> What is National Socialism? National Socialism is the belief of man as part of the natural world; it is the idea that society should be structured in accordance with the laws of nature. An integral part of National Socialism is Racial Idealism, an idea based in the unbounding love of one's own people. This love is expressed by placing the interests of the racial community to which you belong ahead of your own individual desires, understanding that this selflessness will be paid back in full by your fellow man.
National Socialism believes in putting the nation before yourself. Despite this, there is considerable difference between the socialism of Hitler and that of Marxist doctrine. Hitler's nationalism has the patriotic motive of placing the good of one’s country before personal ambition while retaining one's individuality and happiness, whereas Marxism squeezes the people dry in favor of a machine-like nation built only for profit.
In short, National Socialism believes that all men are NOT created equal. Just as every individual has his strengths and weaknesses, so too does each race have qualities which are unique to that group. National Socialism believes in the improvement of your people through individual means; its goal is that each new generation of children will be better off than the one before it.
Listen here you little faggots cause I'm going to fuck you up with some truth. We all want to feel patriotic and proud of our heritage. Americana is fucking great and 1776 will come again. But the moment you call for a totalitarian dictatorship with a tyrannical ruler that I am forced to worship, enforced by propaganda, oppression and brainwashing, I will hold you down and shit inside your mouth. You think you're going to declare war on Russia and USA and expect me to fight for you? You will suck on both of these nuts.
You're a little faggot cuck bitches and the reason why every Americans has a guns is specifically so they can shoot you in your dumb retarded face.
Worship Hitler all you want you weird little faggots, we allow you to do so.
>Americana is fucking great and 1776 will come again. When you nigger? Ultranationalism is the final solution when all of you pussies fail to act, as you have for decades. You have no balls and have let America fall into total disrepair and degeneracy. By the time it's our turn to act there won't be an America anymore. Once one state leaves, the entire country will balkanize.
>But the moment you call for a totalitarian dictatorship with a tyrannical ruler that I am forced to worship, enforced by propaganda, oppression and brainwashing >t. nigger who fell for the propaganda
Bro, I am so happy you are free to hold and express your fucking autistic views. We were all young. Hell I used to wear a Che Gevara t-shirt when I was 14, But try for one second to implement a fascist goverment if you have the balls to. We will tie you up on the Tower Bridge, we will form an orderly queue, and all of us will shit inside your mouth one by one. I dare you to try little faggot.
Leo Jenkins
*your words echo through the synagogue*
Joseph Watson
See, you don't understand how Ultranationalist movements achieve power, because your understanding is built on jewish propaganda, which is built on another misunderstanding.
By the time your mess has run full course, you'll be begging for us to save you from the internationalists and communists. Unless you're jewish.
Asher Roberts
Meh. I'm quarter Jewish and don't really give a shit. I find orthodox Jews repulsive and fucking gross. They all look diseased and weird. But I went to Israel last summer. It is the most amazing fucking country I have ever seen. Those mother fuckers know how to run an ethnostate and protect it, believe me. I wish we could have a nation we loved and protected and cared about. I felt very envious of what they have.
But you go ahead and try to implement a tyrannical dictatorship and I guarantee you, we will tie you up, and we will shit inside your mouth one by one. This is not Jewish propaganda, the Greeks, the Romans, the Brits, the Americans, all great nations know to keep power in check You little fucking sub bitch cuck
>we will tie you up, and we will shit inside your mouth one by one. I hate feeding socialists for free, but if you catch the tyrannical nigger, he's yours and I suppose you can paint him what ever color you like.
Justin Perez
Hey listen bro, I will never tell you what you're allowed to say or believe in. I will defend your right to be a Nazi. All I'm saying is try to implement a tyranical dictatorship in America, and be prepared to be shot in your stupid face. Unfortunately, I can't carry guns, so that's why I would shit inside your mouth instead. But only if you tried to install a tyranical regime. Which is what you believe in, am I right? Like, you want a dictator to send you to war and to oppress you? That's what you want little faggot? Don't you
Nathaniel Cox
>Meh. I'm quarter Jewish Well that explains that then.
>perverse scat fetish >no ties to home country's history or identity >does nothing to prevent total collapse of country >calls others the problem
No. I fucking hate commies and hitlerboos are nothing more than commies in training.
Dominic Turner
So gtfo of this thread zoom zoom
Jeremiah Mitchell
Your points are all valid. I am a Jew, and Jews are quite manipulative and stingy and give 0 fucks about the country they live in. Maybe they are trying to corrupt western civilisation (I personally don't believe that, but I do see things where I'm like "ok, what the fuck"). I work in finance and HATE doing business with Jews. They always try to screw you. But the moment you try to impose on everyone a tyranical dictatorship, a totalitarian ruler with worship of the personality, warmongering, propaganda, secret police, planned economy, oppression of minority groups... excuse me, but you are a disgusting piece of shit and you need to be shot in the face, for the greater good.
My friend, there is nothing worse than a fucking piece of shit commie. So why do you try to be like them?? Let the people be free
Caleb Perez
You're not the fuhrer of me, fuckface.
Jason Young
>I'm quarter Jewish Congrats, kike.
Luke Lewis
Mate, my Grandma used to take me feed the ducks in the village pond and to buy sweets at the corner store every morning. We then went for lunch in the village pub and when I was a kid she gave me shandy (half 7up, half beer). You think I should feel bad about that? What is your fucking amazing pedigree? Are you the fucking duchess of Windsor or something?
Here we go with the poorly made fucking botched infographics... I accept your criticism, but fuck your shitty as botched memes. >The photo is poorly cropped >The reference is non-existing >The resolution is potato >The message is fucking useless shit
If I gave that to my boss, he would fucking lose his shit and tell me to go fuck myself
Believe in whatever you want bros, but please have higher standards
>a totalitarian ruler Authoritarianism is not the same as totalitarianism. The Third Reich had market economics and lower taxes than any western country, and firearm ownership of private citizens increased. Compared to modern Western politics, the Third Reich was libertarian by comparison. And it didn't have subhumans in it.
>with worship of the personality The German people had widespread support for Hitler and the National Socialists. Nobody can even reject this. It was genuine. Humans engage in hero worship when they are deserving of it.
>warmongering Most countries declared war on Germany, not the other way around. Wanting Germans living in German land to become apart of germany, after that land/population was stolen and given to another country, and that country refuses, is legitimate reason for war. Destroying the bastion of international communism is legitimate cause for war. There's a difference between Warmongering and acting violently for good reason. Something based on your posts you would understand.
>propaganda I'm going to assume this is a shitpost.
>secret police The third reich didn't have secret police?
>planned economy Lmao, nope. The opposite.
> oppression of minority groups Yes. countries should maintain their homogeneity for the sake of community cohesion.
tl;dr you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about
Adam Jones
Ok, this is fucking gold. You will, on an intellectual basis, try to defend a fascist dictatorship? Let me go through your points one by one. You are a beautiful and rare specimen and I'm thankful idiots like you exist.
>Compared to modern Western politics, the Third Reich was libertarian by comparison How? I'm down for less (or no taxes) and give everyone all the guns they want. Besides that, I dont see it. You have one political ideology that advocates for individual liberty and the lack of government influence, and restrictions/regulations in ones personal life while the other is the opposite
Nathan Kelly
God damn, even when I'm in the mood to peruse NS threads I see so little well communicated content that I truly wonder if I shouldn't be against your ideas.
David Garcia
It really depends on who shows up, thread by thread. It seems we just have the retarded debate team here tonight.
I'll be honest with you, I started writing my response and got really fucking bored. I will concede all these points to you, you are correct, I was mistaken, and also, I got cocky. You are right I admit it. Hitler4life
Ok this bullshit. I will always be open to any message you have. But holly shit fuck your cheap ass elementary school botched job. Seriously, some fucking Japanese bald cunt I never heard of, in 1943, said the Jews were devils. I believe you 100%, but also, your post is dog shit and has absolutely no value.
Honestly, lately, Reddit is actually better. HAve you seen Yas Forums? "Celebrity Thred". "Facebook Thread", "Rate Dicks Thread" Reddit is totally better these days. Sorry, you suck
Eli Ross
hello i want to be one of the cool guys but one i am lazy im not going to fuggin goose step and i need at least 10 hours sleep a day, 2 im pure bred but im slavic but less than 1 percent jew, can i be in the cool guys club?
Nicholas Moore
I merely said "by comparison", I was not saying that it is actually libertarian. The law was less invasive, people could do pretty much whatever they wanted within reason, and government corruption was destroyed. Combined with low taxes, a privatized economy, and relatively high individual freedoms(assuming you weren't a communist); compared to the modern world it was comparatively 'more libertarian'.
>I'll be honest with you, I started writing my response and got really fucking bored. Whatever you say, jew.
Wyatt Fisher
Hitler loosened gun restrictions for Germans and lowered many taxes in his economic reforms (unlike FDR). After the war ended, Hitler probably would have made an even more libertarian system for Germans, considering there were no enemies now. In any case, Hitler wanted government influence to be kept only as much as was necessary, and actually opposed excessive bureaucracy and government intrusion, which he considered communist.
>”if by means of state authority, the govt drives a people to extinction, it is not only the right, but the duty of every citizen to rebel”-Hitler, mein kampf
Hitler opposed big government
Jackson King
Why are you frustrated, my man? It's just a cat in a corner.
Tell me how the Reich would have stabilized in your view. Also, how can the Fuhrer continue to make rational decisions in any scenario when his doctor had made him a drug addict and there was no procedure for what happens in that scenario? I truly believe it to be the reason the war was started and lost.
Justin Wood
I think in the way that their economy was oriented, the Reich would have had a real fuckin hard time stabilizing had they not been destroyed during the war. Nazi Germany winning or even surviving the war, I mean.
It was very military-industry focused. So what happens when you don't need to continue making tanks and rifles and canteens? The war is over, and you lost a million of your men, where does industry go from there?
The answer I have is honestly I don't know. It would've had to have been a very well orchestrated shift from military industry to something else, like automobile exporting or something along those lines (obviously in addition to other industries).
I'm not really the person who says The Reich would've been uber successful had the war not happened in the way that it did, because that's not really reasonable for anyone to predict.
The Fuhrer would've probably had to retire. Assuming Germany won the war, Hitler would've obviously wanted a hand in the immediate post-war years. But I think that without the added stress of the war, he wouldn't have been as neurotic and could have likely been convinced to step down, appoint a successor, and retire but still offer counsel and be Uncle Adolf to Germany. That's the idealistic alternative history. Assuming he was too far gone and literally fucking insane, he would've had to have been quietly deposed by Reich leadership but kept alive so the Volk wouldn't get all uppity.
Lucas Sanders
Bro, I love you, I love cats, I hate totalitarian regimes. And if you got a problem with that, too bad
Ayden Wright
I mean, I didn't even make any claims about totalitarian regimes. But I see where you're coming from. I just dig the animal pictures. I love you too.
I was thinking very similarly on both questions. Honestly I don't know if I would trust anybody to responsibly and successfully revive National Socialism on a state level.
Reviving it today is practically impossible. It may not always be, but shit isn't fucked enough currently.
In order for people to turn to certain "extremist" political systems, such as Natsoc, Stalinist-communism, theocracy, etc, things have to be absolutely terrible. It's basically a prereq. Especially in the West, where we are trained like Pavlov's dogs to become defense and angry at the mention of "National Socialism" or any alias of it.
For fun, a friend of mine and I have been tinkering around with different concepts for modern Natsoc and the different ways it could look. One of the more fun brain-exercises is constitutional natsoc. Or a Natsoc in stages, which is legitimately the most intelligent way (that I have found) to revive Natsoc (or an altered, updated version of it).
Aiden Morgan
>It was very military-industry focused. So what happens when you don't need to continue making tanks and rifles and canteens? The war is over, and you lost a million of your men, where does industry go from there? This is a common misconception about Third Reich economics. The war industry was a hindrance on the Third Reich economy, not the other way around. Car factories that had been built to make Volkswagen cars had to be repurposed to make tanks. By the middle of the war, like all countries, access to consumer goods had dropped due to resources being diverted to military industry. With the access to the lands Germany had reclaimed, and the shift back to a peacetime economy, Germany would've thrived, not collapsed, as industry and resources were diverted back to civilian use and the rebuilding process. Due to guaranteed jobs, the usual pitfall of market economies (namely unemployment breeding less consumption, leading to lower economic activity leading to more unemployment) wasn't there. Everyone who was willing to work hard got paid a wage, and that money would've flowed back into the civilian economy.
>The war is over, and you lost a million of your men, where does industry go from there? There may have been some manpower shortages for a while, yes. But the reproductive rate of Germany was extremely high during the Third Reich, as the government encouraged and supported large families.
Gavin Thompson
okay boys, got a hitler pic that's taken me an hour to render, prepare your based selves.
A knowledgeable man has entered the arena. Welcome, amigo.
I'm certainly not as well-researched as I would like to be, so I welcome this discussion.
In reference to your last point, I find that particularly interesting.
I recall reading about the Natsoc programs constructed to help families. One, if I recall correctly, helped newlyweds get a down payment on a house. And another, if I recall correctly, lowered mortgages by certain percentages depending on how many babies the couple had.
I don't have citation for it, I just recall reading it somewhere. And I find it particularly interesting.
Fuck politics, humanity is destined to cascade upon itself over and over again in the search for higher power and meaning. I'm here to study meme dynamics
Cooper Bailey
provide Natsoc pics for me to enhance, you won't regret it (:
The acknowledgment of thus is by definition national socialism
Depends on your behavior, Hitler's bodyguards and chauffeur were jews.
We beat your country in a war on a shoestring, faggot, and your entire territory became a Muslim hive. Why in the absolute fuck should we listen to you?
It was absolutely true. The most beneficial to all humans state got destroyed, on purpose, by our forefathers, and we were taught in school how good it was the entire time.
