Why couldn't this part have been good? it had everything going for it in terms of characters, setting, and the plot involving Kira but it got botched into a confusing mess.
Literally the only genuinely memorable arcs always involve Kira; otherwise the only ones I can think off the top of my head are Highway Star, and Rohan before he became an ally and maybe Harvest.
Was there any tangible way part 4 could have been fixed or improved?
Part 4 is plenty of people's favourite part, me included. Although I understand why it might not be something you personally enjoyed. It's a bit of a departure from previous arcs.
>Was there any tangible way part 4 could have been fixed or improved?
This might be a cop-out, but this can only really be answered based on what you value in a Jojo story. It's a boring response but it is what it is. This board is filled with shitposting faggots that refuse to hold a measured, civil debate.
The people on Yas Forums who like Part 4 are a very vocal minority. Most oldfags considered it to be one of the worst parts. It wasn’t until we got Yas Forums crossboarders and Reddit newfaggots that Part 4 started to be liked.
To me, 4 was somewhat of an oddball. I love Josuke and crew but the focus got spread out too much. Not all fillers were bad (RPS Kid is a personal favorite) but a lot of it felt like JoJo's Kooky Town instead of Bizarre Adventure.
>The people on Yas Forums who like Part 4 are a very vocal minority. Most oldfags considered it to be one of the worst parts.
>t. redditor
Part 4 is extremely popular due to old DUWANG memes alones.
Most oldfags considered 5 and 1 to be the worst parts while 3 and 4 were the most popular until Steel Ball Run came out (which was what actually made JoJo threads more or less regular thanks to scanlations and Shizuka's efforts) and the Part 2 anime dropped which opened the gates to secondary posers like you.
Personally I think you're both wrong. I think it's borderline impossible to gauge what are the least or most popular parts from posts on here because people have such mixed opinions on the topic. There are large groups of people that will never nearly every part is both the best and the worst. I think I have seriously seen someone say every single part is the best at least a couple of times and same with parts being the worst.
To answer your question OP, I don't think it could be fixed for the people that don't like it. Araki's intentions with that part was that for most of it there was no big bad guy and it was just wacky stand adventures in a weird town. The whole premise of it is what the people who don't like it dislike about it. They want more structure and more of a point to the story which for most of it there is none. It's why I personally like Parts 5 and 7 more as far as Stand of the week parts go. I prefer the character's actually having an understood goal and working towards it.
maybe part 4 isnt confusing at all and youre just a fucking moron
>it had everything going for it in terms of setting
Fucking what
How is random japanese town better than literally half the fucking Orient.
>Why couldn't this part have been good?
It was
These Part 4 threads are going to make me start filtering jojo threads, and I'm a fan of the series
It shows that adventure can be found anywhere, even in a small town
Too bad part 4 didn't show that
ENTER CHADKUYASU
>has one of the most busted stands in the series, even Keicho and Akira scared shitless of it
>doesn't suffer from Redemption Demotion syndrome, was strong but stupid from the start
>had a shit life, never complains
>mentally retarded, still a bro
>knows he's retarded, still tries to follow his own path, but doesn't turn down help from others
>has fine taste, is into MILFs
>loves his brother Keicho even after the horrible things he's done, and even after Keicho says he could kill him with no remorse
>never tries to excuse or justify his brother's actions despite loving him, knew he had it coming
>gets shot by thousands of microbullets in the face
>survives
>gets his arm torn off and dragged through a powerline
>survives again
>gets a chunk of his torso blown out
>survives yet again
The only part that was truly bad was Golden Wind.
is this actually a "part 6 thread" joke?
Here's Okuyasu. Josuke and Hayato are sure he's dead after Killer Queen/Stray Cat blew a hole in his chest, to the point he even lacked a pulse. But because Araki apparently forgot to properly develop Okuyasu throughout the part, he gets a last-minute scene of forced character development where he sees Keicho in the brink between life and death and decides to return to Morioh without having to be guided by his brother. He then wakes up in the nick of time to save Josuke from death. This is basically a Deus ex Machina.
Pretty much everything in part 4 is forced and dishonest.
Part 4 just feels so small. Part 3 was an epic story of adventure and vengeance, and part 5 wasn’t quite as big but it was certainly intense. Part 4 is sandwiched in the middle and it’s a little awkward. I think it’s good it just doesn’t do well when contrasted with the adjacent parts.
What kind of autist keeps making these threads?
Pucci literally created the SBR universe
Part 4 is my 2nd favorite. Kira is a very likeable villain, Josuke and Okuyasu's antics were great. Even Koichi was fun at times beyond whinning to much and getting free power-ups.
Jotaro was pointless though, and the only good thing he did was surprise ora Kira.
explain it how then, you retard
I don't understand how reviving someone with a stand works
Joseph bled dry and got revived
Okayasu fucking died but got revived
Josuke's grandfather got killed and could not be revived
It works on a power of asspulls alone just like most things in Jojo universe
>It works on a power of asspulls alone just like most things in Jojo universe
based
I liked that guy who could smell trough the sole of his feet, good shit.
Was alien guy ever explained?
This. It just wasnt a great epic like the previous sagas (where the fate of the world was always at risk). Nevertheless I enjoyed it vey much.
This
Jojo always has had the most basic storytelling and the shittiest consistency in manga/anime (and that says a fucking lot about it). What carries the show is the character design and writting, focusing in anything else is just masochism.
This is literally "Turn your brain off: the Anime"; do that and you will enjoy it plenty, trust me.
In my head JoJo is a trilogy and everything after Jotaro vs DIO is a spin-off
Part 4 is my second favourite spin-off, right behind Part 7 (I still haven’t read Part 8)
Steel Ball Run wouldn't have been written without Araki destroying the OG universe
Checkmate
>Joseph bled dry and got revived
Joseph didn't die and his soul was just Jotaro seeing things
>Okayasu fucking died but got revived
That was his resolve, and since his body was perfectly fine, he came back
>Josuke's grandfather got killed and could not be revived
His grandfather most likely didn't have enough resolve to come back since he didn't have much reason to. He was already old was gonna die soon anyway
Based
The answer is you are retarded unless you mean that Pucci and his stand where so shit that they forced Araki to stare over.
Just skip Part 4.
This, worst part
I'm tired of seeing this thread over and over again.
>Was there any tangible way part 4 could have been fixed or improved?
Yeah, it's called Part 8
I still haven’t read jojolion
Is there a version of Okuyasu in it?
> part 4 bad threads / posts everywhere
Now the cycle shifts to hating part 4.
And this is better than travelling around a continent how ?
Technically yes, but the character that is supposed to be the Part 8 version of Okuyasu is only relevant in one arc and never does anything again.
jojo is best talked about literally everywhere other than Yas Forums. These threads are made by bots who keep reposting the exact same format of "part 4/5 bad part 1/2/3 best omg old jojo so better araki bad" thread templates which contrarian shitters swarm to like flies.
Youtube comment sections have better discussions about the series than Yas Forums somehow, the fanbase on this board is genuinely bottom-of-the-barrel tier.
Because you get to see people with stands trying and failing to live normal lives, rather than just an endless string of assassins.
Based
Part 8 is part 4 done right
because theyre just random generic places that have no impact on the story
What kind of trash ass opinion is this that's not based on anything.
Part 5 was faaaaaaar and away considered the worst part with part 1 common regarded second worst. Part 4 was generally liked outside of issues certain people had.
>fillers
That would be cool but part 4 is just endless stand battles with no context.
Kyo might become relevant soon. Araki wouldn't do this and not have any meaning behind it
They have a context in the second half since they're minions created by Kira's dad
What is this user? Are there two of this picture in the manga?
How many times are you going to remake this thread?
Can I just skip part 6 bros? I already know the universe reset stuff and I am way too hyped for part 7.
The one on the right is from when Jobin was introduced, and the one on the left is from a fairly recent chapter
>inb4 how many slices of bread meme
Interesting. Thanks
yeah part 6 sucks more than part 4
Read it retard.
Yes
Don't read it.
Part 6 is a fun read, probably the most bizarre part so I'd say it's worth going through.