Why the fuck are transgender rights so volatile right now?

What's wrong with just wanted to be treated like a normal human being?

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you know thats not where the discussion is at you dishonest fuck

Cum on my bifocals

Because you are anything but human.

Trannies are not normal human beings, obviously.

What makes me dishonest? I know that as a nonbinary woman, I'm not your favorite person but I don't see what the problem is.

Okay, let me lay out some points:

1) Children under 18 shouldn't be allowed to transition. I'm not sure puberty blockers are ethical.
2) I'm not sure if it should be covered by medicare or not, but I'm not in a position of power to change that.
3) I am aware changing my pronouns does not change my biology.
4) How do cartoons with transgender threaten your worldview in any way? Why are they automatically bad? Why are some people trying to censor them?
5) How can acceptance and transgender protection laws actually hurt us?

I don't have a dick. See point 3.

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Have sex trancel

Transgenderism is a mental illness. If you want to be treated like a normal person, act like a normal person. Born with a dick:? You're a dude. Born with vagoo, you're a chick. Stop mutilating yourselves.

Steven Universe is the most immoral Sodomite show ever created for kids

Because somehow wanting laws to be passed so they could change their name on their divers' license morphed into "LET US TWERK IN FRONT OF YOUR CHILDREN AT PUBLIC LIBRARIES WITH DILDOS FLOPPING OUT OF OUR ASS" once the Jews and freaks saw an opportunity to exploit.

Agreed.

Disagreed.

I have a boyfriend and a happy sex life, thanks for asking. Are you an incel or something?

How is it mutilation? Humor me.

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... Oh.

Well, obviously that behavior is unacceptable from a man, a woman, an enby or a trans person. Right?

I don't think it's some kind of weird Jewish conspiracy. Do you have some evidence to back up this weird tangent?

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If you want to be treated like a normal human being, you have to act like a normal human beings. Trannies are, by the most benevolent definition, not normal. The whole purpose of being a tranny is the attempt at the ultimate lifehack of getting things you couldn't get otherwise by mimicking a demographic you percieve to have privilege.

Just for that, I'm posting another SU pic.

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Steven Universe fags are pedos too, doesnt surprise me one bit

Go start your treatments so you'll be on the 41% express.
You never just wanted to be treated like a person. You want attention. Plain and simple. If it were just about treatment then you would've shut the fuck up and left us all alone but you didnt and now you all have to hang

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>chopping off your genitals
>sewing new ones on
>LOL HOW IS IT MUTILATION?!?!
You're sick. Seek help, or kill yourself..

>How is it mutilation? Humor me.

This shit is why people hate you. This dishonest shilling right here. You KNOW how it's mutilation to chop off your dick to pretend to be a woman. You KNOW how it's mutilation to chop off your tits and get thighskin turned into a flaccid sausage that you pretend is a dick. You know. And your sophistic bullshit is insufferable and infuriating. And you know that too.

Ask me how I know your father was absent or an addict.

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Um, what if it's just a fetish? I'm going to massively powerlevel here, as Kiwi Farms would say. My internal voice has ALWAYS been male. I have had gender dysphoria since I was 6 or so. I'm bisexual and I just wish I had a dick. A strap-on is a poor imitation. I am a poor imitation of myself, like a stranger to myself. My psychologist already diagnosed me with the dysphoria and my gynecologist refused my wishes to sterilize myself saying "you might change your mind."

Well, I'm 33 and I sure fucking haven't. I can't imagine anything more horrible than pregnancy. Literally my worst nightmare come to life.

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T won't make me taller but it sure as hell will make me stronger. What are the downsides here? Be honest, I want to be informed. I came to Yas Forums to give it to me straight.

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>I'm not sure puberty blockers are ethical.
>not sure
>ethical
>unsure about destroying a young human being's life for-fucking-ever

People like you should be studied, your DNA mapped, and every fetus analyzed for your genetic anomalies and destroyed if any of these match.

Well, I'm an artist, of course I want attention. But I don't necessarily want YOUR attentinon or dick.

I want ZONE's attention and my boyfriend's primarily, with tertiaries being Tiarawhy, Faust and Rebecca Sugar.

What's wrong with just wanted to be treated like a normal human being?
>Take hormones to grow artificial tits.
>Chop off balls and invert dick.
>Laser natural hair off tits and inside of your fauxgina.
>Change name and demand everyone use "preferred pronouns"
>Demand everyone pretend you're a women when you are a broad shouldered man with a crackling voice.
>Make up new pronouns because not even you think you are a real girl
>Kill yourself at rates higher than prisoners in Japanese medical experiment camps
Just like a normal human being.

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what youve laid out in those points are entirely different to just being treated as 'normal'

puberty blockers are child experimentation and should be labelled as such

im not american so i dont have a say on what happens with medicare

a lot of people outside of yourself are tied up in the pronoun game

im entirely in the position of artistic freedom, an artist should be able to do what they want outside of hurting others during the creation/production of said art (example: literally killing someone for a murder scene in a movie, or a more realistic example: game developers being treated essentially as slave workers)

in theory they seem nothing but positive (to most people), but in reality it infringes upon speech rights and rights to exclusion

>Not normal
>Wants to be treated normal

The process of trans surgery female to male involvea removing flesh from an arm or leg and surgically attaching the rolled up flesh to the vagina with some inside work done as well.
If having a hairy hotdog as a dong isn't barbaric mutilation then I dont know what is.
And don't get me started on male to female

I see. I agree with you, the technology isn't there yet. If it was, would you change your opinion? I think it's weird to call it "shilling" ... I'm not paid for this. I came here because I had hoped to get some answers, desu f a m

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Time you all die kike shill tranny wrongs and shit

Well, you're right. My father died when I was 7 and he was an addict.

Do you have a bingo card you're filling? Post it.

> 1) Children under 18 shouldn't be allowed to transition. I'm not sure puberty blockers are ethical.
Allowing children to make such life altering decisions is unethical. Puberty blockers stunt normal brain development among other things.
> 2) I'm not sure if it should be covered by medicare or not, but I'm not in a position of power to change that.
There is no evidence that transition reduces the suicide rate of transgender people, therefore it is NOT a cure for the problem. I am in favor of getting these people mental help, not supporting their delusions.
> 3) I am aware changing my pronouns does not change my biology.
Why change your pronouns?
> 4) How do cartoons with transgender threaten your worldview in any way? Why are they automatically bad? Why are some people trying to censor them?
Transgender people are mentally ill and in need of help. Pretending transition is a useful solution for them is not something I support.
> 5) How can acceptance and transgender protection laws actually hurt us?
Yes. State enforcement of personal pronouns sets a dangerous precedent that the government can legislate what you’re allowed to say, effectively destroying free speech. Also gives trannies legal power over others, making them a special class.

My bifocals need cummies

Burn in hell idpol metzitzah shill

So you're mutilating yourself so some some degenerates on the internet and in animation will pay attention to you?
You deserve to die

>tripfagging
>tranny
>weird animated art of “cute” trannies when in reality is a man in dress
oh yeah it’s all coming together

Youre a kike fucking shill , catch and flay them folks

Play pokemon jew lamp edition

This is actually a really interesting image. I like how they circled stop lying to children.

I really, really, really don't like transgender people telling kids to transition. It doesn't sit well with me. It feels incredibly disingenuous. It would be nice to unpack that more.

Basically this.

At least it's not like others that believe a child should transition, but can't consent.

>another American

You're from Georgia or Alabama, aren't you?

But they aren't normal human beings.

You're not obsessed with having a dick. You're incapable of accepting that there are things you can't have. The dick represents the thing you can't have. It's narcissism and entitlement on your part. You think reality itself should change so you won't feel left out or deprived.

The technology won't be there. You convince itself it will so you can cling to your narcissistic and entitled fantasy instead of living in the real world. That's the thing about trannies. You are ALL narcissists to a clinical degree. Only antipsychotics or regular beatings can help you with that.

You're already a human. I'm sorry you've been brainwashed by some bastardized enlightenment ideals. But, honestly nothing here will bring you salvation. You are helpless as I hold witness to your posts; the use of children's cartoons in political discussion is a show of immaturity and a mind devoid of philosophical training. You are better off living in your putrid territory of discord with your comrades. You will gain nothing from being here. You are a worm and a vermin. Child. You pervert my beautiful English language.

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You are treated like a normal human being, do you think normal people are treated with respect?

>act fucking crazy
>expect normals to play along
Kill yourself tripfag

the technology will eventually be there, whether you like it not (providing society doesnt collapse anytime soon). its a natural progression of a hyper consumerist society, and an extension of cosmetic surgery

Yeah, you seem like the first person finally speaking my language in this thread.

So we shouldn't experiment on children with risky drugs and surgeries. It's ethically wrong.

You can't change some things about yourself, no matter how hard you try.

Hormones are, at best, a stopgap solution and not a "real" change and neither is surgical options. (especially when bras and binders and wigs exist)

Medicare is like a socialism safety net for expensive medical conditions. For instance, I was premature and it took a quarter of a million dollars to keep me alive in 1986. A bunch of people will say I should have died then, but they're fucking liars and insecure nigger faggots on Yas Forums

So Medicare covering an "optional" surgery like laser eye correction or a non-emergency breast removal totally makes sense.

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> Be man in his 40's
> Have beard
> Put on a dress
> Use the woman's bathroom

"REEEEE, I BELONG HERE, I AM FEMALE BBQWTFLGBRAAP"

you are abnormal and wish everyone around you pretend that you arent an abomination

>nonbinary woman
>nonbinary
>WOMAN

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We live in a society
and you can't expect the entirety to play along with this charade

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Reminder to call all jews Metzitzah B'peh. It drives them insane and can never be banned for hate speech. Also if normies look it up they will see it's when rabbis suck baby dicks.

>5) How can acceptance and transgender protection laws actually hurt us?
excessive special "corrective" protections afforded to trannies neglects the F A C T that they are frequently comorbid with mental illness and have sexual tendencies that vary between abnormal at best and predatory at worst. providing them a special protected status society will not change the fact that most people, and especially people with children, do not want anything that increases the likelihood of exposing themselves or their family to sexually and mentally aberrant people more than they absolutely have to.

>he dick represents the thing you can't have. It's narcissism

Interesting point, I'm prepared to concede this. Mind going into this one a little more?

So kind of like ... an Electra complex or literal penis envy? And you're saying if I changed that about myself, it would just switch to some other unobtainable thing instead.

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>I can't defend my retarded fetishism and sadomasochism
> I'll call him a country bumpkin
The rope. Now.

>feeding the tranny
you faggots know better

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Learn to speak English properly, angry Google Translate ESL user.

Do they speak English where you come from?

They’re not normal humans; they’re faggot freaks who will burn in Hell.

what the fuck is an idpol metza-whatever?

FUCK YOU PIG! Analytic shit mind. Slice and dice my language, I would slap you in real life and you would like it.

> Children under 18 shouldn't be allowed to transition. I'm not sure puberty blockers are ethical.

What are you? I thought gender theory proclaims a spectrum of non-quantifiable differentials. How can you even transition? If transitioning is merely a matter of the physical why use abstraction to invent a gender identity? What the fuck is the point? There is never a transition because none of this shit exists. You need to understand.

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> demanding society to play along

lol

Well, those are some very strong feelings. Why are you blaming Discord and not Twitter or Reddit or some other popular website like Facebook or Quora, user?

Ah, like pottery.

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Post tits and ass

hell doesn't exist
nigger

Go see a shrink before you commit suicide

This is actually a really good post right here, like /thread material.

Normal people aren't treated with respect. Lookism is a thing. If you are fat or short or tall or skinny, you'll be bullied and teased relentlessly.

I think we're coming to an answer to the "why."

I don’t hate you for being wanting to be treated normal I hate you for jeopardizing humanity. Transgenders are by far the worst of the LGBT.

I.S.H