FMA (2003) was much better than Brotherhood. Holy fuck, Brotherhood was the Saturday morning shounen garbage version of FMA (2003). People only like it better because A) Better animation because it was made later. B) People enjoy consume shounen garbage because they are retarded. C) People are retarded. D) “Muh followed the manga”, which is a shit argument when the manga is retarded. FMA (2003) was clearly the adult version.
>FMA (2003) >Relation and search of the brothers is much better. >Strong theme related to the dangers and ethics of science. >Villain is human and has a human motivation. Is suffering from a real ill and has real weaknesses. Needs the philosopher stone to live but understand the danger of creating one. Has to manipulate things from behind the scene in order for someone to get it from them. >Villain is defeated because of her own pride and arrogance (eaten alive by gluttony). >Homunculi are much better, work as story driven pillars that remind everyone of the dangers of alchemy and stepping into god’s realm. >Ending has a moral: people don’t get what they deserve, they get what they sowed.
>FMA:B >Villain is an ALIEN FROM SPACEEEEEEEEE (or insert any what the fuck non human I WANT TO BE GOD cliché here). >Villain is defeated because everyone SHOT BULLETS TOGHETER! YEAH! >Homunculi are the villains sin, from an ALIEN FROM SPAAAAAACEEEEEEEE! (or man in the jar, whatever, same shit). >IN the end happy ending for ALL! Remember all the people Scar murdered in the first half of the show? No? Well, they also don’t! > Shounen anime faces jokes all the time XD LoL, so random.
Liking FMA:B more than FMA (2003) is the biggest indicator of mental retardation.
FMA (2003) is refined Shounen. FMA:B is garbage shounen generic trash.
Evan Morales
I do prefer the 2003 ending to brotherhood's ending.
Joshua Sanchez
Brotherhood ending has no moral at all. It's the "everyone is happy let's celebrate because the alien of space was defeated by our bullets" ending. Disgusting.
Benjamin Peterson
that one autistic user didn't post his obligatory "I couldn't take it seriously anymore when they got to the WWII part/really jumped the shark when they got to the hitler bit" yet
I guess he died off from the virus
Anthony Martin
I prefer 2003 but the manga isn't garbage. 2003 owes a lot of it's qualities to it after all.
Colton Carter
2003 is a shitty fanfic. Literally Soul Eater adaptation and DTB S2 tier. Bones deserves to go bankrupt.
Ryder Williams
I know where you fucking live, you little piece of shit. GO on, post that shit. I'll pay you a visit today. You fucking little wanter. I'm gonna rape all your family and break quarentine to do it.
Ethan Young
2003's Elric brothers are forever changed after learning the secret behind the stone, and actively judges other people for how they have used it for the rest of the show, always hesitating to use it because of the moral implications.
Brotherhood Elric brothers become momentarily shocked that the stone is capable of turning into a macguffin shortly after exposing its secrets. Proceeds to actively use it and throw moral ambiguity out the window by saying "I'm using it for a just cause"
Evan Richardson
>the fanfic is better than the creator's actual vision because I'm a contrarian who must hate all popular things
Justin Brown
2003 treats the lives lost not in its numbers, but in the death itself. 1 life lost is tragic, and is as tragic as the lives of millions lost in a war.
Brotherhood treats lives as a makeshit powerlevel system. Every villain proceeds to have a spiritual dick-measuring contest by flaunting exactly how many people they have killed while the Elric brothers show momentary frustration before forgetting about it mere chapters later.
Sebastian Fisher
Yes.
Grayson Martin
no
Connor Reed
the fanfic is better because it's just better
Levi Morris
You're right. Brotherhood was just better. The villain was an alien from space and they defeated it because they shoot bullets at it.
Don't you think lord of the rings would be much better if all this time sauron was some kind of aline from space, and bilbo and galdalf and aragorn all got to shoot bullets at it and win? God... Tolkien was such a retard...
Ryder Clark
THIS. A thousand times this. Holy fuck. Deaths are power levels in FMA:B.
Juan Brooks
I like both of them. The first one was more charming and grounded, but Brotherhood had some pretty cool action scenes. (Also, I liked that blonde titty monster. 2003 didn't have her.)
Definitely preferred the villain in the first one. It was amazing when it was revealed that there was a city beneath the city and it was all cyclic. The Elric clone villain dude at the end of Brotherhood was a bit too supersaiyan for me.
Brotherhood also had that dumb "nooo, you can't kill this literal monster that has killed millions of people, or you'll be just as bad!" garbage. Instead, Mustang had a much more grounded fight with the Fuhrer at the end.
I watched the 2003 movie too, and it was really weird. I can't say I thought it was very memorable, but the concept was somewhat interesting.
Nathan Bailey
Both have garbage dubs. But probably 100% posters in this thread are shitty MALdubfags.
Eli Johnson
I can always take the opposite route and mention how much I enjoy that ending. Anime Hitler is fun.
Christian Peterson
>Instead, Mustang had a much more grounded fight with the Fuhrer at the end. It was a great fight but they really could have come up with a better Deus Ex Machina than Selim being an exceptionally retarded kid who sneaks into a burning building with no second thoughts
Ian Cook
I'm really surprised to see other men of culture. I thought everyone else preferred Brotherhood. I always found the 2003 anime to be vastly superior in themes, characters and story.
Zachary Rogers
Manga was the best really.
First anime should have followed the manga faithfully but didn't. Especially since it had far better execution of direction than brotherhood did which followed the manga. It would've been better.
Unfortunately, back then, they didn't go with season installments like they do with most anime now.
Christian Gray
I preferred the pacing in brotherhood. 2003 felt longer and was boring in places. I also prefer Mustang and Greed's character arcs in brotherhood (even though they are great in both).
Mason King
No, I swear one day I'll fucking strangle one of the faggot ops who makes this fma is better than fma:b because me no like popular thing threads. No it wasn't better than brotherhood you fucking flaming faggot and we don't need a thread talking about this every fucking week
2003 had better use of lighting and wide shots that helped ground the setting. It also benefited from little character moments like Ed and Al playing cards on the train. Brotherhood felt like an RPG in sections because characters were moving so quickly from place to place.
Luke Gomez
Brotherhood >>>>>>>>>>>> 2003
Just accept it.
Blake Roberts
But the Hellsing tv anime was shit
Nolan Flores
How many times are we going to have this thread this week? Anyone with half a brain can tell you that 03 is better than Brotherhood but 03 compared to the manga is not so clear cut.
Ryder Thompson
Pretty sure that's the joke.
Robert Cook
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Christian Morales
>Remember all the people Scar murdered in the first half of the show? No? Well, they also don’t! What happened to Scar in Brotherhood? I completely forgot.
Elijah Peterson
>Brotherhood also had that dumb "nooo, you can't kill this literal monster that has killed millions of people, or you'll be just as bad!" garbage. If you're referring to Mustang vs Envy, you missed a point that was spelled out in big letters for literal children.
Angel Scott
Why does this scene bother so many anons?
Oliver Scott
>secondary animepleb opinion Ok retard
Isaiah Hill
haven't seen the first one in a while i remember the first part in the 2003 is better but then you can see when they start make stuff up, it gets a bit shit. However the ending and the whole Conqueror of Shamballa movie is kino as fuck and much better than brotherhood ending
Dylan Flores
Because instead of having Mustang kill Winry's parents they shove that onto Scar and kill any depth that could've come from that scene.
Kevin Nguyen
Funny because Wrath is basically anime Hitler, except much more villain sue-ish and fedora tippy.
Jayden Scott
This is my only chance of watching a Fullmetal Alchemist and honestly, I just want to end it so I can bury this series already. So to compromise, I need the material closest to the original and make an assessment to that.
Michael Diaz
03 fags everybody
Tyler Rodriguez
>The villain was an alien from space and they defeated it because they shoot bullets at it. You are genuinely retarded if this is your take away from brotherhood.
Nolan Cook
Not even the best 03 op, and best op of the franchise is golden time lover.
Aaron Taylor
Because they misinterpreted it as ‘if you kill him youre as bad as he is’
Jaxson Garcia
Based
Carson Barnes
Brotherhood's endihng is so dumb. They just beat Homunculus because indeed, they just do and work together, and at the end Ed can give Al a body back just by trading his ability to perform alchemy, what kind of tagged on ending is that? 2003's ending was far more powerful: they're together; Al has his body, but they will never see their friends again and possibly perish in WWII.
Xavier Thompson
Because it's retarded. The assumption that Mustang killing Envy would be an indicator that he would be a bad leader to the country is very foolish.
Luis Martin
So why doesn't anyone talk about how alchemy doesn't even exist in Brohood? It's casually mentioned that everything is routed through Father and without him the only people capable of doing it are Scar and the chinks.
Nolan Clark
It wasn't about killing it was about making emotional decisions.
Michael Cox
In that case it's extra stupid because killing him was the emotional and rational decision to do, he was just enjoying himself while doing so. But the problem is also to think that being vengeful is necessarily a bad quality for a leader. If you are able to act in such way that the other will believe that you will retaliate even when it's not rational, they are less likely to go against your interests when you wouldn't gain anything from relatiating against them in the first place.
John Diaz
>>Villain is human and has a human motivation. Is suffering from a real ill and has real weaknesses. Needs the philosopher stone to live but understand the danger of creating one. Has to manipulate things from behind the scene in order for someone to get it from them.>Villain is defeated because of her own pride and arrogance (eaten alive by gluttony). She was forgettable but in hindsight her writing was very interesting. They needed to introduce her earlier, though.
No he was doing it purely to avenge hues for his own sake he wasn't thinking of anyone else and was acting recklessly. Actions like that dont make a good leader.
Landon Hill
>FMA (2003) was MUCH BETTER than FMA:B I don't think this discussion even needs to be had. Forget about Brotherhood, what needs discussion is whether FMA 2003 is one of the best anime ever made. It's certainly top five for me.
Juan Edwards
Scar and the chinks would be a good band name desu