Naruhina was obvious

TouKen was the only one where there was literally no contest.

>Sakura liked Sasuke from day one
>won
>Hinata liked Naruto from day one
>won
>Orihime liked Ichigo from day one
>won
>Rukia and Historia have never showed a hint of liking the MC
>????????
Cope harder. EH is non existent out of Yas Forums and leddit.

*outside

Don't forget youtube youtube.com/watch?v=cdsrL_chGkM

Of course the shipping thread survives. Where did it all go wrong?

I just hope it happens sooner rather than later. The more chapters we get after one ship or the other is definitely sunk and dead, the more likely it is that these threads could be fun again for at least a few months before the ending.

I never paid attention to Bleach and I dropped Naruto around the timeskip, but I can tell you I thought Naruhina was blindingly, stupidly obvious nearly from the moment Hinata showed up, and certainly after she fought Neji. Anyone that believed otherwise was willfully blind.

>Of course the shipping thread survives.
>shipping thread
But at this point, that would be all of the threads.

whale cope

>Clinging to a cringy YouTube amv
Yikes

He's right though.

>I thought Naruhina was blindingly, stupidly obvious nearly from the moment Hinata showed up
If you're going into Naruto with only western media experience, it isn't obvious at all and seems like bullshit.
Characters like Hinata and Orihime don't exist in western writing, because it's considered a shitty cop out route.

I thought Naruto and Hinata was the right move especially after Sakuras character went full retard over sasuke even after he almost killed her multiple times.
Thats just for Naruto though.
In general, it kind of annoys me when the romantic interest character established very early on wins the mc. It takes away all interesting dynamics because at the end of the day, the mc can just sit on his ass and the romantic interest will be there for him no matter what. He doesn't have to do anything to build the relationship, it just happens because they had a crush on him for long time.
Shonen romance would be better if one of them didn't automatically fall head over heels in love with the mc for no apparent reason from the get go. The relationship should be developed through the trials of the show itself.
I thought Bleach was doing great at this but they actually ended with the crush trope winning.

Tldr: The Journey is better than the destination with Romance. Both Naruto and Bleach failed at this but Naruto gets a pass.

Wow, first time I'm watching this AMV, it's really good!

Disagree. Even a child should be able to pick up on how the author is setting up Hinata as Naruto's love interest with the way she's framed at the beginning, and again, if one didn't realize it by the time she fought Neji they'd have a legitimate learning disability. No caveats, no excuses.

>Naruto was baited to be with Sakura the first 75% of the series
>Ichigo was baited to be with Rukia the first 75% of the series
Delusional.

>Even a child should be able to pick up on how the author is setting up Hinata as Naruto's love interest with the way she's framed at the beginning

Orihime and Hinata are "emergency exit" type characters that the author can easily pivot into if the main hero-heroine arc doesn't work out.
Shippers are too stupid/delusional to tell the difference, because they blow everything up in their minds. But any sensible writer will tell you that non-tragic romances don't end with the protagonist marrying a minor or secondary character. That's not how it works.
Naruto and Bleach were not examples of "cucking" so much that the notoriously shit writers like Kishimoto and Kubo couldn't figure out a way to write a convincing romance.

>Naruto and Sakura are main characters
>Ichigo and Rukia are main characters
It's not rocket science.

>if the main hero-heroine arc doesn't work out.
Not him but that's not how it works. Even JK Rowling wanted Harry and Hermione to get together but that didn't happen.

I remember those horrible pairing wars, NaruHina vs Narusaku, people arguing with manga panels, walls of text, intimidating other fans, it was crazy, I even knew of idiots that sent virus to people that didn't support their favorite ship.

>Orihime and Hinata are "emergency exit" type characters that the author can easily pivot into if the main hero-heroine arc doesn't work out.
Nope. Both girls were introduced liking the respective MCs of their series. Both had it in the bag since day 1, but it became clear when both got the only confessions towards the MC. Sakura and Rukia never stood a chance, especially since neither liked the respective MCs.

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Goku, and Bulma were main characters as well.

Bitch Sakura never really liked Naruto, I agree. She was a typical female looking for self gain and wanted that Uchiha dick to increase her status.
I don't think Rukia and Ichigo is similar at all though. They had a close friendship that could have justifiably turned romantic if the author wanted to take it in that direction.

>They had a close friendship that could have justifiably turned romantic if the author wanted to take it in that direction.
And it didn't so there's your answer. One-sided > zero-sided.

>Even JK Rowling wanted Harry and Hermione to get together but that didn't happen.

Rowling wrote the Deathly Hallows epilogue a decade before the final book release.

Yeah don't lump Ichigo and Rukia in with the rest of these

JK has numerous interviews about wanting Harry and Hermione to get together.

>Goku, and Bulma were main characters as well.
As was Yamcha, who paired up with Bulma throughout the original DB

No one has taken her seriously ever since she said Hermoine was black, and that Dumbledore was gay despite nothing hinting at either of those things throughout the novels.

She also said wizards would shit in the Hogwarts hallway like it was a Chinese highway, what's your point?
She had decades to change the ending and didn't, she can't change it now.

>As was Yamcha, who paired up with Bulma throughout the original DB
Nah. Don't even try to twist it that way. Goku, and Bulma were the two MCs. Yamcha was a recurring character. Anyways, she married someone else.

he is right

How much panel time was devoted to Naruto trying to woo Sakura?
And what was the point of it, seeing as Sakura's interest in Sasuke was as shallow as possible?
All of that went to waste and it made Sakura look like a shitty character. That's not good writing.

lol idiot orihime and ichigo wasnt one sided or zero sided

Orihime x Ichigo was one-sided in a sense, and I say this as someone that likes the pairing. Ichigo was much more kind and soft and caring with Orihime, but it was never outright stated that he liked her more than a friend. This is just a fact.

??? it was one-sided as all fuck

The point was that it wasn't zero-sided, the author just didn't bite the bullet.
It was like half sided both ways.