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Can Yas Forums speak to the validity of this chart?
Austin Flores
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Carter Powell
I heard that the chart is outdated, but I can tell you that I've never had problems buying or importing lolicon material in California. And from what I understand, elsewhere it comes down to state obscenity laws that are rarely enforced. Sort of like sodomy laws in certain states that makes it technically illegal for you to receive a blowjob from your wife. So in general, unless you're checking out material in a public library or a work computer you needn't worry even in Florida or Texas.
Kevin Taylor
This
The goverment can barely fucking manage to catch people with Cheeze Pizza half the time, they DO NOT have the resources to investigate, arrest, and prosecute every guy wacking it off to funny drawings.
At the very most they'll count loli as CP when you've also got pictures/videos of real kids being diddled on
John Ramirez
Loli/shota content of any kind cannot get you put in jail. This has been proven dozens of times. That chart is fear mongering nonsense. Obscenity law has never once convicted a person for possession of loli/shota art of any kind (excluding those who took a plea due to owning actual illegal content).
On top of this the amount of time and money multiple organizations (both government and private) would have to invest to even know you are looking at these cartoons is far beyond what you would ever be worth. If you are concerned about a daki or fig head on over to the fig thread and use their handy guide on how to bring that stuff in without it getting stolen or confiscated.
Fucking newfags, I swear to god.
Andrew Martinez
While they can't put you in jail, they will try anyways and still get you drowning in legal debt. Just look at this 2012 case.
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>"While one always wants to be able to change the rules in court, those opportunities are rare, and in this case the defense's extraordinary effort in persuading the crown to drop criminal charges is a very positive conclusion. We are now focusing our efforts on raising money to pay off Ryan's legal debt. We are also working with Ryan and experts in the manga community to create educational tools to help others from needing to go through anything like this themselves. We hope that people will donate to the CBLDF to help us achieve these goals quickly."
Camden Young
The chart is concerned over prison, so I stopped it at that. And made a point of bringing up how unlikely it is you'll ever have issues. That being said your warning is not the only thing to remember. You don't need to be convicted of anything to be put on the Sex Offenders Registry in the US. Always something to keep in mind.
But yeah that 2012 case gets brought up every time a board has this discussion. He really didn't do himself any favors to begin with. Leafs are a bunch of morons.
Elijah Lopez
I vaguely recall the story of one knucklehead who was caught with loli, and the judge really wanted to dismiss the case and let the guy off, but the moron kept pleading guilty and tied the court's hands. I didn't look into it, so it could be bullshit.
Nathaniel Sanders
>ok you definitely didn't violate the law, and we were wrong all along this long grueling battle, where absolutely everyone learned that you are a PEDOPHILE (child raping psycho), but we will still implicitly punish you as much as our bureaucracy allows it
This is why I can't take the west seriously when it's talking shit about other legal systems like the fucking Sharia.
Parker Baker
My entire country is a red zone yet that doesn't stop me.
Camden Bailey
I don't see how a judge could strip him of his first amendment right. I guess he could fine him for the trouble he caused the state?
Freedom isn't always a pleasant or personally beneficial thing.
Alexander Sullivan
A true hero and a real human being
Jonathan Collins
and all colors represent the areas where being found with loli material is social suicide
Julian Cox
>implying an isp cant flag activity from blacklisted domains and report 6 months of your anime tiddy history to your federal anime deathsquad police, automatically
Dylan Cooper
From what I recall, the judge didn't want to move the case forward at all, but had to accept the guilty plea.
Michael Miller
There was a famous Iowa case where a guy went to jail because of his imported doujins
Ethan Kelly
>Freedom isn't always a pleasant or personally beneficial thing.
Yes, the freedom to be a debt slave for life. So much better than Shariah Law which outlaws the essential human right of usury.
Owen Russell
I wish I were clever or well read enough to make the obligatory Orwell reference here.
Juan Johnson
There is no instance in America of someone being arrested and charged based on loli artwork.
Specifically laws in America that forbid "loli" art are specifically made so somone cannot produce child porn, then draw over it, and then re-sell it sayings it's just a drawing, it has nothing to do stopping the import of jap doujins
Parker Morris
This is what happens when you have prosecutors who prioritize convictions over justice, public defenders who don't do shit, and an idiot who's obviously in no mental state to make his own plea.
Convictions have been either
>Guy pleads out because he's terrified
or
>Guy happened to have actual CP.
The latter is probably why prosecutors just cast a net and see what they catch. If they get the former it's all good to them.
Juan Smith
You're trying really hard to derail the thread with Yas Forums shit. Think it'll work, senpai? Yas Forums can be rather gullible, after all.
Robert Ortiz
I always just understood the loli thing in the US being about actual exploitation of real life children, and the things mentioning depictions essentially there so actual pedos don't just rotoscope or trace CP to get around the law.
Eli Ross
>if you think being bankrupted for defending yourself in court from criminal prosecution is a bad thing, you must be from Yas Forums
John Moore
Something something the ministry of love something something west erurasia
Jayden Brown
No mention of shariah that time, but still straying from the Yas Forums related topic of lolicon material and its murky legality. I'd say if you want to make an impassioned indictment of the western legal system in general this isn't the best thread. But you know that, and I doubt you care. Feel free to carry on regardless to see if you can get the back and forth you're looking for.
Jeremiah King
>going to exhentai will get you gunned down in the streets like a dog
Oh you two are talking about Handley yeah ok. He plead guilty due to lack of money. I assume the thinking was taking the loss over losing more financially. Mind you all he had to do was get a court appointed and fight it out.
There are specific laws about tracing. Depictions came in around with the obscenity act which was only made for political power reasons.
David Johnson
But user, under shariah law you would instead be brutally murdered for watching anime.
Thomas Cooper
Time to build a loli folder.
Lincoln Jackson
>Obscenity law has never once convicted a person for possession of loli/shota art of any kind
United States v. Taylor, ACM 38700
Ryder Thomas
I think that's the goal. There's a federal law to that effect, that specifically excludes loli and cartoon stuff and regards them as A-OK so long as they're easily distinguished from actual child exploitation images.
Ah, so that's the name of the case. I remember it being brought up a few times in threads like these years ago, but the details escaped me. Thanks.
Ayden Ramirez
I should have been caught years ago, but the authorities are likely too busy dealing with baltimore's degeneracy.
Anthony Rivera
>United States v. Taylor, ACM 38700
>Taylor pleaded guilty to being a felon in possession of a firearm in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 922(g). At the time, Taylor had four prior convictions—one for robbery, one for assault, and two were for second-degree burglary under Missouri law. The government sought the sentence enhancement under the Armed Career Criminal Act, codified in 18 U.S.C. § 924(e):
Am I missing something here?
Levi Adams
Go for it. It's never too late to become cultured.
Charles Stewart
And, I am saving that.
Dylan Turner
have the video?
Jonathan Campbell
It's a VICE documentary if I recall, it's really a bit too stupid to sit through.
Gabriel Perry
As a bonus each posting of that image comes with a free bad faith argument about under reported statistics, etc.
Isaiah Butler
Will do.
Nathan Smith
It's bullshit, at least the US part, because we have the first amendment
Not sure about the canuckholds up north, though.
Chase Morris
Death by loli shootout with feds sounds like a pretty good way to go. Protect 1a and the thing you love most.
Robert Peterson
Let's get one thing absolutely straight here: lolicon is legal everywhere in the United States of America under the First Amendment to the Constitution.
>B-B-B-BUT MUH STATES RIGHTS
None of these obscenity laws have been challenged in court, and they'd get absolutely fucked in the ass if they did. America bros are protected by the greatest and most important document ever written in the history of humanity.
Jackson Powell
Lolicon? Pedophile? No no, please call me Child molester.
Aiden Perez
Sure thing Child molster~sama.
James Jones
Please good sir! I am an Art Lover, refer to me as nothing less!
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Anthony Scott
Canada doesn't really enforce it's loli law and only really puts its foot down when it's the real thing. But if they go after you for the real thing and also discover you have 2D loli, they'll count it as the real thing.
A lot of the Canadian cases you see people use as examples in threads like these are real 3D pedophiles who happened to also have 2D loli on their harddrives are twisting their story around claiming they got busted for drawn loli to gain sympathy over the internet.
Be skeptical of all the sob stories you see of Canadians claiming they got arrested or charged for drawn loli, odds are they got caught for something more extreme and loli was just a part of the charge.
Connor Gutierrez
>appeals court refuses to hear your case
Whoops!
Grayson Gomez
Imma call you The Diddler
Ryder Collins
>they'll count it as the real thing.
sounds like a shithole to me
Julian Flores
kino
Henry Anderson
It's a good thing that's never happened when it comes to loli/shota then.
Daniel White
>tfw you live in a third-world country that doesn't even give a shit about people getting mugged or murdered in cold blood in plain daylight, much less will give a shit about you seeing lines of digital ink fucking each other.
Jordan Walker
>Death by loli shootout with feds sounds like a pretty good way to go
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Ayden Myers
Certainly, it must be Heaven on Earth.
Dominic Barnes
Its only a problem if your family doesnt have the cops on payroll
Brody Myers
Nicholas Powell
Daniel Williams
I have no idea what it's actually like in Ontario. I have faith that the goverment at the very least has something better to do than go after people who mind their own business and fap to drawings on the internet.
Dominic Campbell
Just watch this video
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Justin Hill
I wonder if the author killed himself IRL.
Brandon Wilson
I stand corrected, from now on I will make a note to mention that I am not including a military judge when speaking on these matters. Thank you for informing me. And in retrospect that does make some sense, the military deals with offenses differently. Though I don't know, still somewhat troubling.
Robert Nguyen
where does castro jr. live?
that probably explains a lot (of who is downloding all the loli porn [male] in that area)
Alexander Jenkins
It's strange that these types of obscenity cases are only found in the military.
This guy's case was predicated on whether or not his barracks was considered personal space. Interesting stuff.
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Joshua Edwards
>During a health and welfare inspection of Appellant’s dormitory room,
Appellant’s first sergeant discovered children’s clothing and sex toys in a desk drawer.
It seems it wasn't the material alone that got him in trouble.
Cooper Rivera
Why all of you hate islam then?
Easton Wright
It's all too complicated. A pile of technicalities and bias. You would think enlisted men would be allowed to reprieve for fuck sake. Does R and R mean nothing anymore?!
>hating Muhammad