Bleach

Why did Kubo retcon her into being Kenpachi’s zanpakto spirit?

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Because Kubo is a hack.

Probably didn't have a good idea for what to do with that spirit, or with her, and so just collapsed them into a single problem/solution.

The most egregious part was the fact that Kenpachi never even realized she's his Zanpakuto despite learning its name and unlocking its bankai.

Kenpachi isn't the smartest cookie

Or that since it was said a Zanpakuto and it’s user have nearly identical Reshi, and they have Reshi detection devices that can tell how closely it matches someone else, nobody else knew either.

People had that theory for almost the entire time since they appeared. It wasn't a shock to anyone when it was finally confirmed

Best girl

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Kenpachi looted his Zanpakuto from some dead dude. It was the dead guy's Zanpakuto spirit beforehand. Bleach never really discussed much on Zanpakutos inherited or given to others like what if Ichigo spent more time with Rukia's powers. Only case is CFYOW where lots of assassins with looted Zanpakuto from Quincy wars managed to use them.

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I'm more confused by how his shikai works. Didn't Yoruichi say it's a constant shikai one like how Ichigo's "normal" form isn't a katana but his shikai? I guess she got it wrong?

>Didn't Yoruichi say
No, I don't think it was her.

What would Yoruichi know about shikai, she fucking abandoned her shikai.

She says she's stronger without it even though she can do bankai. Methinks it's weeping somewhere in Urahara's closet.

I wouldn't really believe that. Bankai is like the ultimate form for a shinigami's weapon. Yoruichi's strongest form was made by Urahara himself. Yoruichi of course has a strong Reiatsu to maintain and utilize that form but still, what I would give to see her bankai.

It isn't, he actually gained a shikai, it's a big cleaver/axe thing. It was also implied from the start that it wasn't in shikai from his fight with Ichigo, that he and his sword were fighting each other rather than working together.

Nothing from the series indicated that Yachiru knew that Kenpachi was her shinigami until he unlocked his shikai

Aizen's a case where his zanpakuto is illusion based and his other abilities would be more than enough to straightforwardly defeat most enemies without his zanpakuto.

>tfw you will never loot your own zanpakuto

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I want to make love with Orihime

i think kubo wanted to save it for a final hype but he gradually forgotten about it.

Wrong. Without the Hogyoku Aizen wouldn't have abandoned his Zan. Again, an outside interference to power themselves up. And while Aizen's pretty much permanent, Yoru's came from Urahara and even then it was very situational.

>acquire asauchi
>imprint your energy sig on it
>it turns into a person
>somehow nobody realises with their dragon radars that they have the same frequency

If Bleach, or rather Kubo, has taught be anything, it's to never fucking believe what characters fucking say.
Remember when Rukia said you need Royal Guards to deal with trash like Menos?
Whether this is good or trash writing I have no idea.

What are you talking about?

I think it was a databook.

Aizen could easily leave his sword at home and still go to town. He's that strong.

I always interpret as she was born from violence and Zaraki claimed her spirit.

Unless Yama-jii is in that town. But Aizen himself made it clear that he lost his Zanpakuto because the Hogyoku boost was beyond whatever his Zanpakuto could offer anymore. And case in point, he's even capable of temporarily fool a god like Yhwach now.

CFYOW has Yoruichi say she has a Zanpakuto but functions better without it. A Zanpakuto is reflective of their user but it's never guaranteed to be a way the user desires. Hisagi dislikes the way his shikai looks. Yumichika regularly gets into fights with his. Soi Fon hates the way her bankai is unsuited to her usual sneaky fast ninja style. Yoruichi could easily have gotten such bad luck that her Zanpakuto is outright discomforting to use to the point where she has no qualms leaving it behind.

Temporarily fooling*

Sometimes it's good but that one was a retcon I think

>Yoruichi hates herself and that's reflected on her zan
);

Regardless, Aizen's tough enough that he can put his zanpakuto in storage and fight without it and not be inferior to most of the cast. Zanpakuto aren't glued to their bodies. Shinigami are able to go without them.

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Unohana's death was kino but fuck damn did that hurt

>Yoruichi's Zanpakuto? She stopped using it after that time I modified it to transform her into a dog.

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This is the face of an IchiHimefag.

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Yachiru's later existence in the manga being total bullshit that shreds suspension of disbelief. Characters are able to innately sense a persons IDENTITY FROM ACROSS A CITY, just by their energy signature and yet a person who was MADE from someone elses energy in 1:1 form via being their sword. And nobody fuckin noticing ever

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The only menos you’ve seen getting trashed was against the vizards and they were using their masks. I have no clue what the fuck you’re talking about

Yachiru has her own zanpakto and that’s what you’re worrying about?

>Hey Ichigo, congrats on the wedding and the son. Be sure to give him this sword when he gets older okay?

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Didn't it only start when Starrk's power was revealed? I don't recall seeing it earlier, but then again, I didn't catch up to the manga before 2008.

These are Huedo Mundo's current leaders.

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It depends on how much sense does it make for characters to think/say what they do. In Kubo's case, it's mostly trash writing.

You know, I wish I could be mad at all the inaccuracies in the manga but it is just so damn stylish with lovable characters. Plenty if shounen have boat loads of that kind of thing. Dragon Ball for one and no one bats an eye and it's the greatest shounen of all time according to metrics.

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Who cares? It's one big desert. And it's not like there was ever much of HM politics.

Yes, because they're all technically just bundles of energy holding sticks that are tainted with their own energy. But not noticing that one person appears to made out of the energy that makes up their friend seems a bit odd.

They will breed great hollows.

Where did you get that picture of me?

>Dragon Ball for one and no one bats an eye and it's the greatest shounen of all time according to metrics.
Not true. People generally agree that Cell saga is one gigantic Idiot Plot, for example. Also, since the SS arc, Bleach generally took itself way more seriously than DB ever did, trying to incorporate some serious themes and appear deep. Inaccuracies, plot contrivances etc. look much worse in this kind of a setting.

Why would grimmjow listen to either of those thots

Otherwise he's getting a spanking.

Please, DBZ took itself far more seriously with it's edginess after DB. Everyone keeps saying it should had ended after Namek with Frieza. Everyone ate up Cell Saga after the fact, and everyone ate up Buu Saga after the fact. Now we have faggots year later saying Bleach should had ended after SS after Rukia was rescued. Than everyone says it should had ended after Azein's defeat, etc, etc.

>Please, DBZ took itself far more seriously with it's edginess after DB.
There's taking itself seriously, and taking itself seriously. DBZ was rad as fuck, but it never tried to pretend it's anything that battle cartoon for kids, it never tried to appear deep. And I really wouldn't call DB edgy. Gantz, Berserk, that's edge. Out of shonen manga, HxH at times.
> Everyone keeps saying it should had ended after Namek with Frieza. Everyone ate up Cell Saga after the fact, and everyone ate up Buu Saga after the fact. Now we have faggots year later saying Bleach should had ended after SS after Rukia was rescued. Than everyone says it should had ended after Azein's defeat, etc, etc.
I'm really not sure what you're trying to say here. Yeah, both series have people thinking it decreased in quality, that's far from ignoring one's flaws, like said. And I don't think anyone's claiming "Bleach should have ended on SS arc", it's quite simply not a viable ending point compared to all the other examples you posted. People just claim it went to shit afterwards, which is a popular sentiment since mid-arrancar arc, from what I've witnessed.

It wasn't a retcon.

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I don't see where Bleach took itself seriously aside from having melodrama and making you care about it's characters. One of it's biggest accomplishments is how it portrayed Azien. It also had one of the greatest boy/girl team ups and friendships in modern shounen without any sexual tension aside from mentally ill shippers. A well balanced variety of cast of characters that nearly anyone could attach themselves to. Most of them were not done dirty by a premature ending.

All the faults in the manga can easily be overlooked or even repaired with a retelling. Which is what I'm hoping for at last. Until details for the production of the anime before the end of the year, god hoping with the pandemic causing chaos in the world. We might even get some added material to cover all the loose ends because of manga publication time restraints. Which is most likely what they will do since they had about four years to get a handle on what disappointed the fans the most with the rushed ending.

>Where did you come from?
>She touches the sword.
It was obvious from this page alone.

>neither name nor parents
Like all unnamed Asauchi
>the only color I remember was blood red
What else would a sword do except hack and slash and draw blood?
>being a baby I could easily have been stomped to death
"Forged not long ago, I could have broken easily in the hands of retards"
>gave me a name
Kenpachi was strong enough to imprint her, after being in the hands of weak retards.

Reread chapter 114 properly.
When Kenpachi asks "where are you coming from, kid", Yachiru touches the sword.
When he asks "aren't you afraid of it?", she smiles.
When he asks for her name you can see that she's opening her mouth but he doesn't seem to hear - which he couldn't for all the reasons we know.

Simply put, I think Kubo played it safe and opened for both the possibility that she was Kenpachi's zanpakuto spirit, or just a random unfortunate kid.
Either way, he gave enough clues for either scenarios to be plausible.
He simply decided to go for Yachiru being a spirit, and went with a convincing explanation.

If you can't even understand - much less discern - things that are plainly stated, I can only call you a brainlet.
Read nigga READ.
Text comprehension is important lad.

I still can't believe we didn't get any Hallibel for the last fight.

Yeah, what happened to the first sword Ichigo had anyways that was a somewhat actually normal looking albeit really wide katana?

God I wish that were me

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