How will we deal with the growing number of people who will become obsolete due to automation...

How will we deal with the growing number of people who will become obsolete due to automation? We can't give them jobs that don't exist. Taking away machines for the benefits of sup optimal humans isn't an option either.

Personally I think a heavily modified stock market is an optimal solution. Instead of companies being the sole owner of the maxhoes. People should be able to buy into automated companies so their portion of ownership can represent some of the labour done by the robots. People can then choose to use the profits their profits to buy more representation in the supply line or spend it on Jordans or some shit. Imagine a world where you can choose where your labor is represented by simply moving around where your stocks are rather than actually having a job. What do you think?

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>maxhoes

Wtf, I meant to type machines.
The fuck is a maxhoe

There will still need to be a market for the robots to exist.
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Genocide or send them to the Moon to mine Helium-3

Corona-chan will take care of them

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Robots would be waaay better mining shit on the moon than humans

A lot of work functions still require fine dextrous movements only human hands are capable of. Automation isn't quite there yet.

What is "automation" exactly?

Slave labour will always be cheaper than robots that need constant maintenance.

What slave labor? people get paid everywhere. I think in some parts of Africa slavery still exists but everyone else wants that shit to end, they make documentaries about it and everything.

Triple 3's of BTFO

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Is that from J-porn or something?

Not really sure. But let's say a big company like Amazon managed to completely automate its warehouse to the point nobody was required to be inside the warehouse during work hours that only would benefit top management and people would be out of a job. At some point measures need to be taken to make sure people can actually feed themselves

Dude, you know why "slave" labor exists in China? cause the average Chinese is okay with it cause they aren't really people. They really don't even think about it i bet, they're probably grateful they even have a job. Thanks White man!

>How will we deal with the growing number of people who will become obsolete due to automation?

Would be a shame if they died to something like a pandemic.

People are taking care of this themselves by not having kids in society where automation is wiping out jobs. But businesses still want to import millions of shitskins to lower their labor costs for a few years until the jobs they do can also be automated, at which point they get dumped onto government welfare rolls.

Dude, think about what you're saying you're telling me robots will be able to build from scratch computers?

One of the main problems with automation is automation outside of a building IMO, if it rains, if it snows , if it gets too hot outside. Oh and people won't accept it with all the big automation scare that's been going on for years, at least in The West.

Dude, "they" would fuck up so badly if they made themselves everyone's enemy cause they are the robot masters and they fucked everyone else over. Their robots can't stop billions of people.

Maybe not today. Think thirty or fifty years from now. There are experiments that prove programs can write programs and building a computer is something a child can do. I don't think it's unrealistic to assume automation will replace jobs in the near future.
The number of companies pushing self driving cars that constantly improve year after year already put the writing on the wall for taxi and truck drivers

Bruh a well designed robot with a gun could pop the skulls of a thousand violent protestors before one of them could even line up a shot on it.
To a computer a second may as well be an hour given how fast they operate.
The idea that people could out violence a death robot is laughable.

You reaaaaaaaally understimate just how big/bad this automation stuff would be, they literally CAN'T do it. Many problems with it aside from the logistics (i bet it would only be feasible in certain parts of the temperate first world). People would unironically go outside and lynch "them", That's why all the talk of the "universal basic income".

Which is scary, cause maybe that's The Beast System. "They" may demand that you go to their New Reformed Church every other day and if you don't they may shut down your credit car and where are you going to go? the only ones that can rely on their own are the underground resistance that just so happen to follow The Bible literally and believes the Earth is flat with a dome.

It's a theory.

This question has been asked for the last 100+ years of streamlining mass production.
They just keep producing more volume of junk.

There's many many problems with it not all of them technical, don't believe the hype. Even in Japan it would be hard to pull off IMO, you have harsh winters.

Think about what you're saying dude, that technology literally doesn't exist. You're saying it MIGHT exist in the future. That's all you're saying. It doesn't as of right now.

what the actual fuck are you on about lmfao?!

You guys always get ahead of yourselves and claim this or that will happen cause you've been told it will, calm down for a second and think logically about it.

Technology is literally not that impressive, you watch too many movies and animes.

>fucking metal nigger stole my job!

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There are no robots. Show me a robot, go ahead.

Think about what you're saying. You're saying it's not worth worrying about because the technical doesn't exist now and might never will. Absolutely there are technical hurdles to overcome, but I doubt extreme weather is even close to one of the biggest issues automation faces.

Humans used to do this.

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Publicly chain them naked in the doggystyle position with a tip jar and put a stick of butter up their ass.

Here's what car production lines used to look like for reference.

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The truly scary thing is the A.I.

That oh, for no reason whatsoever and is totally a coincidence that Elon Musk calls it a "demon" youtube.com/watch?v=Tzb_CSRO-0g

Extreme weather is a big fucking problem, kid. In the real world it is. You can't just have this (NON-EXISTENT BTW) robots in the middle of the Sahara desert or the Siberian tundra or even the Amazon jungle.

biological weapons will kill most humans so there will be plenty of work for the machiens then

HA! that's a warehouse with air conditioning, i bet those machines break down all the time.

So what? you're assuming EVERYTHING ELSE can be automated. It literally can't, how the fuck are robots going to build a skyscraper? robots can't build many things i bet, vehicles are vehicles.

>Automation
Damnit Sano San I told you to read your memos before making a thread. After Corona finishes it's job automation will be just a memory. We're going back fucking steam punk style. Just delete this thread and try again.

It's some korean movie about epidemy.

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I think your image of automation are terminator style robots running around doing people things like people do.

This is wrong. Maybe I'm a little at fault for posting the terminator as my op pic. In reality think car production lines. Think automated accountants. Think automated programmers, construction workers and delivery vehicles. This is not farfetche technology and as you correctly stated is powered by ai and engineering.

Construction workers are you fucking kidding me? machines can't build a skyscraper from scratch. Get real. Delivery vehicles? the technology better be perfect, people's lives are at stake.

You reaaaaally think that 1) the technology is even feasible, 2) it's even feasible to implement it. The social problems are literally insurmountable, people want to work. This is some new shit that only the sodomite elites are looking forward to, cause they don't work to begin with. This are The End Times.

Are you White?

I don't know, how did the street cleaners survived when they became obsolete?
Oh yeah, they adapted or worked in newest domains
same will happen

Granted it's not a skyscraper or even a very good building but to say robots can't one day design and build skyscrapers just shows your lack of imagination.

What is your basis for saying robots can't build building? Is it a safety concern? Building built by humans collapse all the time.

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Universal basic income.

A DEGREE of automation TO AN EXTENT is realistic IMO. To an extent, anything else and you would literally need a world AI to manage it all. Everything would have to be in synch.

Gee, sounds Beast Systemy donnit.

Yes I think the technology is feasible. I'm willing to put money on that.

Yes I think the social problems are gigantic. That's why I made the thread.

What's your job by the way? Can it be automated?

Bro, people don't want this shit only the degenerate elites do. Even if the technology might be feasible (which i don't think it is btw), so what?

Are you White?

My job? haven't you heard? i'm a shitposter for the JIDF and a CIA nigger. Prolly.

Are you fucking White yes or no?

Damn right i'm a double-o seven, bitch.

I've made my case. All you've got is burying you head in the sand.

okay, so robots can build a basic bitch squared structure. skyscrapers are never just that. they're designed for years with very specific needs. You're need to design, build and program a different robot for each skyscraper project. not to mention all of the interior work once the outer shell is put up.

I wish I could fucking live in the moment like you do and pretend things don't change and technology never advances

You are fundamentally dishonest, you won't even answer my question. Are you White? i bet you're a seditious Jap. The more fallen races are always eager to suck Satan's cock.

The ENTIRE world would have to be under the control of one AI for this behemot to work, otherwise it would just be people using more advanced machines than we have now and maybe the lower IQ people would have to get into some sort of welfare program (>implying).

This is mostly true. Automation IS there, it's just cost prohibitive for those types of operations..
>Been an engineer in automation for 16 years

>How will we deal with the growing number of people who will become obsolete due to automation? We can't give them jobs that don't exist. Taking away machines for the benefits of sup optimal humans isn't an option either.
By abolishing the private ownership of property.

Everyone has their portion of the complete industrial output.

Is this what this is about? You interpret automation to be Satan and that's why it's unfeasible and evil? Like bruh. What if your interpretation of the Bible is wrong

user, why can't they just give a UBI out at that point? If the future is so good people no longer have to slave, but can if they desire to apply for specific human jobs, why can't the country they live in simply take care of them? It's feasible.

It isn't. This shit is The Beast System from Revelations, are you a White Engrish teecha? pathetic weeabo race traitor. Gaijin go back.

Absolutely, but it kinda takes the idea of individual choice out of how much people make. I feel if we must live in that kind of world we should at least have some agency in where that money goes and how it comes back to us.

Abloo bloo bloo bloo

Fuck it, you prolly think i'm an actual CIA nigger trying to datamine you or whatever. Are you Christian? that's all i care. Japan is a godless nation, nukes aren't real but they should have nuked at least the men of the Imperial Japanese Army.

The Earth is flat with a dome.

Software or mechanical solutions to perform repetitive tasks with minimal to no human input. Take most solar panel factories in the past few years. A person drives the truck with the input and output, and inside there's only a handful of people monitoring the machinery

They already make integrated circuits with nothing but material input and a design file.

Work was performed better than a nigger, nothing was stolen

Shit breaks down, who's gonna fix it? other machines? you need the whole system to be in synch being run by a central AI. The Beast System from Revelations.Otherwise it's just people with more advanced shit similar to what we ahve now, and EVEN THAT is going to present a massive problem cause you simply can't leave most people without a job or even give them that basic income shit. White Bible believers don't want it.

This all ties into transhumanism, which is Satanic. Space isn't real, your robots are possessed by demons most likely. What is the purpose of all this marvellous new technology? to do what? give you more leisure time to rape kids?

I know you fuckers.

Should have voted Yang.

People are building all of that, don't kid yourself. That machine breaks down or fucks up a man has to go and fix it.

>Schizo poster doesn't know what automation is
>WHO WILL FEEIX DE MACHINESSS??
>inside there's only a handful of people monitoring the machinery
The fewer number of people needed inside the factory, you dumb shit.

>Schizo religious poster doesn't know how ic dies are made
People don't touch the die at all, idiot.

FACTORY? HA!

FACTORY? i'm not talking about automation inside no factories, kid. Nobody is worried about that.

I'm a store manager. Will they replace me bros... they need someone to tell the robots what to do r-right?

Migrants will also become obsolete

You asked what automation was, I told you. Not my fault you're insane.

It's better to live in the moment than constantly think of what-ifs and what-could-be and waste my life thinking about where technology will go when I'm gone.
Besides that you didn't refute what I said at all.

The machine that builds that shit breaks, who fixes it? also, who gives the machine the design? the materials? it's people.

Doubtful, machines are mostly 24/7 365 days (minus downtime for maintenance itself), any maintenance overhead is eclipsed by profitability, no wages, insurance. Completely eclipses a human taking lunches/holiday/sick, not working weekends.

Maintenance costs further and further reduced when you scale up robots and they become interchangeable with each other for a maintenance pool. Then you have robots doing the maintenance themselves on each other as well.

Sure, but that someone knows how the robots work. Better learn2code

Even if there wasn't some robot designed to repair robots are you suggesting everyone become a robot repairman?
Your argument is slowly crumbling from robots being impossible to robots needing a human to maintain them.

Whoever goes along with this automation transhumanism AI Singularity shit is marked by Satan. That's the mark mentioned in Revelation, probably will materialize in the form of whoever doesn't go along with it will be out of the system and won't have access to the virtual money.

You are the only retard assuming no human input is ever needed. A lot of machines are fixed by other machines when they break, however. How do you think the large machines are built to begin with?

maxhoe, wtf?

I think we should invent a virus that will kill off 80% of humanity. Something that starts with all the old people and then mutates to kill more people. We can synthesize a cure and keep it for those who truly deserve it, like the richest and smartest people. Let the average ball sport retard and selfie roastie burn.

This is the ultimate solution for a prosperous future for humanity.

>MUH JEEBUS!

Nooooooooooooooo

CURRENT "robots" need people to repair them. Robots literally don't exist, they are crude machines. Are you, for lack of a better word, Christian?

I think you are the beast. Because you're a faggot.

That's bullshit, somewhere at the end of that chain of machines fixing machines is a man that fixes the machine that's nessesary to fix all the other machines.

Not an argument.

The Bible didn't mention robots because they hadn't been invented yet. You need to diversify your reading material

>Robotics doesn't exist because they don't look and act like fictional autonomous beings given anthropomorphic attributes
Schizo religious posters are the worst

This is all you goddamn riceniggers fault. You fuckers and your damn robots. I finally find something that pays decently and now I'm gonna get replaced by a fucking robot.

I'm neither.

I'm going to assume you're a Pagan Jap or a White "Christian". Either way you don't believe in The Bible.

Neither is claiming the end times fairy tale is muh robots

No i don't, and Revelations has room for interpretation on purpose.

Yeah, therfore robotics are a literal meme. They are just automated hammers and shit.

Robots? it's the AI/Singularity. Robots will be a part of it of course. It's more about computers.