Guys I'm only gonna say this once, and I don't wanna sound too controversial, alright? Fossil fuels aren't gonna last forever and we need to prepare for a post oil era. Most renewable energy is just too slow to keep up with our modern day energy usage but there is one that would have no trouble at all with meeting our energy demands, would be totally clean, provide hope for the future and has a virtually limitless supply. That is nuclear power. Personally I feel like we're currently in a different timeline where we were meant to start using nuclear energy years ago but big oil got their way and we are still stuck with using their oil. And I'm pretty sure that the anti nuclear movement is a hoax pushed by big oil and by the CIA to keep the petro- dollar alive and to maintain the current, corrupt world order.
inb4 chernobyl inb4 'muh radiation cancer' because fossil fuels cause cancer too but you never seem to care about that, do you?
Honestly the only flaw I can see with our society moving towards nuclear energy is the threat of terrorists getting their hands on it but I'm sure that with modern security and with more research into how to protect ourselves against such a thing we would be able to develop a strategy to combat it and keep us secure.
>mass immigration of shitskins >Modern security Pick one.
Tyler Cox
So instead of polluting the atmosphere we fill the ground up with radioactive waste that wont be safe for 1000’s of years
Evan Hughes
we can just send it to the moon we can integrate them then stop importing them
Ryan Peterson
Yes, we can pollute the whole atmosphere, or bury the pollution under a mountain.
Anthony Campbell
You know what I don't get it, why hasn't Ireland built atleast a couple nuclear powerplants? They have seriously improved since Chernobyl and even if there is negatives, we arent in a seismically active region.. Also - The gov is really into wind farms, though the carbon cost to produce them ends up more than a nuke plant
Bentley Lewis
I think what it boils down to is 'we just aren't big enough'
Camden Edwards
There are many alternatives and the initial price is insane. Yet it is still a good choice despite being constantly hijacked by hook nosed faggots.
Nathaniel Hughes
Uranium is a fossil fuel though. It's back when god still shat on earth during his 7 days here. He shits a lot because he's big obviously. The thing some call "radiation" is in reality his love penetrating every inch of your membrane.
Isaiah Wilson
Absolutely, but I can't see how we can expect nuclear progress to be made unless we actually set up a couple of them to see what works and what doesn't
Cameron Taylor
A modern concentrated solar power plant or tidal power produces 500 MW with reasonable costs to build and "free" fuel. A gen. IV nuclear plant outputs about 1600 MW and costs 10 times more plus maintenance and having to buy uranium. Wind power is shit and the carbon panic is nonsense for normie scum.
Joshua Long
Nuclear power is the only way until we can take advantage of fusion power. Renewables are not always available, need big investments/space while energy storage is a pain in the ass. We need sto fund fusion energy and stop feeding niggers and shitskins
Nathan Cruz
Some crowd tried building one in wales in the 70s or something but they planned on putting the waste literally into the Irish ocean down by Wexford so they ended up shutting it down
Dylan Morgan
>waste It's actually valuable fuel, but we haven't figured how to use the remnants of it yet.
Matthew Cox
Thorium is a great alternative to uranium and it's much cleaner and cheaper and produces more. I know it's been the 'energy of the future' for a while now but I think it's going to catch on soon.
Julian Parker
Bro do you realize solar power is PEAK power, which you will almost never have, right? Also dollar panels are polluting as fuck to produce and to dispose of, and have a pretty shitty life time
Charles Sanchez
Were's one fossil fuel we can yet exploit, Helium-3. The ony problem for now is that it's on Luna. I'm guessing it will also boost our space technology.
Ryan Reyes
Solar can't into base load you silly monkey.
Gabriel Hall
>inb4 Chernobyl Thats not an argument. One accident raises the global background radiation levels. There is still a body in the fucking reactor corridors because it cannot be moved.
You need to gas the kikes and their minions first, any small advancement triggers them.
Storage can be done in many reasonable ways (no retarded batteries) and you can set up a decentralized power grid with generators, high output wind, solar and hydro, waste heat, trash decomposition, ... so in the average you always have enough energy. You can even go off-grid like this.
Caleb Roberts
>Fossil fuels aren't gonna last forever Neither will Uranium...
Joseph Lewis
Let's tank about the hundred thousand people a year that die because of pollution
Brody Collins
Learn to use a search engine and stop being gay.
Samuel Ward
So just don't let crazy drunken Slavs run experiments on your 1950s reactor.
Noah Morales
Base Load
Ethan Wood
the quantity we are talking are ridicule because there is an energy density difference of a factor 1,000,000+ compared to oil.
Aiden Kelly
Learn to life retard
William Gonzalez
Kill yourself, fucking subhuman retard:
Gavin Peterson
Learn to commit suicide, low IQ human trash.
Elijah Richardson
So where's the base load?
Evan Clark
Ill talk about pollution when others talk about climategate email memory hole aka never
Fukushima ring a bell? Those were GE.
Camden Lee
Not my fault if you can't manage to have a solid view about energy production and distribution
Brandon Barnes
Integration is a myth. Never happens. People only integrate by programs that force people to mix wihich each like schools as example. One outside people will always go back to their own kind.
William Bailey
So just don't build it on an earth quake/tsunami hotzone.
Jaxon Davis
Use a capacitor bank smartass
Thomas Hughes
> Neither will Uranium... Thorium will, though
Jason Adams
>accident That was no accident that was total retardation. They literally shut down any safeties and then cranked up to eleven.
Easton White
>So instead of polluting the atmosphere we fill the ground up with radioactive waste...
I don’t think you understand just how little highly radioactive waste a nuclear plant actually produces when measured by its volume. (pic related) You could stack all the spent nuclear fuel that has ever been produced by the US commercial nuclear reactor fleet (by far the largest in the world) on a football field and the pile would barely reach 20 feet in height.
Ok so add that cost to the cost of the solar farm and then tell me how long the capacitors hold charge when the sun isn't shining.
Juan Reed
You are fucking delusional if you think you can "capacitor bank" a steel factory.
Alexander James
Nuclear is GOAT. I want to have nuclear power plants literally everywhere powering literally everything. Suck my ass doomsdayists, oil kikes, solarcucks and (((big coal))) shills.
Jonathan Harris
2 problems here : - first the power in renewable energy plant, is MAX power , not real power. In wind plant it's on average only 5% (can be easily checked) of that number, I think it's a bit higher for solar plants but not sure.
- second the real difficulty in running a power grid is to have the same production and consumption at every moment in time. To that you need pilotable energy sources, witch wind and solar are not.
So if you want more solar and wind energy you need a lot more pilotable energy, and there are currently 2 real options , fossil fuels or nuclear (hydro also but cant be build everywhere)
Christian Nelson
And i dont think you understand just how long it takes before radioactive isotopes are no longer a threat. Not to mention erosion, earthquakes and other factors that could lead to a breach in containment and devastate the local environment.
Landon Adams
i think the best solution is to put those mirrors that heat up a tower with a turbine inside of it. it's not a complex technology, its all about redirecting the sunrays using mirrors to a heat up a fluid and run a turbine with the heated fluid. it also continues the produce electricity after sun set. i dont know if its propaganda or not, but i have read that if they put those in like a small amount of the sahara desert surface, it could power most of the world. is it true, and if yes, why is no one doing it ? it sounds much cheaper than photovoltaic, it's very very clean and cheap, and easy to maintain...
Nolan Mitchell
Risk 0 doesn't exist, you just do a balance between risks and feasibility (costs).
James Young
>whataboutism
Christian Gutierrez
>Thats not an argument. One accident raises the global background radiation levels. Chernobyl’s contribution to background radiation level is absolutely tiny and outside of Europe it is basically 0.
Nigga pol is pro nuclear. Gen IV is our torch out of the darkness
Gavin Hill
It's 500 MW peak at 1/10 of the price without solar panels you fucking homosexual jewish imbecile. I never said it could replace a nuclear power plant alone.
Parker Ward
>It went up .3 worldwide 0.3 what? apples?
Jaxson Adams
This is low, even for you Yas Forums. Kicking oil like this when it's down due to a literal recession looming thanks to Saudi.
What is energy storage and an average again, inbred demented soulless meat drone?
Carter Jackson
There are no flaws in the nuclear energy. >Quran educated terrorists attack a nuclear power station >They lift a used fuel rod from the cooling pond >Allahu Akhbar! >Terrorists get gravely ill in minutes and are completely incapacitated after few hours of voluntary radiation treatment from the white mans invention >Case closed
Josiah Gonzalez
>Not to mention erosion, earthquakes and other factors that could lead to a breach in containment and devastate the local environment. And who is building nuclear waste repositories or intermediate storage facilities in such places?
When we talk about integration what we're really talking about is telling them to shut up and know their place and then closing our borders for good. So I'm all for 'integration'
Benjamin Scott
Go on then, by what mechanism are you storing the energy and why didn't you add that cost into your original price comparison?
James Morales
Ok so add that to the price of solar and you'll soon realise why nuclear is the best option.
Isaiah Jones
It's incredible how the extinction rebellion people haven't embraced as the 'it may not be perfect but it would totally end carbon emissions' solution to their problems. They must be either retarded or infiltrated.
Jace Gutierrez
Powerful fossil fuel lobbies that infiltrated environmentalist movements are doing their best to destroy the nuclear sector.
Hunter White
>raises the background radiation. Wowsers. Be carefull! Radiation! Oh wait. A banana is more radioactive then background better stay away!
Jason Sanchez
IN THE 1950S THE NAVY INVENTED NUCLEAR VOLTAICS, THERE'S NO ENERGY SHORTAGE JUST FAGGOTS WHO WANT TO KEEP DRILLING INTO THE EARTH FOR DIGESTED SOULS IE CRUDE OIL.
The media didn't tell them to consider nuclear so they didn't.
Brayden Brooks
Pump toxic stuff into the air where i no longer have control of them vs put the toxic stuff in a sealed bunker where no one in our lifetime will ever reach them.
Jaxson Lee
>Thorium is an argument. until we find out we've done something fucked up there too. however, it does seem these have features that make them safer in ways. > we arent in a seismically active region everyone on earth is in a seismically active region, it's a matter of time scale. of note in your idiocy, modern coal cleaning brings us gypsum. oh hell no it's not. it's valid to not set your house on fire because you want to change the air temp. you're equating real risk of permanent harm with attempting to one up, by one-upping a non-sequitor. shame on you. everyone. geologic time scale isn't something we predict well. >A banana is more radioactive then background Except we're not talking about background, we're talking about everyone's back yard. The no-entry zone in Belarus/Ukraine continues to have pockets where humans would grow cancers in months, or die of poisoning in days. The Japanese are still facing massive no-go zones. The result to their fishing isn't even begun to be seen.
William Taylor
>no one in our lifetime 20,000 years. Sure, fuck them, they're only our future and the reason you want power in the first place.
Asher Perez
If it's in the ground, it's localized, while if it's in the air, it's externalized. Leftists will never support replacing delocalized pollution with localized pollution, because without delocalized problems, they cannot make a case for global government. The right could support nuclear in principle, but the current right wing establishment are faggots who will either refuse to contend with the left on environmental matters at all, or will just cuck to big oil. When the debate is reorganized as: >Assuming some amount of pollution is unavoidable >Should that amount be as localized or delocalized as possible? Then both the left and establishment right are on the same side.
Hudson Johnson
So rather then having x miles of area you cant visit beause maybe radiation could leak out. you would prefer it if we keep dumping co2, CH4, Co into the air for the next 20.000 years
Logan Scott
>put the toxic stuff in a sealed bunker where no one in our lifetime will ever reach them That's precisely the argument they use against nuclear power: future generations will either forget where we burried stuff or won't have the means to take care of those places.
Well considering future generations here will be niggers that's pretty much a certainty. On the other hand why should I care about what happens to them?
Jack Ross
Fossil fuels aren't running out They aren't going to run out in your lifetime They aren't going to run out in your children or grandchildren's lifetimes either Fossil Fuels are incredibly common The only ones running out are the easiest to find, and cheapest to extract and refine types We have barely scratched the surface of this incredibly abundant resource
Nathan Hall
>i'm freshmen, i straw man bother.
Kevin Bailey
As if we wouldn't figure what the fuck to do with that shit in 20000 years? We'll probably figure out what to do with nuclear waste in 20000 days.
Jaxson Smith
Nuclear safety has come a long way bro, not that civilized countries like US, UK and France ever had a problem in the first place.
Jason Cruz
The Japanese culture does not work well with certain things. They have had safety problems with other reactors because workers did not challenge management. Fukushima, though is nothing close to the scale of Chernobyl. The cores are still in the concrete containment structure, if I remember right.
John Ross
Poor Greta Thunderberg she's a victim of her marxist parents.