Fate

>Fate
>Mahouka
>Raildex

Modern magic settings are super popular, so why aren't they used more often in isekai series? Have a modern world with magic and elves, this could be even more appealing than Fate.

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Because all 3 required a certain amount of works and autism to craft an interesting world. Kamachi (Raildex) went full on modern occult history with quite an amount of reading necessary to get all of it.
Meanwhile, Nasu is a full-on fa/tg/uy with years of doing worldbuilding with modern settings, not to mention all of Servant stat are not recognized as actual skills and level in-universe but a representation of their capabilities.
All of these required more works than the amount your average isekai writer and reader willing to spend on their wish-fulfillment fantasy.

That shit requires talent and autism. Isekai writers have one of the two and it isn't talent.

There are few decent isekai series out there. Like Shinju no Nectar. And that one is actually using WW1 like fantasy.

It requires some modicum of thought put into it, which is already too much for most isekai writers

It's quite funny when you realize almost all isekai basically started as shitty online fanfics written by complete amateurs.

>magic
>elves

Cliched shit won’t read/10

It's pretty hard to make urban fantasy settings because of suspension of disbelief. You need to explain existence of elves, magic. Rules. What about all history? WW2/WW1 with elves? What about all lore? Nasuverse has explanation even how you to cast spells. It's like creating own table top RPG settings a-la WoD

A lot of LN authors go full autism over rules of their setting. Just look at Index magic.

These stories had lots of buildup and development for years isekai stories are just wish fulfilment stories

There's a Fate manga where the MC get isekai'd back to world war two. Fate Redline or something.

Those all have settings so autistic they border on science fantasy. Isekai writers are 99% hack retards and the ones who aren't are just novel writers with no manga.

There are good authors and hacks, most isekai writers are hacks, Nasu is an incarnation of autism who made his setting more interesting than his porn, and Mahouka and Index authors are possibly robots.

Cheap isekai authors will never get close as they already took the easy route for their settings

re:creators maybe

Yas Forums really can't stop seething about isekai

The secret ingredient is a well developed tsundere heroine

Jesus Christ don't remind me.

It's not an isekai you dingus it's time travel

>Modern magic settings are super popular
No, they aren't. There's a reason all those series you described are ten+ years old. They're a holdover from when it was popular.

>people saying urban fantasy is hard and requires writing skill
Are you all thirteen? Do you not remember the giant heaps of absolute low effort urban fantasy copy-pastes being churned out for years and years with the Shana clones and then the IS clones? I will not let you sit there and tell me that Shikabane-hime, Rental Magica, Ga-Rei, Hidan no Aria, Isuca, Absolute Duo, Rakudai, Asterisk, etc., etc. required any kind of real creativity or effort for their settings.

For fuck's sake, half the same authors who used to write urban fantasy back then are currently writing isekai and/or RPG-style-fantasy. You're all crazy.

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I still don’t understand it.

But you see, none of those are good and none are science fantasy, just outright fantasy or sci fi. By comparison Mahouka is so fucking autistic that you can have a compiler error when casting spells that takes 6 pages to fully explain.

>Do you not remember the giant heaps of absolute low effort urban fantasy copy-pastes being churned out for years and years with the Shana clones and then the IS clones?
> I will not let you sit there and tell me that Shikabane-hime, Rental Magica, Ga-Rei, Hidan no Aria, Isuca, Absolute Duo, Rakudai, Asterisk, etc., etc. required any kind of real creativity or effort for their settings.
What the fuck are you talking about? They don't have good settings at all. They don't have anything close to Nasuverse world or Index

It's actually really simple, refine life force and then do an action, it will cause a reaction. If it's a reaction you want, write it down so you can replicate it. As a shortcut, you can follow the steps other people have taken when you want the same results. ie: if you want to fly, you can make some props of glue and feathers and channel magic so long as you stay away from the sun.

Okay, but these crappy stories were the hottest trend on the block for ages. So whatever you're arguing about autistic settings clearly isn't necessary for a modern magic series to be popular.

Faggot Fate is more popular than ever.

I think urban fantasy works best when it's just a few weird magic things happening in a city. No elves and stuff, just a few oddballs doing magic occult shit amongst their secret hidden community, or doing it in the night in hidden locations, while the rest of the city carries on as normal. Stuff like that

That doesn't even scratch the surface of raildex autism, hell that's the basics. The real test of autism is explaining Fiamma's cross dimensional flaming sword.

He didn't say they did. Look at the OP >Modern magic settings are super popular, so why aren't they used more often in isekai series?
Then look at the sorts of replies it got
>That shit requires talent and autism
>It requires some modicum of thought put into it

user is pointing out that urban fantasy can also have schlock in it and isn't intrinsically more difficult to write than normal fantasy.

Wait, shit, meant to reply to but I guess it applies to you too. I'm specifically saying that those had shit settings, that's my point. People ITT are saying that urban fantasy isn't popular because it's hard to write and takes creativity or whatever, but that's clearly not true because it WAS popular and most of them had zero skill or creativity.

That's the magic system though. What you're talking about is completed spells that make use of that system and have been researched for millennia. At their base however the spells work in the same manner as each other.

Literally no one cares about garbage like absolute duo anymore, we're complaining about the lack of GOOD urban fantasy despite the fact that it's clearly an incredibly popular genre when done well.

Yeah but explain how the flaming sword works

>we're complaining about the lack of GOOD urban fantasy
You might be, but OP sure isn't, seeing as they're actually asking why isekai don't use it.

I'm not sure you can surprise anyone with low-effort chuu2 battle harem settings anymore. They have zero sustainable power.