How come antagonists before were better? they were more memorable. Who the fuck is going to remember the nu gen shonens antagonists? they look retarded as fuck and devoid of any soul
it's not only the antag, the fights are more boring now than before, the universe were better before, the charadesigns were better before, what the fuck went wrong? Even the MC now looks retarded, they are "teens" and they look 11 but before they were "teens" too and looked like they are 18/19.
I think shonen before were targeted toward teens, but now it's targeted for kids. Fuck this.
Shonens
Okay.
T. boomer cherrypicking
Agree. Madara, Aizen and Blackbeard are all iconic. On the other hand I can't even remember the names of the ones in the bottom row.
to be honest, Aizen is only good one in pic.
Name a nu-villain/antagonist more memorable than Aizen, Madara and Teach.
God mha has the worst villians
Hey Micheal Jackson is a perfectly good villain design
>muh keikaku
He's the worst one in that pic. Even Muzan is better.
>How come antagonists before were better?
Kys bleachfag
Blackbeard is the best one out of them but still not good
nah blackbeard is based
Post one then.
if we count DBS only, then the only villain in it is ZAMAS
Muzan is pretty memorable for bodysnatching the MC's corpse
>muh arm flail
Blackbeard is great tho
Literally who
SILENCE, insolent cur.
>is incapable of understanding the difference an ‘antagonist’ and a ‘villain’
I chortle.
Whom?
Whom?
Start reading Seinen
>only lasted two chapters and was defeated with the power of friendship
Nah
You're right he's not good, he's great. Also OP is a faggot that can't understand he just grew up and outgrew comics written for 12-13 year old boys. Also he's a double faggot for not posting Geto because he knew he'd blow his argument away.
So did Titsuri survive?
I do but I still like shonens. I wish it was as good as before
Alright let's evaluate all of these antagonists:
>Aizen
WHEN DID YOU COME UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT MY PLAN WAS AS SIMPLE AS A PLAN THAT COULD BE PLANNED SIMPLY?
Later on:
"That would have probably worked on me...five minutes ago"
>Madara
The living embodiment of a kid having an imaginary fight
"You beat my meteor? Well how about my SECOND meteor!?"
>Blackbeard
Has accomplished literally nothing except for killing an old, dying man and laughed diabolically
>Muzan
Wants to...uh...acquire magic suntan lotion or something? Live forever? I don't know his evil goal is really vague
>Bottom Middle
I have literally no idea who this is.
>Hands McGee
Wants to destroy and kill pretty much for the sake of it at this point. Also sucks ass as a villainous leader and throws a temper tantrum the moment things don't go his way.
OP is talking about antagonists, not villains.
>Geto
Who?
It's not about growing up, it's the shonens that just suck nowadays, how come I still fucking enjoy reading OP but MHa/kny/bc are just garbage rushed mangas because their authors dont wanna ruin their health drawing for 20 years
Jiren is more of an anti-hero bitchboy than anything else.
I feel like you know you're wrong but you're posting this anyways to enrage the mentally weak fanboys
Shounenshitter newfags are now debating about muh epic villain? It’s like most of you only watch/read a series to argue about it. A bunch of faggots.
You've been on Yas Forums too long.
>Wants to...uh...acquire magic suntan lotion or something? Live forever?
Yeah basically
>>Bottom Middle
I have literally no idea who this is.
From black clover
Shigaraki is the only good Villain up there
Agreed the antagonists of the past were amazing but Muzan is pretty good too. Not as good as Madara, Teach or Aizen but still good.
If anything, he's the worst out of the big three
Attempt to debunk me in literally any way.
kek was the spoiler tag necessary? Glad we're on the same page
>Jiren is more of a [HEADCANON]
I guffaw at your reticent whimpers.
Your comment was weak bait that I've seen before and debunked numerous times. I don't intend to do anything.
It is about growing up. You outgrew stories written for young boys. It's as simple as that. They're not worse the ones you grew up with were just as bad you just weren't mentally able to realize it in your teens. It's completely normal to grow out of things. The series up top and the series on the bottom all have the same general flaws.
>Is completely incapable of defending shitty characters, resorts to just calling it bait.
God dammit Wani fuck you
Ok, now THIS is a chad antagonist.
Why did you describe the old gen people’s powers, and then decide to talk about the new gen people’s goals
Why have DBS threads been so fucking funny lately? Serious question, your replies just gave me pleasant flashbacks. The memes are just too good.
>"You beat my meteor? Well how about my SECOND meteor!?"
To be fair, if you have meteor powers there really is nothing stopping you from just dropping a second meteor
>Your attempt to exploit my anger is admirable. But I cannot be angered.
Still not working, user.
They really don't. I enjoy reading OP and hxh.
MHA & cie are just bad. No memorable fight, universe is wasted or not expanded on at all, or worse is just boring. Characters all look bad. Kubo / Kishimoto / Oda are far way better drawers than the 3 on the bottom especially charadesigns. And even in terms of anime, Bleach literally destroys everything bottom on it's own when it comes to ost. Only thing bottom has for it is animation and that's only thanks to the year they were released in. They are just that bad, bad copies of copies of a copy.
Because powerlevel faggotry is his only argument against those three.
I can agree with this, and Bleach isn't my favourite big 3 anime.
>Wants to...uh...acquire magic suntan lotion or something? Live forever? I don't know his evil goal is really vague
Your other stuff is all well and good but this is outright wrong. Muzan wanted the blue flower so that he could walk in the sun and not have to worry about ever being killed again. His encounter with Tsugikuni scared him shitless and he wanted to never have to worry about it again. The flower meant he would have never been effected by the red blade, sun breathing, or the sun itself again making him immortal. It's a simple motivation and the story is very clear about it there's nothing vague.