Could we say that the medieval age presents the evolution of the celtic and germanic armies from bands of warriors to professional armies?
Medieval armies
germanic armies were just the copy of late roman army, in terms of equipment and fight style, in the terms of strategy and logistic were nigger-tier, but whites were niggers 1500 years ago.
Based. Northern Europeans were appropriating Med innovation up until about 1500.
they have always been niggers
Germanic warriors copied the hun tactics of cavalry (and technology) too, btw romans copied the greek and celtic tactics and equipment so such am irony to see italians talking about how germans copied other armies
everybody copied everybody
Romans already had professional armies long before then along with a rather complex military structure that we still somewhat inherit some functions from.
Yup
Even the first kings of the tribes would gain their claim to power by inheriting some legacy of the roman empire, often a title. Everyone coat tailed on the romans to try and gain legitimacy.
Except the Romans were Nordic, every single one of them. You ugly, swarthy, arab-berber mutt bastard have NOTHING to do with the ancient Romans, no relations whatsoever. They are our direct ancestors.
We were the Romans.
Dude stop please
and this coming from niggers of Europe who are spreading and dying faster coronavirus than Chinese, do you niggers have working hospitals at all?
Learn to wash your hands fucking lightbrown niggers
>STOP PLEASE NOOO!
>believing this
we know he isnt an actual swede
our mission is to kill all of you, wich is why we won't wash our hands
In essence yes, I mean the basics has been something like that since a long time, mail+shields, adapted by time and circumstances, even Romans largely used the hamata, with the segmentata being quite expensive and difficult to maintain. Medieval armies were knightly armies too, so swords and lances were also derived for such purpose and did not come from the style of heavy infantry.
ironically the opposite is true, as they began facing more and more barbarians, it's the Romans who adapted their armies accordingly to fight in the style of barbarians, as the standard legions of the principate weren't working well anymore
poor resentful shitskin with a chip on his shoulder
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I didn't wanted to start a D&C war thread but looks like it was inevitable...
I really hope that you are from Northern Italy because otherwise this would be a pretty ironic joke with all that Arabian and Turkic DNA you guys have.
But the Nords are "niggers of europe" if they do it and the Romans are glorious warriors. Hypocrite.
>Political legitimacy = army tactics
This is your brain on burger education
Cope.
Romans copied Celtic metal working, both armour (Helmet style and chainmail) and weapons (swords)
Stop we wuzzing
Get those facts outta here. The pastaboy is busy LARPing as a Roman. How dare you ruin this for him?
More cope
Why germs have always cuckhold fantasies ?
Yes. Romans copied everything from everywhere. Starting with the Greeks and then Carthiginians. Everyone who believes that Romans actually invented a single thing is with 100% certainty a LARPing pastaboy.
I don't even know how you got there.
Quit projecting.
Just shut up retard, I can't be assed to spoon-feed you hundreds of years of development through a variety of realms and people's
The medieval ages didn't really have professional armies, unless you consider mercenaries (which have always existed and been used) they sprung up in the modern era, before them it was the Romans
You do see some semi professionalism appear it select groups, but it depends on the people/realm/lord doesn't it
14th century England use of knights and a huge portion peasant longbowmen who had to train year round with their weapon, and were payed a good wage upon employment (enough to well outfit themselves in little time)
But this is not a professional force, again in this day all you've got is mercenaries
Nothing about these two look similar. Different forehead, brow, hair, nose, chin, lips, eyeshape, and cheekbones are all very different
I only see that shit here in 4chin. Real life italians aren't like that at all.
>We will never get to see Roman empire fighter jets and spaceships because the Germ*ns are genetically prone to ruining Europe periodically
Southern italians are more greeks than anything else, you know, 2000 years of greek colonization, inmigration and rule
Not anymore. Remember this dude called Mussolini?
>Be Roman
>Recruit germans into armies
>Don't pay them
>Treat them like shit
>Let loads more Germans into your empire
>Don't disarm them
>Try to get them killed
>Still don't pay taxes for dirty Germans in your army
>Let everyone in fuck it
>Oh and fuck any good emperor we get let's kill them
>Let's lose a bunch of wars too
>And split in half, poor west and rich east
>Wtf why are we collapsing damn germans?!?!
You do know that the late Roman army was made up of Germanic mercenaries, right?
>Nothing was invented by Rome
The absolute state of Germans
And yet those whites were still 500x more advanced than any nigger will be. Go listen to rap.
Bullshit. Magna Graecia was conquered by Rome in the 200's BC. So it was ruled by Greeks for about 600 years.
Tell me then, what did the Romans invent?
All good white races invent things can we not bicker like niggers, really it's like two niggers auguring over which nigger ball team is better
the whole "Greek" colonization of Italy should be contextualized, especially because after Alexander, Greek speakers where everywhere, from the mother country all the way to the middle east
Juvenal in his telling satire, when describing the "Greek" dregs of Rome, the "Graeculi" aka little Greeks(which was an insult), he adds something like "but how many of them are true Greeks?"
maybe 1000 years from now when people are going to look back to USA in the year 2000s, thet are going to read that "Hispanics" were migrating into it, and are going to conclude that USA was full of Spaniards
The people was still the same and Roman's culturally were assimilated into greek culture, after the fall of Rome, the south of Greece was a byzantine region (Greek) during a lot of centuries and was the most rich area before French and spaniards rulers ruined it.
I see your point. It was a grave miscalculation to trust Germans could be civilized and honorable to their Roman benefactors who shielded them from Hun invasions.
What did they invent then?
All they had was stolen from Greeks, Carthiginians, Celts, Iberians, Germanics.
You might argue that they are the ones who brought the menace that is christianity over us.
But besides that? They are famous for destroying some of the most important factors of civilization during their time, like the library of Alexandria or the city Carthage.
They enslaved tones of European peoples. Your ancestors.
Literally fuck all. Their only claim to fame is they lived in a region set on easy mode and conquered small tribes one at a time. And even then they lost look at the Scots there is a reason the fucking Romans built a giant ass wall (called Hadrian's wall, Google it pasta niggers who don't believe me) to keep the Scots away. The faggot medcucks couldn't handle the Scots fighting back unlike most others they had fought up untill then. How well did their invasion of Ireland go again? Oh wait I'll answer that they failed super fucking hard, how about northern Germany oh wait yeah another fucking failure. Imagine a giant fucking army against small fractured tribes/kingdoms who lived fucking forever away from each other over treacherous terrain so they can't group in sizable numbers. AND THEN THEY LOST, they fucking lost. Pastaniggers never learn do they
Tldr:fuck Rome and fuck Italia
are we we wuzzing again?
I wish; but there are simply too many to list.
The Eternal Italian Strikes Again
lmao, this is some serious cope. The wall was built to keep the Picts/Scots out because there was nothing of value to the Romans in Scotland and keeping blue Mexicans out of Roman Britain is just obvious good sense.
The Huns were gone at this point mister burger education.
The roman innovations came on architecture and engineering, btw romans expanded greek culture around the ancient world
Name one.
10/10 post
And military organization, despite they copied, they innovated on the organization of their army
You don't know what you're on about mate, you know a tiny segment of history and base everything you know off of that, because you're a brainlet
The Romans fucked themselves over more than anyone fucked them, there is a huge list of contributing factors to the total failure of the Roman, and then especially the western Roman state until it's collapse, it is anything but a singular event
They were fucked since they failed their golden shining emperor
SOL INVICTUS you fucking traitor christfag destroyer of ROMA
And I forget the most important, roman law, the roman legislation had a massive impact around the world
Burger education.
What about the limes wall? Which the Romans built after they realized they couldn't conquer the Germanic tribes? Which they defenitely tried just as with the Scots.
Yeah, afteryears of Hunnic invasions drove Germans en masse into Roman territory, where the Romans allowed them to live instead of die like the dirty forest niggers they were. And of course the Germs didn't assimilate and thought they could do better. Of course they did.
The Germans were always trying to get into Rome. They had been illegally migrating into Roman territories all throughout the republican and imperial periods.
The Germanic insecurity about your ignoble past as dirty grub eating peasant savages is pathetic.
>The medieval ages didn't really have professional armies
they didn't have standing armies, but the warrior class was certainly professional.
Then why did the Romans retreat in defeat after losing both Scotland and Ireland and northern Gaul, oh wait I know because they actually had people fighting back not enslaving and slaughtering farmers. Stay mad medshit have fun with your brown eyes and dark skin
Expanding Green culture is not a Roman invention, only more proof how the Romans were nothing on their own.
Germ*nic pilpul. When the smoke cleared it was German scum standing on the ruins of the western empire, and not anybody else.
maybe they didn't invent much that came out of nowhere, but that almost never happens really, especially in the pre modern world; they certainly did much regarding buildings/architecture, their bridges, roads, engineering in general; even navies for instance, they were so mediterranean in origins ( xD ) that they had basically no clue about navigation, so they took the Carthaginian design 1to1, added a large beak to it to be able to lock enemy vessels in place, and with this little innovation kicked the biggest naval power's asses
needless to say, ancients weren't like modern burgmen obsessed with shining little tech innovation, that usually happens in a later stages, Greeks didn't invent much either between 1500BC and 600BC
the biggest contribution of Latins were really about statehood and law
I've been saying this whole time it was a good policy to keep Germans out of Rome. They should have stuck with it through the Hunnic invasions.