I asked this on /g/ months ago and the response what basically that NPC meme. I asked this on Reddit yesterday and the responses were pretty much "NOOOO, COMAPANIES WILL USE YOUR DATA TO CHECK THEIR RESULTS AND GIVE YOU NEWS THAT YOU AGREE WITH", specially because a lot of answers were butthurst about brexit and trump saying that it makes "election manipulation" and that it "subverts democracy" ( Like democracy is something good, lol).
So i come to ask here again, is "Data collecting/selling" something bad if you're outside of China or is it just a leftist paranoia?
in 2030 nobody will give a fuck if your a pedo, just like how now nobody cares about homosexuals today
Xavier Torres
Stop feeding Flaggots (you)s
Owen Jackson
>We're going to profit off your information >You don't get any of it though
Dominic Allen
And? The baker profits from you buying bread from him, and yet you get no share of it, terrible amirite?
Liam Gonzalez
you signed up for a faceberg account, you made a google account, you use all these free services and expect the profit too? retard
Adrian Gray
The first part makes sense the second part reminds me where I am. Fuck you.
Matthew Reyes
And here we observe the snek in its natural habitat, bootlicking. The snek may proceed to make claims about its love for "freedom" and other such concepts, but once it gets the taste of the boot, it cannot stop itself. It will lick.
Charles Allen
only tyrants oppose privacy
Samuel Edwards
>the government isn't spying on you stop being parinoid This has been public information since 2013.
And what is it doing with my information that affects me negatively? Because apparently i defended governments in my original post? >privacy of things you post publically on the internet
Isaiah Cooper
>The baker profits from you buying bread from him, and yet you get no share of it, You're either incredibly dishonest or total retard
The Baker profits off providing a service and I get a product in return, I willingly pay the baker
If the baker gave me the bread for free then turned around and stole my wallet to sell my ID that would be a fair comparison >you use all these free services They don't provide a subscription based service, nice try
If gladly pay for the service if it meant not having my information stolen
Wyatt Sanders
datamining is going to happen regardless, but companies cannot commit violence on citizens, only governments have permission to do that. leftists express concern at the most meaningless shit while empowering those who can use it for evil
Ayden Robinson
Do you lose your data when companies sell it? No, therefore your comparison is equally retarded.
Sebastian Reyes
The fact you have the information in the first place effects us negatively
>privacy of things you post publically on the internet Nice try, you're stealing account information
Adam Rivera
>Do you lose your data when companies sell it? I don't lose my identity when someone tries to steal it either, it just makes things difficult for a while
The company shouldn't have my data in the first place.
Eli Murphy
Do you lose that account information? No? Then it's not stealing, retard. >The fact you have the information in the first place effects us negatively How exactly? >I don't lose my identity when someone tries to steal it either, it just makes things difficult for a while Difficult how?
Dylan Myers
Well specifically with bulk data collection of all online activities?
They used it to shut down the silk road, something that threatened to vastly reduce street crime, so if you live anywhere near a area with a high level of gang violence you have a pretty direct connection. They use it to keep specifically libertarians out of government positions that require security clearance.
We don't even need to point to the countless examples of our government (or other governments) misusing authority on other programs, we can directly point it out on this congressional act.
Read my original post >is "Data collecting/selling" something bad if you're outside of China I recognize in it that governments can and will do harm with it, i'm asking what's the worse that private companies can do with it, which seems to be what the great majority seem to complain about.
Oliver Peterson
because everyone does stuff one side disagrees with and at some point that side Will be in power in government or in a company. Remember the 4th amendment is NOT to protect the innocent, it’s to protect the “guilty” personal business is personal business, everything is a fucking crime, but the state doesn’t need to know it if it’s not effecting the public space.
Gabriel Jenkins
>because everyone does stuff one side disagrees with and at some point that side Will be in power in government or in a company. Then the problem is a government having authority to fuck me over, not data collecting.
Wyatt Russell
People don't understand the power of information. It's total enslavement of humanity bad potentially, eventually. Or they could just kill us. People pay to give away their fucking DNA.
Nathaniel Smith
These things happened in America. The Silk Road was a website that was founded by Ross Ulbricht, and he was arrested by the US Government on American soil through the bulk data collection programs the US Government approved under the Patriot Act as a counter terrorism measure after 9/11.
These bulk collection programs function by these companies working in corporation with foreign, and domestic governments. You asked for the worst thing they were doing, I provided you two actual examples of things they have done, the latter on many occasions often charging the person with a felony for not being aware of information they'd have no way of even accessing.
Only kikes will blend politics with the privacy issue.
Intel-aviv hardware has native backdoors to watch you.
Goygle spams partners in anything, jewtube is a chesspit of propaganda and degeneration.
Good goym will give privacy for alleged security but that's another jewish charade.
The jew looks at you in every way possible to jew you and sell any single kind of shit he can to grow your debt.
You're either a retarded zoomer or a kike shill, OP
Aaron Ward
>my question "What can companies do?" >your answer "the government can..." Let me repeat once more: I haven't said, nor doubted in any way shape or form that the government can do harm with it. I'm asking what bad private companies can do with it.
>"The jew looks at you in every way possible to jew you and sell any single kind of shit he can to grow your debt." >I buy things from the jew willingly, therefore the fault in on the jew for seeling me those
Ian Miller
YOUR data as an individual is inconsequential, as more and more people get piled into the data set, you may then discern patterns, in addition, even if you did not participate, it again is pointless, you stand out, because you're not a part the data set, meta data can also be used to track you, by looking at those that interact with the person you have no data on, it's a cyberpunk as fuck catch 22, if you use VPNs, you stand out, if it's open and you're a chan weirdo you stand out, if you're just a run of the mill weirdo you stand out, if you speak out, you stand out, nigga we fucked.
Grayson Howard
You are messing the point. We Assume the government is corrupt, but the best we can do is limit the tools and power it has to enforce that corruption. >not the problem It is exactly the problem from an Anglo point of view. Maybe you should go back to a continental government and site and turn off your meme flag
Parker Lee
The government wouldn't have a reason to fuck you up if they weren't privy to the fact you like your gay anal dildoes to be purple and shaped like a space-age dragon dick.
Fuck off, anti-privacy kike shill. You niggers always want to pretend it's no big deal but simultaneously want complete opacity when it comes to what government does. People like you need to be exterminated like the threat you are. Nigger.
Ryan Baker
>Do you lose that account information? I lose the privacy and right to keep my own information safe >How exactly? How does having my personal information in the hands of someone I don't know effect me negatively, are you joking? It effects me negatively because my personal information is being sold without my consent It effects me negatively because it's not yours to take >Difficult how? Let's see I have to make sure my credit card aren't used I have to make sure my passport isn't used by someone who isn't me I have to take the time to clear up any thing that could have been done with my information
You're such a rat piece of shit
Luke Cook
Good luck (((feds))) I'm behind 7 ssl proxies
Jack Barnes
>but the best we can do is limit the tools and power it has to enforce that corruption So i assume you want to ban guns? OK, but do you actually lose anything material or is it just spooks? >It effects me negatively because my personal information is being sold without my consent >It effects me negatively because it's not yours to take And what bad harm does it does to you? >Let's see I have to make sure my credit card aren't used >I have to make sure my passport isn't used by someone who isn't me >I have to take the time to clear up any thing that could have been done with my information Strawmen? Really?
Gavin Anderson
>I'm asking what bad private companies can do with it. Sell it too people for one? It's my persobal information you like rat. It's not yours to do anything with
>I buy things from the jew willingly Except Google and Facebook are both free services.
>We don't offer you an ability to pay a subscription but don't you dare complain we take your information with out your consent
Daniel Walker
Ban government guns sure, not private citizens
Mason Green
Are you forced to use google or facebook? The rest of your post is just "muh informashun" So you agree with me we might as well just ban the government altogheter and not have to worry about it?
Ryan Turner
>but do you actually lose anything material Its irellevant if its material or not. Its my information
>And what bad harm does it does to you It.Isnt.Yours.
>Strawmen? Really Answering a question you asked is a straw man? Nice try rat You're so dishonest its disgusting
Jeremiah Martin
>Are you forced to use google or facebook Are you forced to be a straight up liar?
>The rest of your post is just "muh information" Yea, that's what we're talking about you dishonest kike rat
You're a dishonest asshole. Really. I'm positive that almost all "ancaps" online are actually shitlib shills trying to stir up shit. Nothing you've posted here dissuades me from this opinion.
it starts getting bad once a totalitarian government uses this for surveillance of the populace. you know like lefties hunting down lolberts on the internet.
> gadsen flag thought you guys were against government surveillance
Blake Brown
>Pointing out a flag while hiding his >Being this pathetic Sad.
Connor Ward
>be libertarian >protect private property with your life >stand up against the government treading >corporation comes along and sells your most important property to anyone wanting it - including the government >totally fine with said corporation selling your property and treading on you because at least they're not the government This is why I couldn't continue being a lolbertarian anymore - your hypocracy is stunning in that you will allow corporations to tread all over you, that you let big business get away with shit you'd never tolerate from a government. Lolberts are just as mentally ill as totalitarian leftists.
Jonathan Phillips
Try using your imagination and make some examples of companies using data in ways that may negatively impact you.
Juan Ross
big business doesn't have a monopoly on force like the government does you fucking retard
Big business can sell MY personal property to a government that does have a monopoly on force, mongoloid. As I said - you're mentally ill, living in cognitive dissonance.
Why are you fine with corporations selling my private property without my consent?
William Kelly
>corporations selling my private property without my consent They can't. That's against the law.
Jayden Scott
lobby your precious government to stop them if you care so much
Noah Morgan
Fuck off back to plebbit and stay there you cunt.
Juan Moore
But they literally do - they "create" a dossier on me from MY actions, locations, associations, and other personal intellectual property. Lolberts are funny in that they're cool with this theft.
Grayson Murphy
>If he isn't for corporations treading on him, then he must want the government to tread on him Stay classy with your false dichotomies and cognitive dissonance, lolbert.
Thomas Ward
>literally Try reading those pesky Terms of Service contracts before you accept them. If you don't like what they say, why are you giving them your consent?
Adam Thomas
Lefties loved it when Obongo had the NSA start spying on everything we do. Lefties love putting the details of their entire lives on Cuckbook for the world to see. But if google tracks their web use for ad purposes they're all MUH PRIVACY REEEEE! Just more fake outrage by the commies to create anti-corporate (capitalist) hatred.
Brody Rodriguez
Dread pirate roberts got caught because he fucked up his opsec you ninny
Aaron Wilson
corporations cannot tread, they don't have the authority. you've gone in my 'faggot' dossier btw, not that i expect to profit from this information
Sebastian Campbell
>Cool with property theft as long as it is a corporation >Muh contracts A, I shouldn't have to hire a lawyer to use the internet. Get real, lolbert.
B, The vast majority of people on these sites were never told of this because those terms changed well after they agreed to the old terms
C, quit acting like it is cool to steal IP simply because a different contract from the current one was agreed to in the past
Mason Lewis
>admitting you're too stupid to read Suit yourself, user.
Since you faggots hate the government so much, consider the following: The government can send a guy to your house, unannounced and without a warrant, to observe your day to day activities. You allowed it yourself when you signed a contract for your electricity. And to top it off, this guy's sends his notes to other governments so they can know what you're doing. Maybe it's not that bad right? At least I can get some nice ads!
