What are some bad anime criticism that you often see?
I can't take anyone that says "plot armour" seriously. Yes, bro. We're watching fiction, how did you figure that one out?
What are some bad anime criticism that you often see?
Plot armor doesn't exist in good anime.
Most bad criticism is just too vague, like "bad writing".
"Plot armour" is a perfectly reasonable complaint an you should stop pretending to not know what it means.
"Unrealistic" is mostly a bullshit complaint. Realism can be used well, but it's not a good thing in itself.
They say "self-insert bait shit" to literally every slightly relatable or even just entertaining mc, as if that was a bad thing. The whole anime genre is pure escapism and almost nothing else, pretending that you're better because you don't like to self-insert is just a dumb lie and noone will believe it.
"Forced drama" when it refers to a character acting out in an unfavorable situation. Moody teenagers are the core embodiment of drama.
Gundam gets a pass because it's most of the time, it's thanks to literal fucking armour that Amuro manages to wiggle out of trouble.
That said, Ramba Rals should have crushed him like a paper cup.
>waifubait
>it makes no sense
>power levels
>its so its bad
Because some fiction doesn't have the plot armor, which makes it better and more suspenseful, when one not be guaranteed that the hero live?
Except in any competently written story even if the hero is going to die he's going to die at the very end or its a bait and switch and the character you thought was the hero was actually wasn't and he dies very early as a shocking twist before the actual hero comes onto the scene.
If I'm watching episode 15 of a show I know is gonna run for 24 episodes (that's not an episodic anthology or something in case you fags try to "refute" me with that), I know the hero isn't going to fucking die until either the last episode or two. No matter how much """danger""" you put him through.
Melodrama when they don't even know what the word means,i don't think i've seen one yet.
No one gives a shit about your blogpost, fucking retard.
No, the contrapositive is more important: that the writer actually gives convincing narrative reasons for characters to survive rather than just "being cut in half was just a scratch" or "all million bullets missed" or whatever.
Oh boy
>Plot armour just because the main hero doesn't die lol
I saw this a bunch with Deku, people thought it was plot armor even tho his superpower includes enhanced durability but don't say shit about other characters. They even complain when Bakugo(whose only power is his sweat) gets thrown into Deku that DEKU should have bee hurt more.
>muh mc
Kinda closeminded to think an anime has to have a mc and they bitch about switching perspectives. I can get it on stuff like Baki Dou but fags bitch way too much, it's like they want everything to be like Dragon Ball or sum
>has to be that hero dies at the end or dies early
No fucking shit, what else is going to happen. Some sort of middle ground where the hero just meanders his way into death half-way through is a half-assed narrative
I hate it when people complain about japan wank. Especially when it comes to americans complaining about JSDF wanking in GATE. Its so fucking hypocritical with how America Fuck yeah american movies are.
And then you're watching a series with plot armor; there are plenty of series that don't do that and are willing to kill off their main character 1/3 in and replace him with a new main character, or have an ensemble cast where killing one main character isn't that big of a deal because there are 6 of them.
>"one-dimensional" characters
Complex characterization is a plus when done right (e.g. when the plot is complex enough to support them), but "genericity" is ultimately what makes characters relateable, compelling, and memorable.
Lack of plot armour doesn't have to mean killing anyone, just not putting them in obviously lethal situations without killing them.
He gets replaced with a new hero?
Some series absolutely kill their central character and introduce a new central character – another good way to do this is not having one single central character.
And if they constantly survive it against all odds, that's plot armor.
If the viewer knows that they will always survive, then there's no suspense; stories that employ the "everyone can die" trope keep the audience honest — there is legitimate suspense when watching because the viewer has seen it before and knows the story is not afraid to kill off popular or main characters.
Same thing but without death in say Sakurasou where they very often fail in their attempts; it keeps the viewer honest.
>"genericity" is ultimately what makes characters relateable, compelling, and memorable
Disagree entirely. Generic characters can sometimes be used to good effect, but it's not a good thing in itself. Having no discernible personality isn't relatable at all.
If they constantly survive against the odds then that's the opposite of what I'm talking about. Read properly retard.
>Most bad criticism is just too vague, like "bad writing".
That's because people are too stupid to explain their problems with a series and instead chose to rely on buzzwords.
>Self-insert used for relatable MCs
That's used wrongly then,self-insert MCs are bland as fuck with no personality of their own, especially so that you can project yourself onto them
the smug dumb faggots on this board that think being reductionist counts as actual criticism.
>no discernible personality
No such thing.
At most you can have personalities that are different enough from the target audience to alienate them, or personality tropes that are overused to the point of audience fatigue (and even then, these "nice guys" or "genki girls" still count as personalities, and anime audiences still relate to them enough to follow their series).
>X character happens to be at Y place at the perfect time!!! What are the odds!?
This said about basically anything happening in every story
Traditionally a "self-insert" was when an author wrote a character that was an idealised version of themselves, ie inserted themselves into their story. But much like "Mary Sue" usage has drifted over time to what you said.
His use of "Self-insert BAIT" made it clear he was talking about the latter and not an authors selfinsert
"Mary Sue"
It often feels like the critic is running through a mary sue checklist, and if there's 5 or more ticks—guess they're a bad character!
The debate devolves into "Are they overpowered or not?" rather than the infinitely more pertinent "How does their 'power' compromise the story?"
Don''t be so dramatic.
I know someone who refuses to watch Jojo cuz "the characters look too weird"
>The debate devolves into "Are they overpowered or not?" rather than the infinitely more pertinent "How does their 'power' compromise the story?"
i feel like this kind of difference is at the heart of most of the complaints listed itt
Almost all criticism stemming from TVTropes mentality is fucking garbage.
>Realism can be used well, but it's not a good thing in itself.
Realism is irrelevant in a highly fantastical setting. It's when the internal rules become inconsistent that the work deserves plenty of criticism