>Japanese financial newspaper Nikkei posted an editorial on its online site on Tuesday discussing the effects of China's recent pivot to its domestic animation industry, bringing with it the rise of Chinese animation and the continuing fall of the Japanese anime industry.
>While the Japanese industry continues to see little to no domestic growth in recent years, Chinese companies have been ramping up resources in Chinese home-grown animation.
>Nikkei highlighted the higher wages enjoyed by animators working for Chinese-owned animation companies. Unlike the Japanese industry, which tends to rely on the work of freelancers,Colored Pencil AnimationJapan which makes animation streaned in China, hires Japanese animators as employees, and even new employees earn a higher-than-industry-average salary of 175,000 yen (approximately US$1,580) per month. Meanwhile, according to the Japan Animation Creators Association (JAniCA)'s most recent survey, only 14% of Japanese animators are permanent employees.
>over 30% of animation production studios in Japan were in the red in 2018. Bankruptcy and dissolving companies were also at a 10-year peak.
>The situation has made it harder to train young animators, and animation quality is also on the decline. According toColored Pencil AnimationJapan CEO Bunjirō Eguchi, there are even cases where the company has outsourced to Japanese contractors, only for the Chinese head company to harshly reject the low-quality work that the Japanese side produced. "The poor service on the Japanese side could trigger a stagnation in the industry," he cautioned. "China has used its abundant capital to procure the resources for digital animation, and the quality of their animation is improving noticeably. Japan previously outsourced to China, but now the situation has reversed."
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>According to the Association of Japanese Animations (AJA), the total market value for the anime industry in 2018 is 2.1814 trillion yen (approximately US$20 billion). On the other hand, only 267.1 billion yen (approximately US$2.4 billion) worth of the proceeds — a mere 12% of the market worth — went to animation companies. Nikkei observed that although approximately half of the anime industry's revenue comes from overseas, a larger share of the money is going to the production committees which handle the international rights than to the animation production companies. The production committee system prevents many studios from seeing profits even if they produce a hit anime.
>According to Teikoku Databank researcher Daisuke Iijima, Chinese companies are now trying to entice Japanese animators to work in China in order to expand their domestic market. "They can easily offer three times the annual salary an animator would get in Japan, so there will probably be more cases of Japanese talent going overseas." Nikkei cited a Chinese recruitment website, which had listings with a monthly salary of approximately 34,000 yuan (approximately US$4,800) and 30,000 yuan (approximately US$4,240) for animator jobs based in Hangzhou and Beijing respectively.
>Nikkei concluded the editorial with a gloomy forecast for the Japanese industry and the production committee system of financing anime. "The production committee system is effective at mitigating risks, but for the Japanese industry to be globally competitive, it is indispensable for it to have a system that ensures its profits are distributed effectively."
it's almost as if china is causing bleed out
what is the production committee system?
Its in my second post, the system where production committees get most of the cash rather than the studios.
I mean how does this system work?
Aren't anime production companies also outsourcing to places like South Korea, Vietnam and the Philippines? Can't they rely on those instead?
Think of production committees as like a companies, where companies invest a share in an anime's production, and gain profits accordingly. Studios may or may not be part of the committee, which can either be a blessing (if the anime ends up flopping) or a curse (if the anime ends up being a hit and they lose out on the profits; Actas and GuP is one infamous example).
Too long. Didn't Read. And you can now fuck off Michlan.
Complications with production aside, current China can't into art
that might change at some undefined point in the future but as long as the big daddy CCP is looking over everyone's shoulders and being touchy about the content, it's always gonna be some kinda generic, lukewarm, lowest common denominator bullshit, like Fairy Tail only with less tits
There will still be the odd success story (I mean, even RWBY is successful by some measure, sometimes terrible things are popular) but I don't think there's going to be some big usurpation of the animation industry, at least not in the immediate future
Funny thing is that there's an animation studio in Michlan's hometown that the Japanese studios outsource to. They did much of the work for YU-NO and I think they did some episodes for Hatena Illusion as well.
Jap publishers are fine with that and will simply produce in China. Quality? Who cares, fans will have to deal with the shit they get. It's not like they could give their money someone else instead.
A bunch of companies form a committee and invest in making an anime and related goods. They hire a studio to make the anime. Profits go to the committee, and hence back to the investing companies. Sometimes studios are on committees, but usually not, so they don't share the profits.
Well, the article stated in a study that in 2016, China had the biggest share in outsourcing contracts. In 2018, they are bow in 6th place, meaning, Japan would rather go to the US, Taiwan, Korea, and so on.
I don't think they believe in SEA quality and reliability yet, but as their windows close they will rely on them more.
A production committee is basically where producers from different companies, representing their specific company's interests, have input and say over an anime. They invest different amounts (if you look at the credits of an anime where they list each company, the higher that company = more money invested), and thus get to claim more of the revenue. But they also have a stronger claim to different portions. Like a disc sales publisher like Aniplex or Pony Canyon obviously wants to sell discs, but they also frequently control streaming rights, and can sell those licenses to streaming services. A merch company like Good Smile Company wants to sell their stuff. TV stations want ratings and content for their station, but sometimes they also have streaming rights and are the publisher of discs, if not the distributor.
If an animation studio is on the production committee, that means it hasn't invested or been invited to invest, and it has less opportunity to claim the revenue from the series. There have been many cases where a series was a huge hit in some fashion, but due to the animation studio just being a contractor, they don't see any of that money. Furthermore, even if the studio did invest, that doesn't mean that the (usually freelance and outsourced) artists and workers who made that happen will see any more money. Evangelion was the hit of the century, but Anno complained that Gainax got all the money for it even though hardly anyone at Gainax helped make it, and Tatsunoko Productions was more responsible for Eva. In Eva's case, he was able to negotiate with King Records for bonuses to the artists.
China doesn't really matter. The low pay and harsh conditions for anime workers, especially ones just starting out, is unsustainable. There's not enough help to go around, and there's been a number of animators who prefer to go into freelance western animation because it has better pay.
I have a legitimate question.
Do you seriously believe that most if not all of anime released right now, in 2020, is art? Serious question.
Getting slav weebs to animate and paying them with vodka and ciggies when?
>it's always gonna be some kinda generic, lukewarm, lowest common denominator bullshit
aha, like 90% of current anime isn't?
Look at the new GitS, it's not a particularly good idea.
My cum in your uncultured baitfag asshole is art
Ment for I'm sorry sir
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>trusting vatniggers with anything
The Japanese executives need to start paying people more and giving better schedules. Especially the writers. Only idiots would care about how pretty something looks if the writing, plot, characters, and story are complete shit.
Oh no, all that's going to be left to read is Wuxia. I hope you like cultivation manga
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But writers earn big money already.
Only writers have union.
Oh a union would explain why there's so much shit writing quality too. Unions only exist to garnish wages of people who can't earn it themselves.
Then they should bust that union and start paying the actually competent writers well.
I don't think there's a single "chinese anime" worth shit, or at least I haven't seen any. Japan has been progressively shittier every passing year for a while, too, but it still has its history and legacy and some of that survives today, even if it's less and less.
many will try to dispute you on this but fundamentally it's true, only the talentless rely on unions and protect their own at the expense of sanity, look at the teacher's union.
>if you're good at something you'll be paid more
you haven't worked a real job in your life
Your boss won't pay you more to suck his dick harder, bro.
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Capitalism is pretty much a global union for rich people.
there are 5 people in my company
the power problem is a consequence of scale
Yep, a union is just a racket that they can get away with due to work limitations. This guy does a pretty good job going over that stuff:
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If a union means you have "security" of keeping your job and getting paid a lot for doing a shitty job, especially something as important as writing on a huge entertainment project, then there's no reason to put in your best effort.
Nice opinion manipulation attempt sided with a clickbait article. Fuck off nigger.
no that would be crony capitalism, capitalism itself is merely the act of trade and exchange
I'll add to that that unions are often targeted by takeover and use in political manipulation, Disney and Ford both wrote on how this took place
>it's always gonna be some kinda generic, lukewarm, lowest common denominator bullshit,
I don't even like chineseshit and this is true for anime more than ever. Except sleeper hit 90% is isekai shit or CGDCT or similar.
"Capitalism" is about trade. You should look up "the double coincidence of wants" which means that both sides of a trade benefit in their own opinion.
>Commerce is the name given to the process of trade - buying an selling goods. Capitalism is a social system reliant on the extraction of surplus value from another's labour to create profit.
It's the attention-deficit Filipino Yas Forums Redditor. What do you expect?
I don't care if that shitty tripfag is using Kaguya, she's still perfection incarnate
God, this thread sure is a hotbed of plebbitors
Every SEAnigger is Michlan now?
You don't know what clickbait is.
Tangina sa lahat ng cancer na nagsilabasan eto pang mga tukmol na yan.
Art used to be something to cherish
Now literally anything could be art
This post is art
Nanay mo tukmol gago.
>redditor
>being this new
I never liked the namefag but I am pretty sure he's been here way longer than you. Fuck off with your boogeyman offtopic shit and go back to where you came from.
Get out of my board, pedophile flip.
>excuse me i dont like x person either but fuck off and stop shitting on him!!
Napipikon LMAO. Gusto mo ng chupon?
Schizo user is that you.
You fuck off too, raildexfag.
>I am pretty sure he's been here way longer than you
Why do Redditors always fall back to trying to show off their "user since" badge when exposed? Don't they know we have no such thing here?
Lurk for two years before posting, retard.
Thanks for proving me right I guess.
What are the ideologies that have a dogma that a news article about anime has to have its discussion be made impossible on Yas Forums?
Who's the one to gain anything from the discussion not happening, jews?
You mean,
>Tangina sa lahat ng cancer na nagsilabasan po eto pang mga tukmol na yan.
you little shit
>LMAO
Bumalik ka na sa Gedit, baguhan.
There should be a report option along the lines of "Thread has derailed", so that mods can leave the on-topic posts up but delete all the off-topic shitflinging and meme spewing garbage.
There is nothing useful about this thread.
Napipikon parin LMAO. Mauna ka tanga.