was treated successfully with LSD. that was his "ah hah!" moment that he speaks so candidly about throughout the literature.

If I drink liquor I will drink 2L in a day and destroy evrything around me. with beer i can only physically drink so much so I don't get too drunk

Congratulations, you aren't alcoholics. For alcoholics, AA works, sometimes.

Sobriety is a gift, and it requires daily maintenance of a spiritual program, sufficient to change the essential personality and behavior of the alcoholic.

Good luck and godspeed, OP

AA is a large part of why I am almost 4 years sober. Anyone who wants to stop drinking/drugging should check it out.

It's a religion for people who hate religion. The 12 steps are literally just watered-down, neutered christianity
1.Admit that youre a sinner
2.God can redeem of us of our sins
3.Surrender our lives to God
4.Identify your sins
5.Confess sins to be forgiven
6.Be ready to be forgiven
7.Ask to be forgiven
8.Identify more sins
9. Ask for more forgiveness
10.rinse and repeat.
11.Pray
12.Proselytize

Dont get me wrong, I believe in God & strive for a relationship with Him. But people in AA are generally ignorant of what they're doing, they have some pathological aversion to God and therefore need this weird faux-church. Which is cool, until they project all that garbage on me.

thing about AA is that they can vary from chapter to chapter. but according to what i have noticed and seen because my dad fucked my childhood with his alcholoism and ruined my famiily, and hes had some good runs sober but he gets stuck in it again form time to time. the problem is how they make you believe it is an eternal part of you, that you -will- fall into it again, and the only way to fix that is to attend meetins and surrender yourself to the group and be saved etc. they ae not in the business of building, but destroying

AA is for losers who can’t handle their alcohol. Imagine being such a weak bitch you can’t just stop drinking.

>admits AA doesn’t work
Okay fag

most AA's are christian groups dude

Yes I’m a weak loser who couldn’t stop using drugs and drinking
Like, I stated before. If you truly don’t want to quit, it won’t work for you.

This. Some people are jerks but remember why you there and stay focused. It heped me.

Well yeah, the whole point is to admit to being powerless over alcohol/drugs. Most AA groups are at Christian churches, and why not use those principles? AA is about identifying character defects in people and getting to manage their alcoholism.

The problem is as i mentioned in another post of mine is how they use their "treatment" methods. they demand you do this and that and to become dependent on their view and how they cope and redefine their problems in calling it a disease, its not. but there is a strong point to make that alchohol addiction fucks you up and hijacks your bodys pain and dopamine cycles. you're stressed? you need to drink and feel gooood! you have that high for an hour, then you feel like shit and the realization sets in on wht you've done, and the pain of alchohol iny our system comes, so you take more alchohol to be rid of it, have a lesser high.. then go back again and round it goes.. and they say that this is inevetable. that you must and will fall back into it because you're an alchoholic, you are not a person anymore, you're one of the many acholoics that find "salvation" in having others to share the (forced) pain and existance hat your new identity is. I know its hard and retarded to just say dont take anymore. when your sober and you feel that urge to drink. your mind tricks you to feel all those fleeting good feelings and you ignore the bad ones that WILL come if you go back.. they do not talk about that one bit. how you must think how your own bodiuly survival systems trick you. hwo you must stop it at the sourcce. not surrender to it.

Imagine believing you are completely powerless to stop at two beers after work. Fact: putting the glass down and paying your tab works 100% of the time

I didn’t care for a lot of the groups at the churches (they seemed more of a social club for old people who didn’t drink), I go to a more “agnostic” meeting and it’s good for me. There’s a few people in their late 20s-early 30s that are a bit self righteous and self centered, but overall I like the group. It helps me stay sober.

I used to casually drink eight to twelve cans of lager in a sitting. Switched to a tasty 9% alc./vol Belgian style ale brewed in the province of Quebec and get the same effect from four or five bottles. Well worth the increase in $/vol. IMO.

Good for you, you’re not an alcoholic.

All rehab no matter how expensive boils down to going to aa meetings. I have demons and have attended and been sober before. It's a language virus program, a trojan, just like religion, to reprogram your mind. It works if you willingly install the program into your mind. Religion also works but people have been turned away and laugh at god now. Theyll see soon.

Repent and spread the gospel.