To clarify: I don't mean the cases where the villain is secretly a good guy, or when he/she has a change of heart and join the heroes.
I'd like to see antagonists (or anti-heroes) who are pragmatic about their goals, take reasonable steps towards the completion of said goals and have compelling reasons and motives behind their actions. They can be selfish, power-hungry and pretty villain-y in general - "reasonable" does not equal "nice" or "good".
Do you know any such characters, Yas Forums?
Reasonable antagonists thread
Grayson Lewis
Jonathan Robinson
After losing his family in a terrorist attack in a Western country perpetuated by third-world terrorists, the antagonist of Genocidal Organ literally starts convincing leaders of undeveloped third-world countries to start committing genocides on minority groups. The antagonist does this with the sole intention of sparking civil wars in the third world, which will close borders in the first world, increase racism in the first world, and heighten security world-wide so that third-world immigrants from undeveloped countries are blocked and even banned from entering first-world countries, so that terrorist attacks perpetuated by "savage" third worlders can never happen in Western countries again and that nobody in the West has to die so coldly. His end goal is for every third world country to just kill eachother while the West and Far East watches obliviously with no clue what's going on beyond "We must defend our borders from these violent people."
The protagonists even admit that the antagonist's technically correct, but stops him anyways because it's his job. Despite the antagonist's plans being thwarted, the protagonist chooses to cover-up what the antagonist did so the rest of the world doesn't know what truly happens.
Adam Moore
Antagonist does not mean villain.
Connor Stewart
Pretty much every GITS antagonist.
Angel Brooks
That sounds like an anime Yas Forums would write
except he would be the protagonist
Brandon Evans
It was actually crazy to me how the movie tries to justify and explain genocide to its audience.
Bentley Adams
No, having him be acknowledged by the protagonist only makes the message stronger.
Thomas Smith
Protagonist says that first world lives are more important than those killed in entire genocides in the third world?
Michael Wilson
he said villains
Jayden Green