Why do so many young men drop out of society?

Where the fuck do you live? I'm in Texas, one of the states with the LEAST white people, and I still see them everywhere. Half of them are overweight or obese though.

>Good woman
>A fucking leaf

Retard.

Men are realizing they are the ones who have all the leverage, and that we were previously giving away our leverage because we were unaware of how society is fucking us. We work the jobs, we build society, we generate the income, we own the assets. Society should be worshipping us.

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Because society is awful.

They are at work. Or hiding from the world in their bedrooms.

There isn't anything in society that makes anyone happy, peace of mind is more rare than an unicorn.
Men realize that and don't give a fuck, women realize that as well, but they are too proud to admit their "liberation" was a mishap.
This is a rotten culture created by boomer wackos, that prioritizes the worth of an individual over the individual themselves. It's not an individualistic society at all, because we are all equally fucked, we just don't know it.
It's not even racial, I'm Mexican and I'm coming to terms just how fucked is the expectation for both men and women in our culture, you literally have to split your back open in order for people to acknowledge you as worthy, not even successful, just worthy of being part of the circus. And god forbid you're successful, because you're immediately lazy, god forbid you don't want to live in the barrio, because you're cold-hearted and trying to imitate white people.
I'm sick of being pulled around by people because of things I did NOT had any choice in the matter, so I said fuck them, and I live only for myself, and perhaps for my progeny one day, but other than that, fuck this sick society that just dumps you when you stop being useful, "family" and "community" is just a scheme to keep you chained down, fuck any "community" that willingly let the shit that goes in it happen, all the delinquency, all the single parenthood, all the drug abuse, fuck it all, I don't want to be part of your sick machine.

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My dad told me that men are slaves when I was like 10, sadly he was right.
Even in "le based" gay socities like Islam, you have to work while the women just cook and have kids, ez pz life for them.

Now this would be something if the men were working toward something, but really it's only for survival, it's all arbitrary.

we should start a club

This.

Same . but I want to buy a fallout shelter for my shity house and store my shit there m.

dude you figured life out, away with thots and useless whores.

What are you so afraid of?

I disagree with the poster in this regard: a man can feel most alive when he's out in the woods setting up his own homestead, catching his own food, weathering treacherous winters in the north. When does a man feel alive? When he sees what can do with his own two hands and be proud. A man requires no approval but his own. A man needs no affirmation and doesn't cry at the maladies life presents. He finds solutions, navigates obstacles. A man finds happiness in his own true form. So I suggest that the user who wrote this should take a week off and fuck off to the woods with nothing more than the bare essentials. If he makes it back, guaranteed he will have found something out there in the wild.

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>Why do so many young men drop out of society?

because the jews taught boomers to hate their male offspring.

I wouldn’t want to be a female hadji under an Islamic government, you’re retarded if you think that is better than being a man

>If it weren't for playing TTRPGs, I likely wouldn't go outside at all.
wadabout buying food?

Poetic. He has a point. This isnt the way for most men but it is the only way for some.

This. A man needs to develop confidence in himself and pride in his works to feel happy. I feel bad for young men now, millennials think they got a raw deal with the recession but gen z got it worse with the ongoing effects of the recession and spiritual emptiness of the technology age.

Because this is a dystopia. I don't want to be a part of it anymore than I absolutely have to be to survive.

This is a good point. Id rather work hard than be in that situation

I don't feel valued by society, I feel like I'm seen as a negative. Let's be real here, men have always been viewed as disposable in society, but at least we were valued as fathers, soldiers, and leaders. Now days men are viewed with scorn.

I sincerely think shitty food quality is a critically underestimated cause for increased depression

Tired of competition. No greater unified vision or goal. Discrimination against masculinity. Destruction of the male role (protector, provider...men love to be the guardians of their family but if the role gets discriminated...what is left?).

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>Hell even the ones who don't drop out are unhappy as fuck.
Fucking kike propoganda promises that we'll find love at the very least and it isn't there. We just slave away at faggot factory/office jobs with minimal interaction. Hey theres dumb shit like Tinder which is EZ MODO but SURPRISE we forgot to account for the fact that when women can view the entire spectrum in a sitting they'll only settle for the top 80%.
Fuck you.
Eat shit and die.

I started one called mansville. You're a man - Build something!

>>guaranteed he will have found something out there in the wild.
Being isolated makes one appreciate even bad company.

wtfhappenedin1971.com/

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You're absolutely correct.

I hate commuting every day, I hate waking up early and having potbellied faggots in trucks tailgating me so I can go and do monkey work for money I don't spend that is slowly being gnawed at by inflation. I miss being a NEET.

What's my incentive to interact with society beyond the bare minimum I need to survive?

In most Islamic countries the men seem to spend all day sat in cafes smoking.

Indeed. When society doesn't allow the transition from a boy to a man, all your doing is damaging him. A male was never supposed to be trapped inside, slave to a game, or consumer bitch being ordered by his wife what to do and how to do it. A man develops his maturity through the sting of shit kicked in his face, a challenge, or being in a situation where he MUST take action. There are many ways to become a man and find your own true self. You can drop out of this beta/omega male society and be your own man, but it is imperative that you find yourself. Since I'm a northwoods guy, my answer is to go alone in the woods. Spend the nights out there with the wolves and coyotes. Possibly bear and mountain lion. I don't blame the user for being disgusted with our society, as I am too, but he must go find himself. A lot can be found on cool nights peering up at the stars, warming yourself next to a fire of wood you spent hours chopping. Sit there. Listen and ponder your own life. Appreciate what you have and what you want and what step you need to take next. Maybe you'll be lucky and see the northern lights. To become a man, find yourself and the user is right that there is no real process in modern society. You're on your own.

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I struggled all my 20s, sacrificing my hobbies and free time, to go from making minimum wage to $90,000/year (low cost of living south east state). I have nothing to show for it but money and the ability to get dating app matches with obese women that I swiped on out of desperation and loneliness.

But to some people who are disgusted with society and are at the inflection point that the OP of the image was, he needs time to find himself. From his dissatisfaction, this is something that he needs to address. But isolation out in the wild, stops all the noise. You start listening to yourself and not these pompous SJW's that want to steal your soul. Unplugging is a fantastic reprieve and quite needed for some people.

Assets. Acquire assets.

Sounds like you need to address this. So think about some options that would make you feel you have something to show for it. You are in a very good position and by the way, stop giving a fuck about women. When you actually treat them like you don't give a fuck about them, somehow.. they like that. Fucking weird.

I love this post. Nailed it. Modern society sucks, go back to nature and rediscover your roots.

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I have a theory as to why this is. Some other anons brushed on it briefly. Here it goes:

PRIMAL STATE OF MEN
>Men are machines of war, killing and hunting is a stress relief
>Fighting for glory, women, food and treasures brings us great joy
>Hand to hand, sword combat and archery basically engrained in our instincts as an artform.

MODERN STATE OF MAN
>Violence totally outlawed save for self-deffence, even then it can only be if totally provoked and in the same amount as the agressor. If he had a gun but didn't shoot you, although you knew he would, and you killed him odds are you'll go to jail for life because horseshit (((justice system))), and hunting for food is totally unecessary.
>Basically can't invade other nations or towns to steal their shit, United Nations will reprimand you, get court marshalled by military, and acussed of "war crimes" because even war has to be in self-deffense and in measured amounts (that is how cucked we are, there are RULES for WAR, gtfo of here Genghis Khan is rolling in his grave).
>Modern warfare is so ridiculous there is no point in sending men in, they'll just get sniped from 12 million miles away, droned from the sky, or smashed from orbit with metal rods (soon to happen you'll see).

Basically, it used to be that a depressed man with nothing to lose could get a group of men together to go and pillage a village to gain all sorts of stuff, and bond with said men creating friends through struggle and happiness through ahievement. Now? Good fucking luck, if you join the military you are just a meat shield, and you won't even get a pension if you survive.

So, to answer your question OP, men drop out because there is no real room for fast gain (ie conquest) through risk and fighting, if you want to be rich go grind in some company for 65 years without end, and if you want women you compete and are compared against 3.5 billion other boners, including celebrities, royalty and billionairs.

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This. And it's called "demoralization." The answer is to refuse the premise. Be yourself and don't let anyone dictate who you are. Do what the fuck you want to do.

no, they settle for the top 20%

>Be yourself and don't let anyone dictate who you are. Do what the fuck you want to do.
So become a MGTOW?

>unironically advocating behaving like niggers

This entire charade of a society will fall. There's no way to go but deterioration. In the mean time, I suggest anons get themselves into boxing or a martial art. Be loyal at the gym. And your battle is for YOUR SOUL. We are at that point now, and you can see it everywhere. So many men becoming women, or lost their inherent primal instinct to be "a man." There are ways to hedge it, and this is what must happen.

No, They go to cafes after work

Checked

This. The second you start not giving a fuck they get wet. I don't understand. They have self respect but want to be undermined at every turn, challenged repetitively and pushed and pulled like your shaking a baby. If you can tease them and have fun without taking everything too serious it makes them feel insecure with herself and safe with you.

A house ? Stocks? Guns?

I would need to save at least 100k to live off of any kind of capital gains.

NOO YOU CAN'T JUST STEAL MY CROPS

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maybe you should gtfo california l

No. Refuse the premise. Stop accepting society's view of what a man should be. Go find out for yourself!!! Learn how to do woodworking, concrete, anything that improves your skills of self sufficiency. Don't spend one minute on juxtaposing yourself to society's marxist view of what a man should be. Busy yourself improving yourself in every possible way. Finances, pragmatic skills (HVAC, Electrical, construction, Woodworking). By taking this initiative you are refusing the premise that you need to be some women's bitch, you are being your own man. And whether they admit it or not, the trad women will find you. They're out there.

Oh shut the fuck up. I'm so sick of hearing this. We're not even allowed to express our own instincts even in speech form without some effete gynocentric fucking sissy like you coming along to tone police. Just shut your mouth.

Go back you faggot. We got to this point because everyone wants the goodies but no one wants to bear the responsibility of making society work. If you want to live for yourself then get the fuck out.

...So become a MGTOW because everything you said is exactly what the MGTOW philosophy is. Well except for still believing in tradcon women.

No real military allegiance, no sustainable economy, everyone’s materialistic, women are whores, even children act more selfish than they used to. Religion is just about nonexistent in any meaningful way. Our race is literally being purposely replaced for “cheaper labor”.

Why the fuck would I want to participate in this bullshit “society”?

>Tfw 28, NEET, HS drop out virgin with $23 in the bank

Kek, bring on the collapse.

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by pushing producers out of society through a conspiracy of despots and nonproducers, the spastic cataclysmic fall of western civilization is assured

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Kek hope you get better user

>in the bank

of course you're a fucking frogposter... ever heard of a bank run? you won't be allowed to take out more than $500 one day, genius. Consider gold, or don't, and lose all your money like a two digit IQ mongoloid

And finally, women want to be taken not negotiated with (their words verbatium to me when I asked after sxual encounters). So the same dynamic as war plays out. The natural way of things that makes men and women happy is outlawed and distorted with technology, so we end up with a fucked up parody of how things should really be make people feel like they live meaningful lives.

Why would anyone be happy in modern society? Only those who would fail and die out in the wild are happy with current norms. It is only the betas who love submitting to auhority, grinding for companies, and respecring women because in their mind girls are all saints and princesses. Omegas and alphas have one thing in common, both don't give a shit about complying with social norms, and both would be happier fighting alongside each other in times of ancient greece, rome and china.

So don't feel bad about yourself, and don't hate on Chads or extreme social recluses, their both cut from the same cloth. Hate the betas and the jews who would rather have us live like a Lion in a cage. Fuck those people in power who think women mean what they say giving us the cureent fucked up dating paradigm. And fuck them, for outlawing happiness altogether.

gee idk try to become a celeb or something. start posting videos on tiktok bro

>Why do so many young men drop out of society?
>Hell even the ones who don't drop out are unhappy as fuck.

Well if your not a dipshit you'll figure out:

1. The value of money by our monetary system abuse by the central banks means working full time will still not permit you to be able to afford a home, land, utilities, family, car, etc. The value has been destroyed. If you are a legit boomer, imagine having a full time job yet getting paid .5 cents an hour instead of 2 or 3 dollars an hour in the 1960's. Yeah you'll be able to buy a 16oz coke bottle, basic inexpensive food, for the day, but very little will build up enough to afford anything without having to go into debt with the bank.

2. The bias legal system and family kangaroo courts. If you are a guy, and your opponent is a woman, you basically lost the case because she has a vagina. There is no incentive to invest in having a family. Women are actually a liability and generally a bad investment. Yes for the tradcucks, there will be that one unicorn out there who's already got men and suitors lined up around several blocks, but mostly they are so hard to find that the odds are negligible for anyone not a complete simp and fool.

3. Gynocentric society isn't worth supporting or saving. Society hates men, our sexuality, our culture, our ideas, and etc. Why would men support and invest in clown world? It's better to have everything go Mad Max than deal with what we are currently seeing. Most don't even care about Corona destroying everything, we just want to survive it and help burn it to the ground and cull any sprouts of Clown World that may surface like Women's Suffrage. In fact, I would even go so far as to say our current society is really run by criminals and gangsters at every level from national to local levels. A rude awakening is needed.

4. Dropping out passes the cost benefit analysis. Trying to contribute does not and can lead to things such as supporting this stupid system.

i don't know if you know this but many have committed suicide and or hooked on hill billy heroin

What do billionaires do? What do (((they))) do? Property is the single best investment to hedge against the inflation fuck. And wouldn't you know it, if you flip a house and it turns out to be a capital gain, it only costs 15%. Whereas, being a wagie, you could easily pay 20-30-40% of your earnings in ONE FUCKING YEAR. So, tax policy is geared towards wagies remaining slaves (and yes, even doctors making $1 million a year are wagies). But this can be circumvented by acquiring assets. Case in point, is a 1909-1911 Honus Wagner BASEBALL CARD really worth $3 million? Why is it worth that much? People with this amount of money buy this shit because they can, and they'll always make money, tax free on it.

>Unreliable whores

A real charmer there lads.

If you think men are motivated exclusively by rape, plunder and killings - yes you are a nigger.

Yes, these things can happen and I'm not a moral fag who will act like it's something terrible. I don't care. However most often these things happened as a side effect of deeper processes. Men were motivated by deeper reasons like
>bringing civilization/a certain religion to barbarians.
>fighting for the glory of your tribe/nation
>believing your culture is worth being preserved and superior
>wanting your kids to grow up in a better/wealthier culture than you etc...
Yeah plunder and killings happened as a side effect of these things and were the cherry on the top, but they were never fucking THE main motivator for risking your fucking life. Men never risked their life out of boredom or greed, but for genuine ideals and dreams. That's what seperates us from niggers. The tragedy of our times is not that we can't kill and rape. I would fully accept that we can't do it if we lived in a society that cares about us and is striving towards something worthwhile. So yeah you are a fucking nigger.