The land (including the Western Cape and Cape of Good Hope) was inhabited by the San and Khoi peoples for thousands of years before whites came. Also, genetic and linguistic evidence shows thats Bantu peoples had arrived as early as 200 B.C. So, Yas Forums, if you agree that every race needs a safe space, why don't the whites in South Africa leave?
Do whites belong in South Africa?
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South Africa was inhabited by literally no one until whites came then build civilization then blacks came and killed off whites.
Of course they do. They actually improved the area, and built the only thriving society to ever exist south of the Sahara.
Win a war, its yours. So yes they do. Just like whites belong in the USA. WE WRECKED those pesky natives.
Lets be real, niggers arenseriously useless unless its slave labor.
100% accurate blacks just showed up after stuff was already built.
It was sparsely populated, all the cities and economic activity there was created by whites. The whole reason the black population exploded was because of innovations by whites, the blacks there are entitled to nothing. Oh and there are barely any whites there left, there are more niggers in my state than whites in all of Africa not just SA
SAGE
So the only way that the blacks can get the land back is if they exterminate the whites?
Based. How could the wh*Te devils be so
racist as to have pic related
yes and I wish they would get their shit together and give it a try
Will happen soon. You guys will get destroyed because you are less than 8% of the populace. And don't expect help from other countries.
> linguistic "evidence"
South Africa was built by and belongs to Whites. Blacks infest and white-ant civilization, rotting it from the inside. Blacks have to bugger off back to the jungles.
>you're going to get destroyed
lmao k
Oooh wow 2000 years ago. I totally can understand the Boers getting ethnically cleansed by the black tribes now. Thanks for this earthshaking revelation.
They built the cape from nothing at the same time New England was being settled.
Should my volk also give the injuns the lamd back?
Whites don't belong there, they weren't invited. You came and slaughtered the natives and you wonder why they hate you. You guys are already losing.
Yes and Rhodesia too
Most Boers came as economic migrants in the late 1800’s and 1900’s. The native people are a small portion of SA’s population. The situation there would be like if Mexican’s in America took over the South West.
Meant Bantu’s not Boers
You're still not answering, why should whites have any right to claim South Africa?
Why should they have any claim to the U.S., Canada, New Zealand, or Australia?
Blacks can go back to the Congo.
Whites left most of Africa and still Africans follow whites all to way to fucking Finland and Iceland. Giving up land has not rewarded whites with respect but instead removed the outer dykes against the flood. It seems to me nobody but whites really gives a shit about who "belongs where" and whining about it is just an excuse to get access to white people and their assets.
People should have a right to where their people are and where they were born.
No. Multiculturalism brings nothing but trouble. Not even bantus belong there.
>. You came and slaughtered the natives
Which natives did we slaughter? Be specific.
The Khoisan don't really exist anymore, there are maybe a couple of tens of thousands and they're heavily mixed. They were wiped out by smallpox.
>inb4 but whites killed with disease
The outbreak of smallpox that nearly killed them out killed a quarter of the white population at the same time.
Because we settled land that had been mostly uninhabited for all of human history. The Bantu settled the east coast, they couldn't move inland because the didn't have the resources to expand that far, they were cattle grazers, a lot of South Africa is arid and very inhospitable. They didn't have the agricultural technology to expand further than the coast. The Khoisan don't exist any more. You can't show me Bantu habitation of places like Kimberly, Uppington or the Karoo that predates white settlement.
The Boer republics were founded and settled by whites, the farmland was built by whites working hard for centuries.
no whites must leave
The khoisan and bantu people were in South Africa before whites. I'm not going to even argue this as there is tons of proof online. This proves that you have no historical right to the land. Boers are theives and should return to their rightful homeland in Europe.
And they promptly destroy the infrastructure
Europe doesn’t want them. They are not European, they are Africans and have been for 400 years.
The Bantu Migration brought Bantu people to the Western Cape circa 200 A.D. This is long before any whites came to Africa.
>The khoisan and bantu people were in South Africa before whites
Do you have trouble with reading comprehension? Are you illiterate? South Africa as a single nation, as one country is a British creation. The Bantu had never settled inland in any significant numbers, they were on the east coast for centuries. Then you have the Khoi who were on the west coast who were wiped out as a nation by disease.
Now, try to understand, South Africa is larger than Germany, Poland, Netherlands, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovakia, Austria and Czech Republic combined. South Africa is really, really big. So the Bantus on the east coast were as far away from the west coast they never ever inhabited as Lithuania is from Belgium. It's an insane distance away.
Same in reverse for the Khoi. Now, you have a whole bunch of land in between that was settled by whites and only whites. I don't want "south africa". Let the Zulu have Natal as their homeland, let the Sotho have Limpopo, let the Xhosa have half the Eastern Cape, let the Tswana get the North West Province.
The Orange Free State and some Transvaal land from the old republics and some of the Northern Cape is all whites need. That's land we rightfully settled. I don't want "South Africa"
>brought Bantu people to the Western Cape circa 200 A.D
Citation needed.
Also, take off your memeflag. Stop being a coward, you always hide behind a memeflag when you make these threads.
No. However small the numbers may be, blacks inhabited the land before you whites came. It's like if one went to a tiny piece of land no one had ever walked on and used it as justification for owning the entire country. You have your homeland, let the blacks have theirs, however inferior they may be.
So? Let them have their country, however shitty it may be.
In a thousand years they'll all be black, baked by the sun
will they ever recover
Because we conquered it.
Are you a nigger?
>to a tiny piece of land
We're talking about land larger than Germany being uninhabited and unsettled. We didn't just show up and claim a "tiny piece of land". You're being incredibly disingenuous.
>for owning the entire country
We're not claiming the entire country you fuckwit. We never did. After Boers took back control of the country from the British in the 50's, we made the Bantustans, the historic areas blacks inhabited, somewhat autonomous. They had their own tribal leaders, they were armed with modern weaponry to provide security for themselves, then in the late 60's into the '70's, there was a massive push in the government to make some of the Bantustans completely independent nations. Do you know who fought against that? Blacks did.
We want the areas we historically settled. We did that, no one else. Let them have the areas they lived on, no one's trying to take that from them. We want the land we've lived on for centuries, we want the communities we founded at the expense of no one else for ourselves. That's all.
>You have your homeland
I'm a Boer, this is my homeland.
Sure buddy. In all battles we've fought the Boers were outnumbered about 10 to 1
Migrants and settlers can fuck off. If Gyppos and Kikes aren't allowed the Afrikaaners aren't either. Yeah screw you SwampFranks!
Now, answer the fucking question.
You claimed we slaughtered the natives, who did we slaughter?
Also, address pic related here-Where whites peacefully traded and interacted with Bantus in good faith, who then slaughtered our women and children.
Bantu are the only ones who have ever committed a genocide on these lands, to the tune of up to 2 million people. We never did that. You cry that we weren't invited, who invited the Bantu who rampaged across the continent from north west Africa genociding everything in their path? Yet we're the bad guys because we want the land we built and lived on for centuries?
I say no. Let's bring the white out of SA and send the blacks out of white countries. Seems fair
That's very big brained, i'm sure once four million people on the ass end of Africa are gone all the immigrants, and jews are just going to leave Europe. That's why they're there, because we're not good optics for a principled argument. That's galaxy brained thinking right there
I suppose we should slaughter the Turks for invading Europe, same with the North Africans and Middle-Easterners, along with all of Asia for the mongol horde.
you are correct, the boers are honorable aryans and deserve a homeland.
Battle of Blood River was a marvel to learn about.
we should because that is occupied territory where as boers moved to non-occupied land.
That land was settled by nomadic San and Khoi peoples. The Khoisan lost most of their population to genocides committed by the Boers.
You should if the Turks still remain after committing genocide on your people.
Sure, they belong there, but they should not and will not every be permitted to have an "ethno-state" or an actual enclave of sorts. For kicks the South African government tolerates the Orania experiment, which needless to say is a joke.
The former supporters of Apartheid got off easy IMO. Mandela did not enact large scale revenge and reprisals against the former oppresive rulers, even though he could have.
The number of Afrikaaners and "whites"(not a real category btw) in S. Africa is today is actually greater(not by a lot) than it was during Apartheid.
This is despite the so-called flight of them.
The whole genocide thing is a myth. South Africa suffers from rampant crime and violence, but most of it is directed towards the wealthy, it is not strictly based on ethnic background. The poor people just assume that those who are white have the most concentrated wealth, which is sometimes true, and sometimes not.
In any case, South Africa will remain as a rainbow nation forever, and there is nothing you losers can do about it.
>honorable
more aryan than you race mixed inbreds in the US
>The Khoisan lost most of their population to genocides
>en.m.wikipedia.org
Death: 35
topkek
>killed 35
>in retaliation for attacking his party when he went to interview the European missionaries in the town.
>The residents of Leliefontein inflicted serious casualties on the Boers on the first day when they killed 30 Boers and lost only seven Nama people in the fight.
>Defenders
>Khoikhoi sympathetic to Great Britain
That's not a genocide you utter fool. There was no intention to wipe them out, they were attacking Boers after allying with the British. They were part of a proxy battle between British and Boers. 35 deaths. Now compare that to the 240+ women and children massacred at Weenen after trying to interact peacefully with Bantu, add to that the 40 men killed and the other 100 men killed when they slaughtered Retief's delegation two weeks before. Do you consider that a genocide?
>lost most of their population to genocides committed by the Boers.
THIS IS A BOLD FACED LIE. At first we interacted with the Khoi peacefully, the sporadic battles broke out, mostly over cattle theft, then they were wiped out as a nation in the late 1700's by small pox. They were not genocided out of existence, this is a blatant fucking lie.
>That land was settled by nomadic San and Khoi peoples
Which land? South Africa as a single nation was never a khoi concept, the never left the Cape and the Karoo. Which area are you talking about? Be fucking specific you liar
All the whites should leave Africa. And we should send all blacks back to their "homeland".
are you retarded? I have great admiration for boers. Stop divide and conquering kike
None of your arguments answer my original question. You are not native to land of South Africa, so why do you claim all or part of it? You are living on land stolen by your ancestors and you should return it, then go back to Europe. You did genocide the Khoisan people, who did nothing but live peacefully and get invaded by violent whites.