What does Yas Forums think about Eckhart Tolle?

Eckart Tolle is the epitome of being based. Dude speaks the truth.

read Rene Guenon instead

Just another Oprah-tier neospiritualist mystic salesman selling peace of mind in the world where God is dead. That said, he did start me on my spiritual path with A New Earth.

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another new age scam artist.

Brainwashed psychotic hippie.

Based as fuck.

>Distilling Eastern/Western spirituality in a practical way that can be applied to every day life.
Nothing new age about it.
files.shroomery.org/cms/6584522-EckhartTolle-ThePowerOfNow.pdf

preaches about the evils of ego, buys a jaguar with all the money he has made from all the mentally ill left winger suckers who follow him. at least they *mindlessly* follow him though. thats a break through, right?

You can't be humble and drive a nice car?

Pretty sure it's Buddhism lite, without 20-minutes long story just to tell what could be said in a simple sentence. It never gets specific enough in his first book ("The Power of Now"), but it gives you some good ideas and is worth reading. Is the second book worth reading? I found other stuff after the first one, I didn't feel that he'd have all that much more to offer.

Probably unrelated, but I would recommend looking into the Wim Hof method (it's basically a form of structured breathing that results in successively lower blood oxygen levels, making the body react to the "danger" by changing your chemistry in various ways that you couldn't easily do otherwise). Not the same thing, but at least it gives scientifically tested and proved benefits, is more hands-on, and over time also lets you use it to meditate better as well for example. It's not an alternative to anything Eckhart says, just something I was into before and more after, because it's something that you actually do with your body and feel real results from. The ideas Eckhart present are good, but he gives you no immediate way of achieving most of what he talks about.

>A New Earth
Is it worth reading?

Well, the only idea you really need to get here is the one about the observer of your mind. That's really the key useful part of what he says. How he personally handles various things isn't really relevant. He just brings you that insight (if you didn't already have it), and beyond that you should really be thinking about it more internally, than accepting any specific teaching.

No.
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.

He should give that sweater away, too. It's too nice. Once he runs around in a potato sack, he's fully enlightened.

I don't know who has the wrong idea of enlightenment. The new age nonsense seems wrong. Maybe living like Diogenes, in a barrel, is wrong, too. Better commit suicide. That's the most minimal way one can exist.

What is enlightenment?

It basically just goes into the nature of the "ego." It was my first step into...The Way.
Alan Watts "The Book" changed everything though. That's when shit got real.
4-5 years later and the transformation I've gone through is incredible.

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Yeah, stuff like that is why I haven't looked into Buddhism extensively for example. I keep getting bored of it too fast, it contradicts itself all the time which makes it tiresome to try to take seriously.

A question I had goes something like this (if this reads as confused, you're god damn right I'm confused): If I've got it right, Buddhism (or some schools, at least) teaches that all of existence only exists because/when you observe it [insert vague reference to science here], the goal being to meditate until you experience only the nothing (forgot the terminology, but you get it). All other individuals, for all intents and purposes, aren't real. Or they're you (because of the soul of creation or whatever - again, names). So if you're bad to another individual, that individual doesn't exist, but also he's you, and so you should be kind to everyone.. because.. karma?

But if this is all a dream projected much like what we would see a normal dream, as in, it exists only because we make it exist, then what is karma? If this is all just me making shit up, or us collectively, originally one soul/being/energy, making it up, then why shouldn't a Buddhist do whatever he wanted in this playground that we call "reality"? If we make it up, why not avoid the whole karma thing as well? I don't get it.

Too many contradictions, and all of the "teachers" are gatekeeping the fuck out of anything useful because it's all aimed at the intellectual level of some streetshitter, so the reasoning is that you can't know the secrets because they're secret, but also you wouldn't understand so they can't tell you, so that's why they can't tell you (for, again, no reason, because if you couldn't understand anyway, what's the harm)?

I read one of his books about 10 years ago when I was locked up.

It was ego and why it's bad to identify with things... It made a really good case against identity politics even though it had nothing to do with politics.

con artist just like all the rest, but i can respect anyone who can run a good old scam and remove money from retards

oprah.com/own-a-new-earth/dont-mistake-your-role-with-your-identity-video

how'd you end up with evola though

Are you that guy with the telegram group? There's too much stuff, man. Got to zip that shit up, or it's just too much to take in in any structured manner. So should I read another Eckhart Tolle book, or go straight to "The Book"?

Also, can you describe any of your "transformation", as in how it has affected you?

Props. His book helped me through divorce.

“When someone seeks to understand Buddhism, where should that person start: With the
meaning of taking refuge in the three jewels? With the four noble truths? The Dalai Lama,
when asked this question, suggested that for many in the West today, understanding the
Two Truths, conventional truth and ultimate truth, is the best place to start.”

buddhism seeks a middle way. What you describe is nihlism, where as the way seeks to go beyond it and eternalism. There are various schools, one stating that the self is a composite of the six senses for example, but one closer to reality is held by the prasangikas, that there exists a youness, and anonness, a meness, a suchness, a conceptual conventional reality that is existent in a way but not ultimately. I am a self in flux, though there is no true basis of idenity (atman), only the correlation of factors.

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How is he 72 years old?

Unbelievablely based. He is right about life and helped changed my life. And I’ve had some spiritual experiences as well because of him. I got into Aurelius , Neo platonists because of him

Listened to and read all his stuff. Can confirm he is a faggot. He basically rips off the gifts of christ and tries to repackage them for sale. My IQ is over 156 so please dont respond to me with anything other than complete agreement

"Death is not the opposite of life. Life has no opposite. The opposite of death is birth. Life is eternal."

The aim of Buddhism as I understand it (keep in mind I’m not a Buddhist but I did take a class on it in school and at least paid attention) is to not produce ANY karma. Neither good nor bad. Do not harm anyone because that produces bad karma and you’ll be punished by regression in the next life and don’t seek out to do amazing things either because you’ll progress to be Angel or maybe a god and it would in only be for the ego anyway which is a projection. Anything produces more focus and more problems or dharma. Keep in mind there are MANY schools of Buddhism and seek their support an end a little. Plato and neo plantonists and early Christians touched on some of these issues and I think Mesiter Eckhart and Proclus expresses it better.

I don't know what telegram you're talking about, only thing I run that people might recognize is a politigram page.
I will say that my early HS years I experimented with psychedelics. I had an absolutely earth-shattering experience that scared the fuck out of me. Around the same time, I was handed "A New Earth." I read it and it all kinda made sense. So I kept reading more, ended up reading Alan Watts "The Book." Then it all fell into place. I know there's a stigma against drug use of any kind here so I'll just say that my next psychedelic experience gave me a, in the words of Evola, a "resounding certainty." An "Ahh...I get it now" moment when I pondered the nature of nonduality. From this point onward was when I became redpilled. I struggled for 1-2 years how to reconcile all of these things I read about with my spirituality. Race realism, hierarchy, warrior spirit, an aristocratic government, etc. Then when in the midst of a crisis, someone responded to my thread saying "Revolt Against the Modern World."
I read it. And it once again all came together. It was if I was reading a book perfectly tailored to my path, answering every question and confusion I had. How is it that the Hindus believed in a nondualistic "God" and universal oneness yet also had the caste system? These sort of apparent contradictions. He answered all of this. And since reading, 2-3 years ago, I have only delved deeper. But this is my testimony and I'll leave it at that.

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Thats what I think of him.

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>I had an absolutely earth-shattering experience that scared the fuck out of me.
Care to share it, or too personal?

> How is it that the Hindus believed in a nondualistic "God" and universal oneness yet also had the caste system?

It’s been some years since I’ve read evola —what did he say again? I’m not against responsible non abusive drug use user, as you did. It can really help some people.

Literally just read his book, pretty based and recommended

His book is egomaniac deterant

In short, it started with a little "trip party" with my friends. Except I went a completely different route. I started seeing the nature of time and watched it move backwards. Unexplainable things. But this all came to a climax when reality broke and I was gazing into the abyss, almost as if a studio audience sat behind me and laughed. "This is what you wanted, isn't it? This is the 'truth' you wanted to see in using these drugs." This was then followed by seeing the physical world as it truly is...utterly base and devoid of any real personality. The ego is that which adds "flavor" and "life" into the world before us. Well that was wiped out for me and I saw the physical world as it really is. I saw these strange hairless physical organisms that were my friends talking, speaking amongst each other as only conditioned reactions against sophisticated stimuli. I saw the animalistic nature of this reality. They were no longer "Jake" and "Dylan" but just fleshy organisms. This was accompanied by a fear that not even your parents can mend, for they are stuck in it too. I saw the Hellscape that we are in for what it really is.

I was able to put this in perspective as I delved deeper into "mysticism." Eckhart kinda showed me that what I know as reality is just the ego's flavoring as I said, but he only gives a small breadcrumb typical of the new-agers that appropriate aspects of eastern religions to give a feelgood backdrop the the modern hippie's drug experience.
Alan Watts showed me that this reality is all really an illusion of the ego.
>youtube.com/watch?v=fcPWU59Luoc
He showed me the true meaning of the Yin/Yang symbol. That everything we see before us is not a fixed "difference" but carries an implicit unity. We know hot in opposition to everything "not-hot". Hot depends on cold to exist yet it appears as separate phenomena. In the same way we make endless categorizations. We know Dog from everything not-dog.

But Evola brought it all full circle to a political level. Showing how this all fits into a society and political organism. How despite us all deriving from the same oneness, things like racial spirit, hierarchy, all of these things matter. It is the drama of life that is playing out. And that we truly are in the midst of the Kali-Yuga, for the new-agers can never quite explain why in this modern "peaceful" age, man is more discontented than he's ever been. And that we are merely in the midst of a cycle. And the truth is that the heroic qualities of ancient civilizations are what gave life true meaning, a reason to live and persevere. Without these traditions, life is not worth living. The world where God is dead.
At this point, I believe that there are only two routes to go. Flow with the cycle in a sort of Taoist acceptance of the decay that we find ourselves in, preparing to stand as men among the ruins, or fight against it with the utmost fury. The latter seems more unrealistic as the days go by.

ugh i wish i could dabble in some mushrooms but have no access

Have a (You). I went to a therapist that my friend recommended to me. One of the first things he said basically boiled down to "our life has meaning because all living things are connected. All made out of the same basic materials". Babbys first buddhist shit. It really is amazing that people can say this and not realize how they are refuting their own point. If I were to believe that I was disconnected; an atomized creature who was cursed with consciousness to live out its days knowing what awaits us all...my life is actually more meaningful ironically enough. Its a shit meaning but it has more "oomph" to it than knowing all is void. I really don't know how to deal with it. The world, reality, nature or whatever you want to call it just is. Theres nothing I can do about that. I never asked to be here yet I am here. I used to think that I needed to just live in accordance with nature. But i have a human nature. I live in the human drama. I have to learn to care about the human drama.

Hmm - this is interesting, but maybe the drug experience helped fast-track you to it. I will try the Wim Hof breathing, and then to meditate on it. However, I lack knowledge of the best way to meditate, if there is such a way.

Is it just sitting and entertaining no thought, being in the now? I can do this, it helps when I want to sleep. Funny story, or not really because it's extremely short and lacks any actual point, but in some museum thing (whatever you call it, museum but with activities) there was a thing that measured brain activity in a rather crude manner (strapped around the head, two electrodes at the front). Whoever "thought less" (generated less activity in the frontal lobe I guess) would push a ball from the middle, to the opponent's side, and win. I could easily win every time, and switching sides made no difference. This was, coincidentally, after I had read The Power of Now (most of it on the train trip there). I just looked at nothing in particular, and imagined nothing. If thought forms arrived, I gave them no energy, and so they went away on their own. It's pretty relaxing for the brain (although I'm not sure it's to any real benefit).

I don't know enough to express it as you did, but from your two options, I'd think that accepting reality as it is, and trying your best to improve it in the ways that you can, would be the only real option. You could aim to become some sort of leader, but for that I've given up before I've even started. I think to become a real leader/"guru"/good example or what have you, you mustn't want to become one in the first place, either. It likely has to happen organically, and so until you find yourself in such a situation, I think there's little you can do but make your peace with it.

>most of it on the train trip there
(Not to the museum, to the city that it was in, visiting someone)

Cool it with the ephilistic nihilism. Moan and groan all you want, we are here regardless, so what do we do now? What can we learn from history that can possibly give humanity as a whole a better way to live? A better mode of being? I remember some faggot saying that the answer is to work collectively on building a machine that will annihilate the universe and thus the suffering of human existence. You are a fool if you think that you won't find yourself back here one way or another. Maybe not on these terms, or this manifestation, but you will exist again. So what do we do? This is the true question truly posed to us today.

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as based as they come

>I think to become a real leader/"guru"/good example or what have you, you mustn't want to become one in the first place, either. It likely has to happen organically, and so until you find yourself in such a situation
True wisdom here fren. We are in a next level hellscape and this is hard for people to swallow. And yes, the drug experience was absolutely essential for me reaching this conclusion and i will not deny that. Take that as you will. But it was like a cosmic slap in the face. I was too deep into my atheistic nihilism and there was honestly no other way I could come to this. This is just my experience report I am sharing as I find myself in this thread. So I am sharing.

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That you're a faggot who needs a ban for making shit slide threads

Never expected to see a thread about him on Yas Forums. When much younger, in my early 20's, I was disillusioned with society, culture, and religious institutions, and came across one of his videos on YouTube while searching for lectures about the nature of consciousness. Something he was saying resonated with me. I began to practice mediation, working on inner peace, trying to shed my ego. That kind of stuff. I think Eckhart Tolle is an adequate introduction into spirituality, especially if you never heard of ego consciousness, if you are neurotic, if you have trouble silencing the voice in your head. Meditation will help you slow down the incessant idle chatter that is the background noise in the mind of nearly everyone.

Personally, however, I was unable to see this all as an endpoint. I see it as quite insufficient for navigating through the real world. I mean, imagine if our entire society was soft-spoken, slow moving people like him, our society would be very quickly overtaken by inferior, more aggressive cultures. Of course, Tolle and other like him would say this is the ego talking, but it seems like an unwillingness to admit that evil really does exist. Any philosophy which doesn't allow for the existence of evil is suicidal in the long term.

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Hum of insects exploding into the nervous laughter
Of the crustacean gods behind the divine computer
That tricks us with its bogus simulacra
To think we live in space and in biology

A world where Kanye West sees
Even his mind-broke reality smashed
Watching Kim’s famous tits and ass
Turn into elegant elves giggling at their coffee klatch

Wim might be a bit long-winded in this video, but I enjoy doing this: youtu.be/nzCaZQqAs9I?t=121 (there's a related video with a more direct count). You don't need to do the cold exposure thing (not mentioned in this video, but part of the "method"), trying the breathing once should tell you whether you might want to try it more or not. His place, the music etc. may seem a bit.. well, anyway, there's no spirituality involved, it's really just the breathing exercises, cold exposure, and that's about it. A basic breakdown would be: breathe in and out ~30 times (watch video for an idea of how, not fully out, not really at a specific pace - you'll know what he means to breathe towards if you try it), last time, take a breath, let it out (don't push it/fully) and hold until you feel that you need to breathe. Should be about a minute first, at least. Then you do it two more times or so, if you want to (three times is recommended because the oxygen level gets lower every time you hold your breath at the end, measured).

As I said earlier, it stresses the body and it reacts in various ways, but in good ones. Over-breathing all the time isn't good, but this is very controlled. There's a bunch of actual studies that they've done on it, and more are in the peer-review phase apparently, so it's not just hocus-pocus either. A tip might be to listen to what he says in the video with regards to breathing: lower lung/belly, top/middle and head. The head part, I didn't really get before I had tried it a few times. You have to actively do it, and I can't really describe how, but somehow you can get noticeably more oxygen in your head (per breath) if you imagine it going up there. Almost like it's breathing, as he says - kind of weird, but it seems to work.

I've got to go, anyway. I'll bookmark and read any replies/additional posts tomorrow. Thanks for sharing stuff, I will try to read the three books listed earlier in order.

read en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita

>How is it that the Hindus believed in a nondualistic "God" and universal oneness yet also had the caste system? These sort of apparent contradictions. He answered all of this.

What were his answers? I'm very curious. And which books did he answer the questions? I will read them, if you tell me.

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Cunt destroyer.

>Alan Watts
is a literal retard and anyone that reads his kikery is a retard too. kys retard