250 billion stars

Do you realize how random it would be for them to find us? Do you believe Earth is like a beacon in space, or even noticeable? From just outside of our own solar system, our own SUN looks like a normal star, and not even an impressive one. That distance is nothing compared to even the distance to the next nearest star.

>There are millions of other moons they could probe.
trillions - at least

*in this Galaxy

There's a good chance that alien civilizations have existed long before us. Our civilization has only been around for a few thousand years. That's nothing compared to the age of the universe. The odds of another civilization developing in the same timespan as us are very low.
Many alien civilizations have likely appeared and disappeared throughout billions of years

Self-replicating intelligent robots. They wouldn't need to do shit. They could basically bruteforce the entire galaxy.

tfw the monolith was racist

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Yep, I lean towards that being the great filter as well. Assuming that most civilizations wipe themselves out is scifi-tier bullshit. It's far more likely that multi-cellular life is incredibly rare.

I've thought about it, and your analysis is completely wrong. We barely have the technology to get 100 humans to mars. We do NOT have the technology to get any number of humans to be nearest star.

If you disagree, then tell me how we would get 100 humans to the nearest start. And don't tell me about your fictional self-replicating robots.

>fiction
oh

Maybe alien robots just dont find us interesting.

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it would take the same amount of them for life on other planets around stable Population I stars to evolve intelligence as it would on Earth. If life were able to form around earlier Population II stars, then they may have become so advanced that what they did will be indistinguishable from nature or went extinct billions of years ago

There is nothing impossible about this technology. It's not like I'm talking about muh FTL shit. Any interstellar-level engineering is literally impossible without self-replicating robots. It's a must for the space age.

We've got propulsion systems to do it, it's more a matter of getting a ship built to do it and the costs of getting material into orbit. Having Falcon Heavy helps quite a bit, but having an orbital ring would make construction possible.

Humans are already self replicating robots.
NEXT.

No, we don't. We don't have any propulsion system, or life support system, or anything that could keep functioning for thousands of years to get to the next nearest star. The microchips, the pumps, the motors, everything would fail within 50 years. Technology simply doesn't last that long.

That's the most absurd fiction. There's no such thing as a self replicating robots. Do you know how hard it is to fabricate a microchip? Of course you don't.
If you want to use humans, that's fine. But it's very difficult to move humans around and the life support will fail before you get to the nearest star.

fpbp. It's literally the simplest and most realistic model.

>massive glob-alist conspiracy.
>trigonometry isn't a thing.
>flying from south america to south africa doesn't take 3 days but trust me bro, it's a disc
lol how is that the simplest model?

I'm 99% sure there is life elsewhere, but its kind of a stretch to assume that we'd meet civilization building races, and even those that do... fermi paradox. In my mind beyond AIs and designing intelligent biological life once we're sufficiently advanced.... if we started sending out generation ships and whatnot to seed worlds across the galax, after a few hundred thousand years of isolation adapting to the new worlds, we'd probably start to seem quite alien. Kinda like the races in anarchy online.

The great filtrer is actually having one single habitable planet in your system.

A system like trappist 1 could create a space civilization one like ours is hard.
Once you colonize every corner of the planet your economic and political system becomes a closed system and closed systems suffer increased levels of entropy until they die.
Without another planet to get something out it's probably impossible to create a space civilization.

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they existed, some still do, but once they gain the ability to edit genes they accidentally or intentionally release civilization ending biologic or some other form of apocalyptic technology that ultimately destroys them

its called a great filter event

Do you have any idea how insanely specific the conditions have to be to support carbon-based life, let alone humanoid life?

>Zero evidence of alien activity anywhere (inb4 schizos)
What about that military video that was declassified and the air force went lol dunno when asked what it was?

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great post for a leaf.
Look up the fermi paradox and also great filters. Really cool ideas. basiclly multi cell life took over a billion years and life almost got wiped a few times on earth since then.

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>We truly are alone
Or we're on the planetary equivalent of a wildlife reserve.

We are the last living planet in this universe.

unidentified flying object doesn't mean alien.
"i don't know" is still a valid response

And here I thought it was because you were such a huge faggot.

>>you could colonize the entire galaxy in less than 1 million years using self-replicating robots so all it would take is ONE civilization, in the span of a like a billion fucking years, to reach a development level not too far (1000 years at most) from where we are now, to litter the entire galaxy with at least probes if nothing else
Assuming that a species with 1000+ years advancement would want to do this.

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That's because the Nordic race is God's prime creation. His magnum opus.

Retarded

Think about why. Think about, in a universe full of alien civilizations, no one is daring to make a sound. Think about that genius.

In a multiverse of endless variation the probability you will exist becomes a certainty.

Humans aren't very good examples of long lasting life. If we ever found life I think it would resemble something like trees or coral. Civilization is an extremely new concept to earth and we don't really know if it's actually sustainable in the long term. It could be rate because it doesn't actually work, we think it's the greatest thing ever but we only have a few thousand years of growth to back us up, which is barely a blink of eye to Earth.

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>Once you colonize every corner of the planet your economic and political system becomes a closed system and closed systems suffer increased levels of entropy until they die.
If that's the filter then where are the aliens that colonized everything?

a billion years ago the bacterial hivemind conspired to create multicellular animal life in order to convert dirt into shit

I've been coming around to the idea of the inverted spherical universe lately. It kind of makes sense because in a 1d image flat ground will rise up

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>If that's the filter then where are the aliens that colonized everything?

That's the problem user , unless you have two planets with life in a solar system odds are a civilization will never expand to space.

Once you colonize everything it will happen the same than to our civilization after the 1880s when every corner was colonized.
Entropy started to rise and 30 years after the entire system exploded with all the countries killing each other.

Then central banks were created everywhere to delay this effect but once again ww2 happens, then more institutions were created to work as a flexible patch to reduce this entropy and things like bretton woods , the world bank , imf even glowniggers were designed to work as flexible organism patching the problems in the system but even that is failing hard , bretton woods failed, the world bank and imf do shit they should not do.

It's a race against entropy once your system is closed in a way when a nation export stuff it also reduces it's entropy by having working big supply lines.
While nations importing increase their entropy by having low quality jobs that don't require long supply lines.

But since we are a closed system we are all fucked anyway because that nation reducing it's entropy will be flooded by refugees from the other nation after it goes to shit.

Before we had a closed system, things like companies or nations fell and new ones with low entropy replaced them.
But after we became a closed system that stopped happening, companies are pumped with central banks(literally all big corporations like coca cola were created 30 years before central banking), central banks only delay their death by pumping money but as they grow bigger they are also more disconnected to reality and thus less able to react.

And nations are no longer being replaced due to nukes existing and everyone depending on each other.

Shit's fucked up.

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You have it backward. Dirt is bacterial shit. Everything before that is rock. There is a difference between dirt and rock dust.

The only explanation is that every other civilization in the universe also has niggers they have to babysit.

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true i guess, but animals are producing bacterial shit at industrial levels

Space niggers
From space, nigger.

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hmm

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Nope,
Earth has a flat surface but is still hollow since the lower part is shaped like an island.

Space is actually water and why the dome exists.

Dinosaur meteor is a super nuke build by Atlantans when they genocided the reptilian race in exchange for setting back tech for thousands of years.

We're not alone. Humans rule the galaxy, we're just a prison planet, or we've been quarantined.

I did not realize we'd scanned every single body in the solar system to sub-meter resolution! That's so cool!

The only thing we definitively haven't seen is big-ass radio transmissions directed right at us. Earth-level TV and radio from another star system wouldn't be detectable with current tech beyond a few light years.

What would our restrictions be if we found a planet with life? Land and start massacring everything or leave it the fuck alone as a scientific observation subject - particularly if life is relatively rare.

I'm sure there's a parallel reality where we made something of ourselves, user.

Once a spaceship is at full acceleration it requires no more energy in space. The craft should be a spore bomb. Spores requires no sunlight and can live on water and rock. After that its just a matter of time.

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Clearly the obvious answer to that question is to make random crop circles, occasionally slaughter livestock, and secretly kidnap some of the planet’s less mentally stable inhabitants. We would then anally probe said inhabitants...for science.
t. Not ayy lmao shill

what if we're the real aliens

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I like your style!

>silently shuffle my alien butt probe design back under the rest of the papers

Thank you fellow humaan! What a wonderful earth weather we are having today!

I make no humaan judgements against you, friendly!

It's the Canadarm, isn't it, leaf? Your fooling no one.

I agree with your great filter proposal but I think that the bottle neck isn't multicellular life but inteligent life that creates civilization, a big brain is expensive to maintain and doesn't offer that big of an advantage, the only reason it did work here was because a very specific set of conditions were met that permited such specialization

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Corona-chan is the Great filter.

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