Why can't the right stand up to any critical evaluation or scrutiny?

Capitalism isn't a form of government. Next argument please.

communist countries are shitholes
majority non-white countries are shitholes

The secret formula for a functioning society seems to be obvious.

>Lots of people die of wanting in africa
Which is overrun by socialism AND is the beneficiary of global charity and aid. Apparently you can drink money.

capitalism killed billions and continues to grow

you don't care about human or animal lives, you only care about being anti communist. retard.

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Except that there's literal proof that different ethnicities have differences that are more than skin deep
>Bone marrow compatibility
>Circulatory system reaction to heat changes
>Bone structure
>Susceptibility to various illnesses
The very visceral reaction that the left has to even ATTEMPT to make a study about this to give the reason to one side or another is telling.
>Surplus value
Monetary value is always subjective. Also, you underestimate the amount of work that the capitalist employs. True, the ultrarich can even delegate this, but even a libertarian will tell you there need to be some checks and balances against capitalism devolving into plutocracy. That doesn't mean the State should get involved into literally everything.

Additionally, you fail to understand why communism fails. Communism fails because its very guiding principle "everyone working selflessly towards the whole group's benefit" goes against our very animal nature, and the need for an all-encompassing State opens mass opportunities for tyrants and power cliques to emerge. On the other hand, capitalism works on "everyone working for their own interest but playing within certain rules" which is far more in line towards our egotistic nature as animals. In other words: for Communism to perfectly work, everyone would need to be a saint; for Capitalism, everyone just needs to be honest and respectful of the other's property-they can be greedy, lustful, envious, lazy, etc.

(((Academic Sources)))

Fuck off Leaf

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Labor theory of value is out of favor dog. Everyone realizes value and transactions are entirely subjective. Carl menger raped the commies with marginal utility theory

see
yawn, capitalism built your device, supplies your power and internet.

>based peruvian

Have you ever fallen asleep in a canoe?

fer cryin out loud, communism has killed millions upon millions. Mao murdered well north of 100 million. As for abusing the environment, they are again the outright champions.

Those were criminally underrated.

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Capitalism saved billions. Btw how is it capitalisms fault that people in africa die of malaria? Is it americas responsibility to take care of another continent across the sea?

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>muh subjectivity
This is completely irrelevant to the LTV

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I thought Communism was a good idea until I spoke to actual Communists and started asking questions they refused to answer.
Fag.

Looks like the shills are back. Are you all done crying over Bernie getting blown the fuck out once again?

Everything supplying your capitalist built computer is because of capitalism, the power, the internet, send smoke signals for your next reply please.

>Capitalism saved billions
How come Poland, Ukraine and Russia are poor as shit? How come people want communism back over there?

The labor theory of value is irrelevant because marginal utility blows it the fuck out and it was based on subjective views of value

Point to one communist nation that didn't go fill corruption instantly, you just replaced one tyrant with another. USSR oh we're not tzars but let me control everything from the top down. Every communist nation was a dictatorship that purged their own people; holodemor , great leap forward and so on.

Now watch faggot op not replying to me cause he can't win!

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because im bigger than you

kys

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What are you trying to get at? I doubt you even understand what that means.

>how come countries under former soviet dictatorship who were living through literal brainwashing want communism again? Check mate!

>capitalism built your device, supplies your power and internet.
You are a retard.
Do you really think you're saying anything new that hasn't been debunked?
This must be your first day on the internet. You are a retard.

go ahead and ask your questions in good faith and i'll answer. but expect to change your mind.

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Anyone who works in a form of maintenance career is considered a worthless parasite by the labor theory of value.

More variation within than out.

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Good.

it's actually worst

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Academic sources tell you communism is bad. You are indoctrinated from a young age to fear the ""red menace"". You are shown graphic depictions of death and famine under a ruthless dictatorship and that must be why socialism is a bad ideology to consign yourself to. All to keep the lop-sided status quo from crumbling underneath the capitalist's feet.

I care about progress. Improvement. Not keeping parasites alive to they can multiply.

So is communism

Who do you think created and funded the capital needed for those laborers to be productive?

>worthless parasite
Capitalists and the rightoid scum who defend them are the only economic parasites.

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That still made the things you use.

If the labour theory of value is true then how come Bernie didn't win? I mean, he and his supporters put in hour after hour of work

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Thats literally a fallacy word for word that you are citing

You are living 20 years in the past. School books have changed in favor of the Communists, you are the culture and we are the counterculture

Wow, that was a hell of a way to dodge my thesis like a total coward.

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You don't even though what capitalism is. You're trashing corporatism

the right has built empires that withstood centuries, even millennia
all destroyed by the left within a small fraction of that time, sometimes a single generation
source: any fucking history book

Fuck you, commie bastard!

Nope. I just happened to listen to actual commies' requests and studied a bit of university-level Biology (ended up dropping out because I have limits on how much I can memorize, but I still learned a lot of useful information)
>Picture
Except that without rich people paying various engineers to improve the design over and over (or engineers inventing the design and then selling it) there wouldn't be the idea of a smartphone to begin with. Without offering a job, providing the necessary machinery and giving the proper orders, those workers wouldn't be able to create the smartphone.

>critical anything

quit using commie terms

The capitalist system includes both the workers and the businessmen, and they made the phone.

>m-muh Lewontin's fallacy
The guy who coined the term never even disagreed with Lewontin.

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If you love communism so much go get a tapeworm

>Why can't the right stand up to any critical evaluation or scrutiny?
Why can communist countries stand up at all?

Coming from the side that thinks it makes sense to let 10 year old boys cut their dicks off because they feel weird.

Alt-right is less mentally fucked than liberals wow, good for us

With communism the only things that changes is that the communist party is the one taking the surplus value.
Also the whole ball shrinks because your new bosses are not as efficient at finding what work is worth doing because the state has no competition.

>you don’t know what to do
Except do a shit ton of benzos

>...and by 'critical evaluation' I mean completely rewriting history

Why can't Communist countries have food?

>laborers to be productive
Nobody needs capitalism to be productive.
You are a retard.

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Anyone got the comic of the guy saying "Hoe come you get most of the money if I do all the work" to a business owner after he explains all the trouble he had to go through to start his business?

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Ironically most of the places those things are occurring in are socialist. Great take fucking brainlet. Next.

> asserts that everything you are saying has already been debunked
> doesn't actually debunk anything
Well played faggot

>source: my ass

If communism is so good, why has it murdered and destroyed everything it touches, and hasn't been implemented successfully once in history of the world?
Checkmate, schlomo.

>You don't even though what capitalism is. You're trashing corporatism
You are a retard.

>The capitalist system
Destroy capitalism and the workers will be free. EZ.
You are a retard.

You are a retard.

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Yawn..
Irrelevant to the observed phenotypical trends, do you know anything about DNA? It isn't % of gene variation that matters, it is which specific genes are different and what that actually means in organism physical expression.

>laborers need this mystical thing called capital to be productive
this is your brain on capitalism

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That's not an argument.

Source: reality. No one is dying of hunger in ANY modern western country. Period. Next.

I can only imagine the type of person who would come to Yas Forums of all places and post that garbage unironically.
>stonetoss is a nazi
Fucking really? Get the fuck out of here.

Anyone who believes in labor theory of value is considered a worthless parasite by God himself

Of course they need. Humans aren't fundamentally good: they are fundamentally coded to try and spread their genes forward (at least those in non-decadent societies do), which means in our society to accumulate wealth to be able to raise a family. If you are going to be paid no matter how good is your work, most people are going to do the bare minimum. If doing the bare minimum risks you getting fired and doing good makes you potentially get promoted, you are going to work more because you can see that you are going to get a benefit from it.
Again, you're relying on people being saints.

If your value is more than your boss pays you, you can always work for someone else, or for yourself. Get what you deserve.
But if you don't feel like paying taxes just so some lazy niggers can raise their 14 children, you don't have a choice.

I can tell you've never been east of Berlin you fucking commie

The biggest critics of communism literally come from ex-soviet states you absolute weapon

Explain to me why i shouldnt se any difference between a lambo and a 18 wheeler just because theres more variation within cars like pick up trucks and lambos and formula one racing card than between a lambo and a truck. Please explain why we still differentiate those but we arent allowed to differentiate races. After all, theres more differences within than between!

post a pic with a quote and a baby crying, that will make the people you don't like look like stupid kids

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Why can commies never into basic economics?

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Yes.

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>BROOOOOOO
>YOUR A WERARD BROO
>IMM INTELLEKTEUAL UR RETARD
>DUUUUDEE BERNIE DUDE
>Y THINGS COST MONEE U RETARDD!?!?!

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To be a leftist you literally have to scramble your brain to think consensual and coerced mean the same thing. You guys are retards.

Please go dig a ditch with a spoon while competing with a company using dirt movers and shovels and then tell me how capital is unecessary

All Communists believe I’m Communism until you ask them if that means they’ll take a share of the responsibility for the welfare of humanity and realize it means they need to actually contribute as well.

Who would win ?
> Bunch of books written by people living of state wages
> Reality

>School books have changed
No they haven't. You are still entreated to conservative and nationalistic values. The advent of the internet has changed the playing field. Of readily accessible information contrary to the prevailing thought the ruling class wants to imbibe into your brain.

Yas Forums is a nationalistic hivemind bent on chaos. You are anything but counterculture. Just a group of contrary trolls spouting Nazism.

>it is which specific genes are different and what that actually means in organism physical expression.
You're talking out of your ass. The same alleles can be found all across the world

Most of these stats comes from Africa which are mostly capitalistic countries, nice try retard

>he biggest critics of communism literally come from ex-soviet states
>Back in the USSR: 64 per cent of Russians say life was better in the Soviet Union than now
>Respondents in oil-rich Azerbaijan - run by authoritarian president Ilham Aliyev who succeeded his father Heydar Aliyev - gave a crushing verdict with 69 per cent saying life was better in the USSR.
>In Armenia, the figure was even higher, 71 per cent.
>In Ukraine, which has seen some of the greatest economic hardship and political turmoil since 1991, around 60 per cent of the over 35s saw life as better back in the USSR.
>In Belarus, the most Soviet-like of the European states of the former USSR, where even the secret police retain the KGB acronym, some 53 per cent still preferred life under Moscow's rule.
>And in Kazakhstan, where dictator Nursultan Nazarbayev employed Tony Blair as a consultant, three in five of the older 35s preferred life under Soviet rule.
express.co.uk/news/world/701026/russians-life-better-soviet-union-ussr-sixty-four-percent

How does it feel to face reality?

>When you make your healthcare the business of government,
what you eat for breakfast,
how many steps you take today, how many hours you spend inside, or outside,
or having sex,
>all of these things effect your health, so your whole life is now the business of bureaucrats. cause we're not going to pay to keep you healthy if you're just gonna go make yourself sick.
or if we think you're just not worth enough.

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>the workers just magically had materials and instructions and tools to put together the product that can only be manufactured with the consent of the owner of the intellectual property. The capitalist clearly didnt do anything

>idk what capital means so im gonna call it mystical and pretend it doesnt exist