Dragon Ball Super

Spopovitch was Piccolo tier here

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He'd die to any ki blast.

No, he's majingeta tier

I don't think so aside if being basically a zombie. Speaking of which powerlevels in DBZ were ridiculous like that. Raditz, a Saiyan wimp was several times stronger than Demon King Piccolo who was the strongest foe in Earth. Then we had Frieza becoming a laughable measure stick to assume the strength of newer characters based oh how many times stronger than him they were.

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im pretty sure raditz was actually strong for a saiyan

>as strong as a plant
No

To quote TFS Vegeta:
>"That's right, he was so weak we can actually grow Raditzes"

What's next for Bills ?

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only weak saiyans get paired up with the prince

He was weak compared to vegeta and Nappa who were probably the strongest elites among all Saiyans

Tambourine, maybe. With more durability and less speed.

Meant to quote

>Nappa strong elite
>Shit his pants when an opponent goes past 8,000
No wonder Frieza thought they were a joke.

Can Nappa even kill mooks like Appule?

Zeno is the real villain in Dragon Ball Super


An entity that destroys the souls of trillions upon trillions of living beings. He even mass murdered for his own amusement just to give warriors a reason to fight each other in a tournament.


The universes that he erased are gone for eternity, they were never brought back in the true sense. The only way to bring back an erased being/universe would be to go back in time a moment before getting erased and bring them to the present.


Why is Goku being so Chumy with Zeno? There is nothing more evil than destroying a soul which is exactly what Zeno does on an multi galactic scale.

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Zeno (the Thirsty Watermelon forma) is the real villain.

what would goten and trunks think of kefla

TOYOCHADS !! TOYOCHADS !!!
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS ??

9 MAY ???...

NO... NOOO... NOOOOOO !!!!

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you people need to stop thinking memes are canon, Raditz was born strong enough to get paired with Nappa and Vegeta, he was trash compared to both of them, but powerful compared with 99,9% of all U7 saiyans, most saiyans were probably barely better than Beets

>"A baby’s battle power is measured as soon as they are born. If their numbers pass a certain standard, then they are considered upper-level warriors and immediately raised as combatant candidates. On the other hand, those whose numbers remain low even after a certain amount of time has passed are regarded as lower-level warriors, and become either engineers or are sent off to a planet somewhere as “infiltration babies”1. If they grow strong enough to conquer that planet, then they can return to their home world as a combatant. However, infiltration babies do not have a high survival rate. Raditz was an upper-level warrior and assigned to the same group as Nappa as a proper combatant. Before long Vegeta was added to that group, too."

zeno is an autist

Either Goku doesn't care or he understands Zen-Oh's perspective. Mortals probably are less than ants to him/them in the grand Order of things. Zen-Oh cares about balance and fairness but only from his POV. Goku befriending him is actually a very good thing since it makes the little God aware of smaller beings and conflicts he usually ignores because they're usually too small to notice. Our mundane worries are still quite trivial to him but at least now he gives chances.

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But then Frieza manned up and became Gold Frieza and shot right back up to Goku's level. Just because a character debuted with a relatively low power-level doesn't automatically exclude any potential to become relevant again. Who knows, perhaps Cell could pull another resurrection too.

Probably, Appule wasn't THAT strong. The Ginyu Force would absolutely waste him though, even Guldo.

This is true but it took way too long and only because of his popularity. As far as Z and GT were concerned he was a joke by Buu saga. The image of Gohan one-punching him in the Fusion movie always comes to mind.

>Guldo
The fun thing is that he only gets the short end of the stick because this is Dragon Ball when someone can outmuscle the concept of time itself with enough strength. In any other universe Guldo would be fucking OP.

Guldo actually losing was legit, in that he could only freeze time for as long as he could hold his breath; Gohan and Krillin just finessed him and used their speed to catch him out.

Fucker should have done more deep breathing exercises.

>Toyotaro isn't a bad ar-

Gohan and Krilin had good ideas but ultimately underestimated Guldo and almost got killed by him if Vegeta hadn't sucker decapitated him.

>Gohan and Krilin had good ideas but ultimately underestimated Guldo and almost [headcanon]

honestly? i think Appule stomps. Appule was just under Zarbon, Dodoria, and Cui in the ranks, Cui was 18,000 (equal to pre-Zenkai Vegeta), even if Appule was just half of Cui that would be stronger than Nappa

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Let's see, in the canon movie, Goku remembers the strongest fighter he fought himself.
>Jiren
manga: Yes
Anime: Yes
>Dyspo
manga: barely, measly SS2 tier, arguable as to why the fuck he remembers him.
Anime: Yes, he is above SSG tier, and SSB tier at his full power.
>Toppo
manga: yes, but not in the ToP, barely above SSB tier (one shot Goku and somehow couldn't beat Bejita).
Anime: yes, almost SSBE tier.
>Kefla
manga: NO, he just saw her beating up some Pride Troopers fodder, she then fought his failure of a son to a draw.
Anime: yes, he needed Omen to defeat her.
>Ribrianne
manga: NO, he did not even acknowledge her existence at all
Anime: YES, he fought her and needed SSB to land a good blow on her, and she tanked it like it was nothing

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM. Chadnime Chadnon again.

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When Vegeta went super saiyan in the androids saga he was actually stronger than Goku when Goku went super saiyan against Frieza,

probably

Yes, but only because goku is being drained by Covid 19

Kill Tracertacocuckofuckopaco

>Nappa Redemption never ever

Super should just embrace its role as a fucking fanfic and give the people what they want

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GT did

>Super should just embrace its role as a fucking fanfic and give the people what they want
it did

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Super is as canon as GT, but the Mexicans here hate admitting it because Goku can punch even harder now.

You know what? Frieza has a fleet of flying saucers and has attacked Esryh twice yet we still havn't gotten an Independence Day homage sequence. And thats a damn shame

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Where? Gogeta? Nobody likes that weak literal who

>>Toyotaro isn't a bad ar-
He is. Notice how Toriyama has no backgrounds in his panels? That is because the character is the focus. In Toyotaro's remakes he puts in background shit which distracts the eyes. Generally Toriyama will do a few panning shots where nothing is happening just to plant the environment in the reader's head. Once action begins he stops drawing the background, or just a small portion like the ground they're standing on.

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Jesus Christ, is that screen shaking just the webm or in the actual movie?

Here is an example of him ignoring the background features. Its not a thing you would notice unless you specifically went looking for it. Toriyama has a lot of small tricks to help the reader understand the flow of what is going on.

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Imagine. We don't know Jiren's age but lets assume he is the same as Tardku.
All throughout his life, Tardku's achievements meant fucking nothing compared to Jiren's.
Oh, you're fighting petty tournaments against old men and triclops? Well Jiren is already SS1 tier.
Look at that, you could run all the way through the snake way. Jiren is already SS2 tier.
Wow you learned the KK! Jiren is SS3 tier already.
Wow, you got thrashed by Bejita-sama (0-1)? Jiren is SSG tier already.
Wow you arrive on Namek with 180k powerlevel? Jiren is SSB tier at this point
Grats! you are now SS1 level! Too bad Jiren at this instance is SSBKK10 tier.
Aww, took you a fucking year to learn a teleportation technique? Jiren used that time to soar to Omen tier.
Look at that! You attained SS2 and SS3 tier and lost to Bejita again! (0-2)! Too bad Jiren is now beating his GoD into submission and now is soaring to higher heights.
Oh my god, you finally beat Buu, gratz. Jiren is almost Angel tier.
Beerus one-shot you. You are SSG tier and finally surpassed Beerus with SSBKK. Jiren has already reached the utter limits of physicality and the very fabric of reality won't allow him to get stronger, lest he might shatter the universe apart.
You finally meet him and job to him multiple times (0-40), you asspull your way up to Angel tier as well! Good pup! you got h--- uh-oh, this man just went beyond the impossible, he shattered his limits and now he is between Angels and EGP tier. Game over. You are now relegated to SSBKK tier opponents which you need petty fusions to defeat.

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>wah wahh why does it shake so much? It makes muh head go dizzy dizzy
Shut the fuck up.

>considered resurrecting Raditz at first
>was visible shocked by the news of Vegeta's destruction (unlike Kid Raditz and Kid Vegeta) and was a bit unsettled when Raditz called his younger brother a disgrace
in despite of his brutish behavior Nappa was the most likeable out of the 3 surving saiyans

Forgive the mangadog, he's a new corona patient

Super is fanfiction and anything after Z is noncanon.

>We don't know Jiren's age
He's 28.
On his planet.

>I like it when shit is out of focus and not focused directly on animation

You fucking what m8?

He was being sarcastic user.

>literal inane babble
That's it pup, you got humiliated for posting fatuous wails.

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>oozaru are ten times stronger than base
>but saiyans stop regrowing their tails when their base form surpasses their oozaru form
So which is it Tori-bot?

are we only getting heroes now

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I'm a pup and I kneel

>but saiyans stop regrowing their tails when their base form surpasses their oozaru form

Where the hell is this from?

>numbers
no thank you

>why did Goten and Trunks and everyone else stopped having saiyan tail?
Then toriyama wrote that shit