Even in that fanfic manga, it is declared how FAR UP ABOVE the GoDs Jiren is.
When Toppo proudly exclaims "BY SKILL ALONE, Jiren is above Cuckmond".
Anyone with a basic grasp of English, can deduce the meaning of "by X alone". It is a phrase utilized to let the reader/listener know that nothing else needs to be considered. A similar phrase would be "not taking into account his superior strength, power, speed. Jiren is stronger than Belmond."
Jiren is more skillful than Belmond, whose skill and tactics and battle allowed him to be the only unscathed fighter in the GoD exhibition.
>b-b-b-b-buh playing d-dead?
FALSE, he only did that in the last part. He showed strength formidable enough to threaten the life of all the GoDs at once, and the only were saved by a single GoD who could break out of it, and attack Belmond at full power. This attack did nothing to him.
Now, Jiren was stated to be stronger than all GoDs, that is his premise. Even if you wish to cope and crying that he is only stronger than Belmond, you lose anyhow. Because Belmond is one of the strongest if not THE strongest GoD. This statement about Jiren was made when the depths of his power and potential were unknown, as shown when Whis is surprised at Jiren's full release on both mediums.
Now take that insurmountable power, the power that exceeds the GoDs' by far; and then add his skill, surpassing one of the most cunning GoDs' own combat abilities. And what do you get?
CHADCHAD CHA CHAD, little bitch. THAT'S what you get.
Dragon Ball Super
Honestly, Goku is such a shit character. Vegeta is written much more like a true underdog MC you can get behind.
>me too stupid to tell if a character is good if it isn't right on my nose with a side change
Jobgetafags are stupid and embarrassing
>Goku is such a shit character.
Copegeta please. Goku is a really unique character that wants to get stronger and break his limits, at the same time he is also selfish and does what he wants, something that combined with his naive nature results in one of the most interesting manga/anime characters of all time.
>waku waku strong opponent
>what's a kiss?
Yeah so interesting.
>Being completely filtered by the character of Goku
Truly a pleb among plebs, no wonder you prefer someone like Vegeta,
>inane babble
Touché.
>No, don't say things that I can't understand
Your average doggeta fan.
>doubling down on the nonsense
Tintinnabulated.
You are an utter brainlet
>Wahh, this is too confusing for me.
I destroyed you.
>ad hominem
Woosh.
>argument by repetition
Ended.
>Avoiding the fight
BOOM! Another victory for me.
I feel like committing suicide for posting in a Shitren thread and feeding that low quality bait. I'm gonna make 100 posts in the other thread to make up for it
I don't know about that but...
Vegeta is never going to surpass Goku.
>I feel like committing suicide
Take another one, little depressed bitch.
PLEASE WHAT NEWS BROLY MOVIE NEW 2020 2021 ???
Based.
Well well well.... What do WE have here??
You only won because we left you. Cope.
>replying to moespam
>>You only won because we left you
>IESLB wording
Get the FUCK out.
This cacaposteros ya theres 3 threads going
Jiren really wasn't that great of an antagonist. Who even loses to 17? Even Piccolo managed a win against him.
Can't wait until the anime confirms it, oh wait :^)
Still the most vicious punches in DB.
>didn't even tore their stomach open
sad to say even BITCHgeta did better
Do you need a tragic backstory for the main clown when you go to the circus?
Does knowing the clown is responsible for the death of his brother make his tightrope walking more impressive?
>muh rubbery torsos
Yeah nah.
Original SSJ is still the best