How come antagonists before were better? they were more memorable. Who the fuck is going to remember the nu gen shonens antagonists? they look retarded as fuck and devoid of any soul
it's not only the antag, the fights are more boring now than before, the universe were better before, the charadesigns were better before, what the fuck went wrong? Even the MC now looks retarded, they are "teens" and they look 11 but before they were "teens" too and looked like they are 18/19.
I think shonen before were targeted toward teens, but now it's targeted for kids. Fuck this.
Shonens
Andrew Cox
Oliver Morgan
Okay.
Adam Thomas
T. boomer cherrypicking
Easton Collins
Agree. Madara, Aizen and Blackbeard are all iconic. On the other hand I can't even remember the names of the ones in the bottom row.
Nolan Gomez
to be honest, Aizen is only good one in pic.
Isaiah Ortiz
Name a nu-villain/antagonist more memorable than Aizen, Madara and Teach.
Jonathan Sanders
God mha has the worst villians
Ayden Gonzalez
Hey Micheal Jackson is a perfectly good villain design
Chase Reyes
>muh keikaku
He's the worst one in that pic. Even Muzan is better.
Hunter Baker
>How come antagonists before were better?
Brandon Young
Kys bleachfag
Blackbeard is the best one out of them but still not good
John Reyes
nah blackbeard is based
Dominic Brooks
Post one then.
Angel Long
if we count DBS only, then the only villain in it is ZAMAS
Brandon Brooks
Muzan is pretty memorable for bodysnatching the MC's corpse
Gabriel Adams
>muh arm flail
Levi Robinson
Blackbeard is great tho
Leo Bailey
Literally who
Adam Diaz
SILENCE, insolent cur.
>is incapable of understanding the difference an ‘antagonist’ and a ‘villain’
I chortle.
Anthony Diaz
Whom?
Dominic Thomas
Whom?
Ryan Nelson
Start reading Seinen
Jonathan Martinez
>only lasted two chapters and was defeated with the power of friendship
Nah
Benjamin Cooper
You're right he's not good, he's great. Also OP is a faggot that can't understand he just grew up and outgrew comics written for 12-13 year old boys. Also he's a double faggot for not posting Geto because he knew he'd blow his argument away.
Carter Miller
So did Titsuri survive?
Jordan Moore
I do but I still like shonens. I wish it was as good as before
Jason Russell
Alright let's evaluate all of these antagonists:
>Aizen
WHEN DID YOU COME UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT MY PLAN WAS AS SIMPLE AS A PLAN THAT COULD BE PLANNED SIMPLY?
Later on:
"That would have probably worked on me...five minutes ago"
>Madara
The living embodiment of a kid having an imaginary fight
"You beat my meteor? Well how about my SECOND meteor!?"
>Blackbeard
Has accomplished literally nothing except for killing an old, dying man and laughed diabolically
>Muzan
Wants to...uh...acquire magic suntan lotion or something? Live forever? I don't know his evil goal is really vague
>Bottom Middle
I have literally no idea who this is.
>Hands McGee
Wants to destroy and kill pretty much for the sake of it at this point. Also sucks ass as a villainous leader and throws a temper tantrum the moment things don't go his way.
Isaiah Carter
OP is talking about antagonists, not villains.
Luis Scott
>Geto
Who?
It's not about growing up, it's the shonens that just suck nowadays, how come I still fucking enjoy reading OP but MHa/kny/bc are just garbage rushed mangas because their authors dont wanna ruin their health drawing for 20 years
Jayden Young
Jiren is more of an anti-hero bitchboy than anything else.
Dylan Ramirez
I feel like you know you're wrong but you're posting this anyways to enrage the mentally weak fanboys
Nolan Sanders
Shounenshitter newfags are now debating about muh epic villain? It’s like most of you only watch/read a series to argue about it. A bunch of faggots.
Jayden Bennett
You've been on Yas Forums too long.
Xavier Bailey
>Wants to...uh...acquire magic suntan lotion or something? Live forever?
Yeah basically
>>Bottom Middle
I have literally no idea who this is.
From black clover
Joshua Roberts
Shigaraki is the only good Villain up there
Jaxson Lopez
Agreed the antagonists of the past were amazing but Muzan is pretty good too. Not as good as Madara, Teach or Aizen but still good.
If anything, he's the worst out of the big three
Leo Cook
Attempt to debunk me in literally any way.
Sebastian Wright
kek was the spoiler tag necessary? Glad we're on the same page
Adam Allen
>Jiren is more of a [HEADCANON]
I guffaw at your reticent whimpers.
Logan Smith
Your comment was weak bait that I've seen before and debunked numerous times. I don't intend to do anything.
Nathan Jackson
It is about growing up. You outgrew stories written for young boys. It's as simple as that. They're not worse the ones you grew up with were just as bad you just weren't mentally able to realize it in your teens. It's completely normal to grow out of things. The series up top and the series on the bottom all have the same general flaws.
Adrian Allen
>Is completely incapable of defending shitty characters, resorts to just calling it bait.
Kevin Flores
God dammit Wani fuck you
Nathaniel Edwards
Ok, now THIS is a chad antagonist.
Christian Diaz
Why did you describe the old gen people’s powers, and then decide to talk about the new gen people’s goals
Caleb Bailey
Why have DBS threads been so fucking funny lately? Serious question, your replies just gave me pleasant flashbacks. The memes are just too good.
James Hall
>"You beat my meteor? Well how about my SECOND meteor!?"
To be fair, if you have meteor powers there really is nothing stopping you from just dropping a second meteor
Juan Smith
>Your attempt to exploit my anger is admirable. But I cannot be angered.
Still not working, user.
Aiden Sanchez
They really don't. I enjoy reading OP and hxh.
MHA & cie are just bad. No memorable fight, universe is wasted or not expanded on at all, or worse is just boring. Characters all look bad. Kubo / Kishimoto / Oda are far way better drawers than the 3 on the bottom especially charadesigns. And even in terms of anime, Bleach literally destroys everything bottom on it's own when it comes to ost. Only thing bottom has for it is animation and that's only thanks to the year they were released in. They are just that bad, bad copies of copies of a copy.
Chase Garcia
Because powerlevel faggotry is his only argument against those three.
Michael King
I can agree with this, and Bleach isn't my favourite big 3 anime.
Kevin Adams
>Wants to...uh...acquire magic suntan lotion or something? Live forever? I don't know his evil goal is really vague
Your other stuff is all well and good but this is outright wrong. Muzan wanted the blue flower so that he could walk in the sun and not have to worry about ever being killed again. His encounter with Tsugikuni scared him shitless and he wanted to never have to worry about it again. The flower meant he would have never been effected by the red blade, sun breathing, or the sun itself again making him immortal. It's a simple motivation and the story is very clear about it there's nothing vague.
Oliver Wilson