>No pagan thread? >pagan thread Let us discuss the reemergence of the native European beliefs and how this will politically/spiritually/aesthetically influence the west. Especially now that so many European leaders seems to stand up against core Christian dogmas of European replacement. We live in interesting times!
Let's get started with an ancient juicy love poem from our long lost pagan friends down south >O my god, my lotus flower! . . . >It is lovely to go out and . . . >I love to go and bathe before you. >I allow you to see my beauty >in a dress of the finest linen, >drenched with fragrant unguent. >I go down into the water to be with you >and come up to you again with a red fish, >looking splendid on my fingers. >I place it before you . . . >Come! Look at me! (IFAO 1266 + Cairo 25218, 7-11)
Although I endorse this perspective, 'pagan' is a terrible word.
If we want to describe the traditional culture of Europe before it had some hysterical semitic cult imposed on it by violence, some term that emphasizes the ancestral, indigenous, native, organic nature of 'paganism' would be more appealing.
Those beliefs are actually the default in West. They are Europe's Shinto. And it took a lot of effort to marginalize them.
But the term 'paganism' makes them sound like an eccentricity.
Caleb Scott
Can you cite the Pagan teaching against homosexuality and/or abortion?
Camden Ortiz
Shit me in the ass?
Logan Sanders
Based
Ethan Myers
>homosexuality yeet into bog >abortion often a good eugenic practice, decision allowed only to the pater familias
Charles Phillips
OK, that's you saying that, but what's the authority?
Julian Jones
the tribe and the laws of nature
William Torres
>No pagan thread? the way we like it. fuck off. if there wasnt one, you didn't need to make one.
>the tribe Do you mean the town? The nation? >the laws of nature There's nothing in nature that says you can't stick your dick in something that can contain a dick. Nature, for example, doesn't care whether an impregnation comes through consent or rape.
Grayson Butler
there's no pagan authorities left, we can only read about what the sources tell us about them for abortion, the sources essentially agree that it was a faculty of the father, in the case of Rome for instance even an obligation for those fetuses born with clear deformations
Robert Martin
Paganism lost to Christianity and will never come back. Cry all you want, but it's the truth. The West's future lies with Christianity.
Christopher Gutierrez
>Do you mean the town? The nation? Yes. >There's nothing in nature that says you can't stick your dick in something that can contain a dick. Nature, for example, doesn't care whether an impregnation comes through consent or rape. There is a rational and purpose to the universe and getting poop on your penis for the purpose of getting poop on your penis is a clear lack of functioning reason and that of a teleological purpose.
Austin Morris
What does an Alabama chainsaw say? *RUNnigganigganigganigga hhhRUNnigganigganigganig*
Justin Jenkins
Christianity lost to Atheism Cry all you want, but its the truth The Wests future lies with Rational Philosophy and not with ancient fairy tales
Grayson Reyes
Gay.
Fuck atheism. I prefer Christcucks to you homos
Samuel Edwards
Rational philosophy destroys the west >west's future
Jaxson Green
On homosex we have the writings of Tacitus not sure about abortion. Given the eugenic practices of rome and greece though im guessing most tradpagans would consider it ok in the case of a sickly or deformed child same as NS Germany incidentally
Angel Turner
Christianity will lose to islam and it will never come back Cry all you want but its the truth The wests future lies with islam
William Rogers
Yeah, people don't understand that it was a mass slaughter.
You guys should just stick to your nordic shit, you aren't part of the West or classic med Greco-Roman civilization by calling yourself "pagan." Nords and meds aren't united and never have been even as all Christian.
Carson Mitchell
It's afraid. It fears the return of European polytheism that will soon burn the continent in fervent religious fire.
Europe stands together in our common polytheist heritage.
Indo-European, same origins, similar pantheon, similar mythologies, similar concepts, same tree user, unlike the desert semitic stuff that is a different tree altogether.
>lets discuss re-emerging beliefs which we know already not to be true or make any sense for healthy lives or society >no we aren't larpers
larpagans are all mentally ill
Carter Russell
this pic hurts
Kayden Barnes
PRAISE JVPITER OPTIMVS MAXIMVS!
Judeo christshits can't cope with the fact their jewish religion is dying out in Europe and only gets a few more numbers statistically because of all christian africans and latinos being born
>I only care about math and rational philosophy So you're a Pythagorean? Very based! First worship the Immortal gods, as they are established and ordained by the Law. 2. Reverence the Oath, and next the Heroes, full of goodness and light. 3. Honour likewise the Terrestrial Daemons by rendering them the worship lawfully due to them. 4. Honour likewise your parents, and those most nearly related to you. 5. Of all the rest of mankind, make him your friend who distinguishes himself by his virtue. 6. Always give ear to his mild exhortations, and take example from his virtuous and useful actions. 7. Avoid as much as possible hating your friend for a slight fault. 8. Power is a near neighbour to necessity. 9. Know that all these things are just as what I have told you; and accustom yourself to overcome and vanquish these passions:-- 10. First gluttony, sloth, sensuality, and anger. 11. Do nothing evil, neither in the presence of others, nor privately; 12. But above all things respect yourself. 13. In the next place, observe justice in your actions and in your words. 14. And do not accustom yourself to behave yourself in any thing without rule, and without reason. 15. But always make this reflection, that it is ordained by destiny that all men shall die. 16. And that the goods of fortune are uncertain; and that just as they may be acquired, they may likewise be lost. 17. Concerning all the calamities that men suffer by divine fortune, 18. Support your lot with patience, it is what it may be, and never complain at it. 19. But endeavour what you can to remedy it. 20. And consider that fate does not send the greatest portion of these misfortunes to good men.
21. There are many sorts of reasonings among men, good and bad; 22. Do not admire them too easily, nor reject them. 23. But if falsehoods are advanced, hear them with mildness, and arm yourself with patience. 24. Observe well, on every occasion, what I am going to tell you:-- 25. Do not let any man either by his words, or by his deeds, ever seduce you. 26. Nor lure you to say or to do what is not profitable for yourself. 27. Consult and deliberate before you act, that you may not commit foolish actions. 28. For it is the part of a miserable man to speak and to act without reflection. 29. But do the thing which will not afflict you afterwards, nor oblige you to repentance. 30. Never do anything which you do not understand. 31. But learn all you ought to know, and by that means you will lead a very pleasant life. 32. In no way neglect the health of your body; 33. But give it drink and food in due measure, and also the exercise of which it needs. 34. Now by measure I mean what will not discomfort you. 35. Accustom yourself to a way of living that is neat and decent without luxury. 36. Avoid all things that will occasion envy. 37. And do not be prodigal out of season, like someone who does not know what is decent and honourable. 38. Neither be covetous nor stingy; a due measure is excellent in these things. 39. Only do the things that cannot hurt you, and deliberate before you do them. 40. Never allow sleep to close your eyelids, after you went to bed, 41. Until you have examined all your actions of the day by your reason. 42. In what have I done wrong? What have I done? What have I omitted that I ought to have done? 43. If in this examination you find that you have done wrong, reprove yourself severely for it; 44. And if you have done any good, rejoice. 45. Practise thoroughly all these things; meditate on them well; you ought to love them with all your heart.
haha there is no such thing. you're a bored wicca housewife.
Anthony Cook
46. It is those that will put you in the way of divine virtue. 47. I swear it by he who has transmitted into our souls the Sacred Quaternion, the source of nature, whose cause is eternal. 48. But never begin to set your hand to any work, until you have first prayed the gods to accomplish what you are going to begin. 49. When you have made this habit familiar to you, 50. You will know the constitution of the Immortal Gods and of men. 51. Even how far the different beings extend, and what contains and binds them together. 52. You shall likewise know that according to Law, the nature of this universe is in all things alike, 53. So that you shall not hope what you ought not to hope; and nothing in this world shall be hidden from you. 54. You will likewise know, that men draw upon themselves their own misfortunes voluntarily, and of their own free choice. 55. Unhappy they are! They neither see nor understand that their good is near them. 56. Few know how to deliver themselves out of their misfortunes. 57. Such is the fate that blinds humankind, and takes away his senses. 58. Like huge cylinders they roll back and forth, and always oppressed with innumerable ills. 59. For fatal strife, natural, pursues them everywhere, tossing them up and down; nor do they perceive it. 60. Instead of provoking and stirring it up, they ought to avoid it by yielding. 61. Oh! Jupiter, our Father! If you would deliver men from all the evils that oppress them, 62. Show them of what daemon they make use. 63. But take courage; the race of humans is divine. 64. Sacred nature reveals to them the most hidden mysteries. 65. If she impart to you her secrets, you will easily perform all the things which I have ordained thee.
Atheism is not the answer. People need a framework for which they can base their ethics on like traditions promoted through epics, festivals and songs which are passed on throughout generations.
66. And by the healing of your soul, you wilt deliver it from all evils, from all afflictions. 67. But you should abstain from the meats, which we have forbidden in the purifications and in the deliverance of the soul; 68. Make a just distinction of them, and examine all things well. 69. Leave yourself always to be guided and directed by the understanding that comes from above, and that ought to hold the reins. 70. And when, after having deprived yourself of your mortal body, you arrived at the most pure Aither, 71. You shall be a God, immortal, incorruptible, and Death shall have no more dominion over you.
There is none. Abortion wasn't really a thing back then and Homosexuality wasn't such a big deal until Christians came along and said it was w̶r̶o̶n̶g̶ only okay if it was their priests touching your children.
Evan Rogers
>which we know already not to be true ??? How can you prove Zeus is not a God who will give salvation to Elysium fields by honoring the virtues and maintaining the oaths?
just a question, are there any actually religious right wing pagans? or are you just people who like nature and folk tales and thats basically it? because ive been to a pagan event once in England but it was all just a bunch of retarded cucks and feminists there.. I like folk tales and nature too but im obviously not retarded enough to actually believe in any of the gods
I take some of my free time as much as I can to learn more and more about the old Greco-Roman Gods and worship them in my own way by being the best version of myself I can, trying my best to be strong and virtuous for my people
He does videos on youtube talking about european paganism is linked to ancient india and China stuff through ancient European civilization and the Jews (christians) did everything to eradicate it's traces.
I mean ancient indo european culture that existed tens of thousands of years ago.
David Anderson
Gayganism is a sin not in the Christian sense. In a sense it is sinning against the self. It is bowing down to something external to the self and spiritually mating with it. Religion works on the weak minded because it is a higher form of thinking than what they have themselves. Strive to be a king.
Jackson Gonzalez
>worship them in my own way by being the best version of myself I can but do you actually believe in them? do you pray to them, perform rituals etc.? If not then why not just follow a philosphy instead, such as platonism? following platonism leads to a very good, disciplined life. I wish I was autistic enough to unironically worship pagan gods but I just cant.
Daniel Rivera
Pagans idea of worship is posting a picture of a viking, saying "Christcuck" or something, and calling it a day. Truly pius. Dumb rune coons don't even know what their ancestors believed, much less their practices, because they did such a shitty job of recording it.
This isn't reddit. If you want a non politics general take it to /his/ or /x/, faggit Sage
Benjamin Perez
None of them truly understand what it's about. Check out Micheal Denney the Thunderwizard.
Evan Hernandez
bowing down to the self understood in this atomistic way as you seem to be implying is an even bigger sin memento mori
Carson Morris
>but do you actually believe in them? do you pray to them, perform rituals etc.? Hard to say, I have conflicting thoughts about it. Who can truly know? The ancients used the Gods to explain what was to them before the unknown, but we have evolved in some of these aspects where science has given explanations, but there are many unexplained things out there. This opposed to Judeo Christians who go to great lengths to deny things and live in blind faith. >If not then why not just follow a philosphy instead, such as platonism? You won't get an entire people to just follow philosophy, it would indeed be ideal but very unrealistic. Most people desire a simple life without delving into complex questions, thoughts and ideologies.
>You won't get an entire people to just follow philosophy, it would indeed be ideal but very unrealistic I think this is very wrong. im not trying to make fun of your beliefs but trying to make people worship pagan gods the same way christians worship jesus or muslims worship allah is just never going to happen. however, to get a society to follow an ubreaken philosophy from one of the greatest minds ever to exist in this world would be a way better alternative. have you ever studied platonism btw? it teaches us all the great virtues we need in our society nowadays (nationalism, discipline, order etc.).
Evan Perez
I did mushrooms with my friends when I went camping a few weekends ago. Hallucinated for the first time and saw Odin appear in the sky. I said hi to him and he just watched me.
Anyone ever hallucinated a god before? I'm not religious but my dad used to read me old Norse tales when I was a kid and old Greek tales.
Luke Roberts
>we need to go back to the beliefs our ancestors gave up, and didn't even care enough about to ever write anything about any of it down Seriously?
