Will Oregairu join the ranks with S3?

> Believing yourself the center of the universe is a problem
So did hachiman. And yukino only acted like that, she clearly mentions that she was just pretending, whereas she knows very well that she is weak and have confidence issues. The entire point of the club was for both hachiman and yukino to interact with each other and bring out the best from the other. As the saying goes, diamond cuts diamond.

>DUDE HACHIMAN IS LITERALLY ME
No

Yukino tends simply to take over and start bossing people around, insisting that things be done her way and that lesser people (those she is "trying to help") should just obey. Whatever her intentions she has a tendency to come off as arrogant, bossy and looking down on others. Her attempt to help Yui failed because she was overly focused on getting Yui to cook something she, a perfectionist, would find acceptable instead of simply good enough to convey feelings. Her attempt to help Totsuka didn't go well because she was overly focused on getting the others to leave the tennis court and beating them rather than the request of helping the tennis club get bigger/more popular.
So it seems that often she isn't really helping people with what they ask for but trying to impose her agenda on them. People come to her for help with a specific problem but instead get an entire self-improvement program. Add to that her "help" is heavy on stick a light on carrot and you can see that maybe instead of her isolation coming just from others envy, it may come from her being overly hard on others and pushing her ideology.

Like, apart from needing an attitude adjustment, you can already argue Yukino has everything. Then again, as a friend pointed out to me, these kinds of characters; wealthy, beautiful, intelligent, etc; are very common in Asian media. I just can't emphasize too much with them though. They have nearly everything and are still miserable. Let me play my tiny violin.

Add your lie in april. Pure soul

I've watched two of those and they were mediocre at best

It would be great if you haters could stop using how yukino was initially in the show as an argument to shit on her. Since hachiman was no better than her either. They were problem children and that's why they were put in the club. But they became like that because they suffered at the hands of the society. Yukino was neither cold, nor bitchy in her childhood, it was thanks to all the bullying and harrasment she received, she became like that. And there is a thing called Character development, both hachiman and yukino have improved a lot thanks to each other and are doing pretty well in the society now.

>Yui failed because she was overly focused on getting Yui to cook something she, a perfectionist, would find acceptable instead of simply good enough to convey feelings.
Instead yukino put everything she had to teach yui how to bake cookies but yuigahama was dumb af and couldn't even follow that.
Hachiman's solution to tell yui to just say that she put a lot of effort into it and the boy would accept it was just temporary, whereas yukino's would have helped yui in the long run.

As for totsuka's request, she made them practice and workout, which would have helped them in the long run by improving their skills.

Hachiman's solutions produce results but they are temporary and only solves the problem on surface. Whereas yukino's solution often not ends up producing instant results but they help in the long run.
Hachiman is the one who brings the fish to a hungry person, whereas yukino is the one who teaches the person how to fish.
Even hachiman admitted in volume 9 that his methods were wrong and Yukino was right.

Since when have literally genies been a good thing? Further, you aren't addressing all stick, no carrot part of my argument. Starving homeless people used to avoid the salvation army because they made people sit though long sermons before giving people food, help that comes with a heaping helping of scorn isn't helpful.

Lastly, there is this thing called subtext. that you have to at least try to read if you really want to help people. Yui wasn't looking for a baking lesson so much as romantic help.

>Lastly, there is this thing called subtext. that you have to at least try to read if you really want to help people. Yui wasn't looking for a baking lesson so much as romantic help.
Yui's request only mentioned that she wanted to learn how to make cookies.
You can't expect everyone to be the mood reader that hachiman is, and hence you can't blame yukino for that. And yukino's method would have made sure that yui gives cookies to the person and would have also taught her how to make cookies had yui not been that dumb.

>5cm
tfw no gf incel trash

>HM
Good manga, bad anime

>TgK
Dogshit

>JB
Probably shit

>he likes the tranny series

hmmmmm

>doesn’t end up with Iroha
Naw

>Yukino was neither cold, nor bitchy in her childhood, it was thanks to all the bullying and harrasment she received, she became like that.
Wasn't this interpretation from her POV? Unless we have independent observations in the story by others backing it up, it's very much likely to be biased, particularly when it comes from someone arrogant and considering herself superior. A bad attitude means that anyone who'd consider giving her a chance would soon give it up as a hopeless venture.

> Starving homeless people used to avoid the salvation army because they made people sit though long sermons before giving people food, help that comes with a heaping helping of scorn isn't helpful.
And this argument sucks because what yukino is doing is not make people wait and then suddenly fulfill their wish but is actually teaching them how to do it themselves. It's people's fault if they are not capable of doing that, not her. That was clearly stated by Sensei in the first volume that yukino is a kind girl and is often right, but the world is neither kind nor right, and that's why she suffers.

Wrong. The club only existed for Yukino to connect to other people and make friends.
Shizuka practically tells Hachiman that he can quit the club during the work visit and that she'd still like to stay involved with him, this doesn't happen in the anime though.
But Hachiman had to go fuck it up when he told Yui that she didn't need to hang around because he saved her dog.
Yui stops showing up to the club, and Shizuka forces them to recruit a third member, which was never important until all of a sudden.
Without Hachiman, Yui had no reason to stick around Yukino.

S3 will have some of the most boring shit ever, few people liked the majority of that final arc. Most of it is each of the characters at their least interesting points in the story. Though, I suppose people will only be watching it for iroha or yukino or someone else since waifufagging and all that.
>tfw no gf incel trash
Didn't the MC actually have a relationship with someone but broke it off due to his obsessions for a past he couldn't even recall?

>Wasn't this interpretation from her POV?
Not just her POV. Mentioned by hayama that yukino used to have friends but they suddenly turned against her because of the rumors that hayama and yukino were dating. Again backed up by haruno, as she mentioned that yukino used to have friends and they tends to like her at first, if she was bitchy, then they wouldn't even have gotten close to her, like how they don't in highschool. They start becoming jealous because of love matters and her talent and ends up harassing her. Yukino's only problem is that she can't act fake like yui, hayama and haruno. And that's also the reason why she's hachiman's girl.

She is the daughter of a rich family that is also very influential, and while she has to perform and keep an image befitting such a background that's pretty much all that she has to do, by this I mean that she does not have to shoulder and perform the duties and obligations that are commonly assigned to the child of such a highly wealthy and influential family. This is due to Haruno being the firstborn and heir while Yukino is the second-born, and because Haruno is so superhumanly good and hyper-competent at everything, there is little to nothing for Yukino to do besides showing up from time to time at some of the family's functions/social gatherings.

This means that canonically Yukino's situation is a perfect example of "The Benefits of being a Prince rather than a King". As a prince you get to enjoy all of the privileges and benefits that come with being a member of the royal house for the entirety of your life while never having to deal with the duties and obligations that come with being a King. Yukino can pretty much do and get whatever she wants, want to study in the USA? Done, want to live in/tour Europe for some years? Done, want to live in some top of the line house and initiate your own business? Done, what's more because Yukino is from a rich and influential family while also being highly intelligent and dilligent then you can say without a doubt that the world is her oyster, she holds all the cards.

An example of that is shown in canon when Yukino wanted to live alone in her own place (I think it was because she was getting tired of dealing with Haruno and with their mother) so she went to her papa and next thing you know? Yukino now lives in a high-class apartment and no longer has to spend so much time with her mother and sister, just like she wanted.

This is why I have never truly being able to understand/sympathize with her whenever she asks Hachiman to "save her", I mean girl you literally are the 1% of the 1% at the top.

>Wrong. The club only existed for Yukino to connect to other people and make friends.
Sensei literally forced hachiman to join the club and she forced him to stay there even when he tried to run away. Sensei clearly wanted hachiman and yukino to be in the club and watch them interact.

>As I expected you are – the both of you are quite contrary. I’m worried about the fact that neither of you seem like you’ll be able to adapt to society well. That’s why I want to bring you both to the same place.”

> “Would that be an isolation ward?.....”

>“Yeah probably. I like watching students like you two, its fun. So maybe it’s just that I want the both of you to be close by.”

user, that's a very terrible thought process. If money was able to buy everything then there wouldn't have been so many celebrities commiting suicide. She was deprived of any parental love, which money can't buy you. She suffered isolation and bullying on the hands of her classmates. She never actually received affection from anyone her whole life and was isolated. And the only reason yukino bought that apartment was when she couldn't stand her family situation anymore. And there is no need to force yourself to sympathize with her anyway, since everyone wasn't supposed to be sympathizing with her in the first place.