Why arent there more long running weekly shonen anymore with branching 50+ chapter/episode arcs anymore...

why arent there more long running weekly shonen anymore with branching 50+ chapter/episode arcs anymore? BNHA is smaller condensed arcs with an anime that airs in seasons, and black clover is just kind of there. there hasnt been another worthy member of the big 3 in almost 20 years

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Because everything sucks. The golden age is clearly over for Shonen Jump. Once One Piece ends the magazine will fucking die.
People shits on Kubo and Kishimoto but they were really good for what they did. Specially Kishimoto.

Because these 3 made people sick off long- running series. No one want to read another story that take a decade to finish.

Read jjk

Why are people saying that WSJ will die once One Piece ends?

I was thinking about this the other day, with a few modern exceptions all we tend to get are cours with might have a second season years down the line. Nothing seems to run continuously, studios are adapting semi-popular mangas with only 20 chapters and running it for a single cour. The industry is stuck in this model, and I can’t see it ever getting the intertia to break out again

It's one piece fans who think that

its probably better this way, but i cant say i wont miss the old format

Cause this model make better quality anime than just shit out episode weekly. Also it give the manga more time so the anime don't have to come up with filler arc.

aka more than half of people who buys WSJ.

Imagine how much better these shows would be if they weren't forced to shit out content every single week for years.

This sounds good on paper but in the end the anime adaptations are still as shit as always. Just look and Boku no hero, quality goes down every season.

its the number 1 manga in the world, i dont think WSJ will die, but it will surely take a hit once they lose a series that massive.

>ITT zoomers on denial thinking the Big 3 wouldn't BTFO any other modern day shounen if they were to be released today for the first time

Still better than most OP, Bleach or Naruto episodes. Also no more filler arc.

Because their other recent big series all seem like they'll end soon (see KnY) and there are no promising huge hits in the horizon to replace them.

Still, magazines survive with much smaller circulation, but they will take a hit if nothing else is growing to a similar size by the time One Piece ends.

Really, I always felt like the longer arcs of manga like Naruto and OP came from the authors being influenced by watching filler-heavy anime, with those filler heavy anime becoming rarer and rarer through the years, we're now seeing authors going back to shorter arcs.

As for the lack of longer filler heavy shows, there are just less anime getting prime timeslots that make it worth it to keep making that extra content just to keep the ratings and show on air. In addition to One Piece, you also have Detective Conan that's mostly ignored in the West, and in both of those cases you have a secondary time slot next to them that's used for a rotation of different series, changing periodically, with no worry about that since the big attraction is stable. That's why BnHA gets away with its seasonal format in spite of being a daytime show due to this timeslot being available next to Conan.

Still if you look back there were never THAT many long 100 episode+ series running all at once (well, not counting stuff like Doraemon, Sazae-san, Shin-chan, chibi maruko and such that are still running now and obviously no one counts them). Then you have some movement towards anime original shows, like how during the 90s you had a filler heavy Toei Sailor Moon, but nowadays they just make their own fully original Pretty Cure series, and there are all those anime-original card game series.

>Why are people saying that WSJ will die once One Piece ends?
Because people always want to believe the sky is falling. I'm sure there were retards saying the same thing when Dragon Ball was over

Those series didn't have 50+ chapter arcs until later in their run. Bnha had a 40 chapter arc and black clover had a 90 chapter arc.

bleach literally started with a 100+ chapter soul society arc after they introduced the characters, and one piece has had almost nothing but 100+ arcs since alabasta once they gathered the core crew. dont know about naruto, but from what i read theyre pretty short arcs

Bleach alone shits on most modern day shounens.

Jjk is the only battle shounen worth reading right now

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Even WSJ agrees since they keep using the big 3 for everything.

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It's better than shitting out 15 minutes episode every week and still have to pad it out to not overtake the manga. One Piece showed us the model is very very unsustainable.
One Piece doesn't deserve that turd anime, really.

>why arent there more long running weekly shonen anymore with branching 50+ chapter/episode arcs anymore?
Because others do try to be interesting instead of boring the readers

actually kill yourselves facebook zoomers

because no one plans anything, togashi, oda, kishi plan things before writing them

hori just shits everything as he goes along, see that chapter were twice spends the whole chapter crying saying he will have to do what he has never done which is cloning Toga, but he did it before, hori just don't remember it lol

>because no one plans anything, togashi, oda, kishi plan things before writing them
i agree on oda and togashi but when did Kishimoto ever plan anything?

he planned on ripping off togashi

does anyone actually believe that the itachi twist, madara, or the ending to orochimaru were actually planned?

Because people genuinely can't comprehend Jump stays on top because everyone else is so much further below them. When Jump dies, the manga magazine industry will no longer be mainstream.

> quality goes down every season.
Except it doesn't really. And seasonal anime are obviously superior on average then weekly. S2 of KNY is still gonna be of higher quality than the manga.

You've never seen One Piece or any Toei long runners or god awful Studio Pierrot's long runners.

That's kind of true but just because a magazine isn't as popular as WSJ doesn't mean it's obscure. WSJ is just way ahead of everything else in that regard. If Jump dies some of the series that may have gone to WSJ only to get axed after 15 chapter may be able to continue being published. But also if WSJ died the people who only subscribe to it may move onto something else and spread WSJ's numbers around a bit.

Zoomers have a low attention span

probably just a zoomer after watching some naruto clips from its big episodes not knowing how it looks like 99% of the time.

One piece isn't even the biggest series on the mag anymore. They'll be fine. Even if KnY ends they'll just find something else to carry them.

>because no one plans anything
>hori just shits everything as he goes along
This seems to be the only successful thing to do for shounentards, just look at how popular Fairy Tail is/was. Author just draws titties and make up a shitty arc, and he doesn't even make that up, he just copies the previous arc over and over. I also remember a good number of shounen manga that was axed early but mangaka showing off loads of a lot of stuff that was planned on their sites which makes me think that planning ahead just isn't worth a mangak's time if fans are just want brain dead series.

I just read MHA a few months ago and started watching the anime around the time Mirio fought Overhaul (even watched Heroes Rising) and I firmly believe that the fucking Naruto anime is more entertaining. Naruto's sakuga fight choreography>MHA's "lines get really sketchy for one or two punches at the climax of a fight" bullshit. Went back and watched AM vs AFO and Deku vs Muscular and it's all the same shit, the only interesting fight visually was Deku vs Shoto, MHA anime is not taking advantage of the medium at all.

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Yeah, you don't know if it's going to be successful or not so most of them only thought of making a cool opening arcs.

What fight choreography lmao
Did you only watch kakashi vs obito?

Lee vs Gaara happened like around 50 episodes and it's still better than anything in Hero Acalamia.

The first Kakashi team vs Zabuza is a good example. That entire arc was kino tho, MHA did such a shitty job at blatantly rippin it off its not even funny.

It's also the only pre-timeskip fight that looked good. Not even the climax of chuunin exam had good animation.

They might or they might not.
KnY was carried by fujos and it won't happen again.

>KnY
>He doesnt know

>KnY was carried by fujos
Listen to me you unbelievable retard, KnY regularly sells 2 million+ per week
If you assume that only 40% of people reading the series are non fujos it is still 8 times higher what its non-One Piece contemporaries (BNHA, BC) sell
KnY is an objective success in every possible metric

I agree that KnY deserves its place among the big three, too bad its ending tho. If one piece counts than the big three are know KnY, OP and MHA?
I don't like rating MHA but the other contenders can't compare in terms of popularity.

>It's also the only pre-timeskip fight that looked good
Naruto vs Sasuke had moments, and the fights against Zabusa, and the Sound 4 were infinitely more interesting than anything MHA has done to this point in the manga.

I hope you know that me painting Naruto in a positive light is one of the most annoying things I've ever done but that's just how bad MHA is

its definitely a success, but slimly beating one piece for a single year doesnt amount to much on the grand scheme of things, even moreso when it doesnt look like the series has longevity
if KnY has maybe a few years left in it, it might reach bleach/naruto status

Perhaps, but how does "slimly" beating one piece in one year and absolutely demolishing it the next one, taking all the single year records and also beating it in individual volume sales sound?

No, it sold 12 million last year. This year on the other hand it's at 34 million in 20 weeks so far.

it sounds to me like its still only about 10% of one piece's lifetime sales

im not even that much of a salesfag, it was not the reason why i got into one piece at a young age and it wont be the reason why i continue
you can shitpost about it all you want, but as of right now its hard to tell how big KnY will really be comparative to the rest of the big 3, simply because it seems to be ending quite soon

thats pretty fuckin impressive then
if the manga continues for a few more years and then movie/second season of the anime continues to help boost sales then it will actually be big 3 material

I'm not really shitposting about it. I think exploding at the same time it's heading towards an ending definitely helped it keep momentum.

One Piece will always have longevity over just about everything in the industry and the fact that it even managed to remain this big this long is absolutely unreal.

All I did was say that OP isn't even the most popular series in the magazine RIGHT NOW, and if they managed to find another one once, they can probably do it again. It'll take time, but it'll happen. People used to say the same thing before and then KnY happened.