JoJo

Wrong.
Also the fight looks like garbage in DP's "adaptation".

Right but JoJo before part 4 was 80s gay, like big dudes in leather harnesses gay. Past that it becomes twink gay and twinks are losers.

Well, the fight WAS garbage so DP probably wanted it to be a honest portrayal. Araki's version was dishonest.

The OVA is better in almost every way. Art, animation, music, action, it just unfortunately left out basically everything that wasn’t important, which sucks because there were some really cool filler fights I would’ve loved to see in that style.

Yep. The OVA used the stands perfectly and added so much cool shit. Perfectly made use of timestop. Polnareff actually helping was 10/10

I forgot, did the OVA have the skull shattering part?

>diavolo
>abbacchio

Yes, but it made far more sense. Polnareff jumps in, stabs DIO, DIO stops time to counterattack but Jotaro has awakened thanks to this and shatters DIO's skull

But thats not what happens in the manga, so blame araki not the manga

>not the manga
the anime*

It's definetly better than people made it out to be. I'm watching the 00s version now and that one is much worse

>Perfectly made use of timestop
There are only a few flaws with the DP fight but the dubstep clock sound is by far the worst part of it. OVA timeskip largely being silent emphasizes how abrupt this kind of thing really would be and ups the intimidation factor.

Ultimate DIO is supposed to look like the manga, which is what the anime made.

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That oil tanker tho...it's like black marker on the mona lisa

I liked the explosion.

It's fine. Makes perfect logistical sense which is why the OVA fight the best representation of it.

>The OVA is better in almost every way. Art, animation, music, action, it just unfortunately left out basically everything that wasn’t important, which sucks because there were some really cool filler fights I would’ve loved to see in that style.

There was also one episode storyboard by Satoshi Kon, and it really REALLY showed

Abbachio

>still coping this hard
It's shit, DIO's voice is dogshit and every change made the fight and story worse.

Actual pleb right here, I bet you're an animeonly.

>Actual pleb right here
That implies you're the pleb and i agree. I already said this in your last shitty thread but the while point was for DIO to instantly overpower Jotaro when he transformed to show his increased power and raise the stakes and tension. Instead they trade as equals in a masturbatory choreography exchange which serves NOTHING except to make DIO look weak as fuck and let the retards who made it pat themselves on the back since it gives them the illusion they're making something of their own. DIO sounds like a massive pussy even discounting his lisp, and fuck them for taking out the steamroller.
>I bet you're an animeonly
No, and how does that help your argument, the OVA butchered the source material.

No

>perfect logical sense
>jojo

Yeah, where do you think HxH got all it's big brain crap from? JoJo was the first series with 1000 IQ fights.

Reminder that Joubin is going to fucking get it from the good son.

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HxH may have been inspired, but it's a lot more grounded in the logic department. HxH uses basic info that we know is available to the characters and has them work with it, Jojo is all about galaxy brain schemes where you're just waiting for the next absurd ruse.

based

It's not like you are wrong. But the manga has DIO do one cool chain punch and Road Roller before literally dying the next chapter. It's a massive deflation for what was at that moment a huge upgrade.

The entire finale is one giant asspull that doesn't make sense. But it's better then the OVA.

Yep. Don't bother with purist user-kun. OAV is vastly better than the anime and better than the manga as well (the manga format makes it slightly more okay for less things to happen after the powerup but still).

In general the OVA took a lot of great choices. No magnet shit -that was awful and didn't make any sense. Replacing the magazines with the planks from having been hit earlier? Eh, that's ok, neither good nor bad, I like that DIO "saved" Jotaro this way. It definitely improved this fight.

Such a Chad pose

>purist when you want things to make sense
>being passive-aggressive instead of trying to refute my argument
Everything the OVA did made the fight and story worse. Explain to me how that retarded prolonged exchange served any storytelling purpose and why the fuck did Jotaro not annihilate DIO before the powerup when he had no problem keeping up with him after it? To say nothing that Jojo's storytelling format goes directly against prolonged masturbatory choreography fights. Literally every move attempted in a fight is either an attempt to end it or a feint that leads into one.

Personally I think that DIO playing with his new power and toying with Jotaro fits his character better.

>Explain to me how that retarded prolonged exchange served any storytelling purpose
It doesn't have to. Choreography, tension, drama, and uses of timestop matter. The way DIO used timestop and stand brute force after his 100% was interesting and aesthetic.

>why the fuck did Jotaro not annihilate DIO before the powerup when he had no problem keeping up with him after it
He had troubles keeping up with him after the powerup. Also
>muh powerlevels
fuck off.

Jotaro vs DIO was a real climax and final boss in the OVA. In the anime, it was slightly more than a regular enemy. Frankly, Vanilla Ice felt more like a final boss and had more time to do stuff.

How does DIO's body combat blood transfered diseases?

>complaining about powerlevels in a fucking battle shounen
Are you retarded?
>Choreography
There's your problem right there. Jojo is famous for poses and style but the fights are surprisingly straightforward. Like is said, every move is either an attempt to kill an opponent or a feint that leads directly into one. The OVA fight feels completely out of place. Just like the general tone of the OVA. It's just a bad adaptation.

>Are you retarded?
Powerlevels don't matter. The original battle had even more janky powerlevels. Why aren't you complaining that Jotaro had trouble keeping up with The World at first and then fucking pierced his belly later with the magnet trick even though it only amounted to DIO coming to kill him like he wanted to do from the start? Why aren't you complaining that The World kept going from super strong, at least as much as Star Plat to glass cannon, gets fucking bodied by Star Plat?

>The OVA fight feels completely out of place
Sure, why not? It's not exactly "Jojo's Bizarre Adventure", but it's fucking awesome and a great improvement over the lacking final fight of the anime. I'm not complaining about, say, the SCR fight because it felt complete. The DIO fight was just too short and amounted to little.

>Why aren't you complaining that Jotaro had trouble keeping up with The World at first and then fucking pierced his belly later with the magnet trick even though it only amounted to DIO coming to kill him like he wanted to do from the start?
The World was made out to be a glass cannon compared to SP because of it's massively increased range and timestop ability. It made sense balance wise before the Jotaro timestop asspull.

There's no such thing as stand balance, this isn't a video game.

>>complaining about powerlevels in a fucking battle shounen
Of any series to complain about power levels in. jojo is by far the dumbest because even SC has many fights that aren't about linear powerlevels. Many of the fights and definitely the more memorable follow this idea thoroughly.

He's a vampire, so it doesn't matter. It constantly regenerates or the body just dies, but again it doesn't matter.

I'd say JoJo fights are about the enemy having an absurd exploitable power and most of the fight is the hero trying to "solve the puzzle" of what that power is and how to beat it. HxH fights are like if both the hero and villain had "enemy stand" powers, and it's about who can exploit their power the best. HxH fights are way more about using your power correctly rather than beating the enemy's power.

It made sense story wise. Also, DIO himself has always been a glass canon, as both a human and a vampire in part 1 he could dish out far more then he could take. The World was also slightly faster and more agile, which is why it clowned SP in the first exchange and only lost in direct contests of strength. It goes with the Dio/Joestars theme.

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>The World kept going from super strong, at least as much as Star Plat to glass cannon, gets fucking bodied by Star Plat?
Because SP hit The World's left leg which transferred to DIO whose symbiosis with Johnathan's body wasn't fully completed.

That makes sense, and that's what I always thought, but the manga made them look somewhat equal for a while. And the magnet trick was dumb.

The OVA did something pretty cool with that, with The World being weaker since it was far from DIO, while Star Platinum could protect Jotaro more efficiently due to being close and being on the defensive rather than trying to force an offense. This way, DIO couldn't really finish Jotaro easily despite more timestop

I don't know, a lot of Jojo fights are also ''hero figures out a broken new way to use his power'', even in the first two parts. But i agree that that's one of the criteria where they differ.

> whose symbiosis with Johnathan's body wasn't fully completed.
Literally the whole point of drinking Joseph's blood was to complete it.

Honestly the whole situation was dumb as fuck, all DIO had to do was stop time, wear The World like armor since it would be strongest and his vampire body can keep up, and just rush Jotaro. If he just forced equal exchanges every time he would wear Jotaro down incredibly fast, not only because of Jotaro's limited movement time but also because DIO can regenerate. The approach he took was the best for Jotaro.

Fights in Jojo are about waiting for the opponent to fuck up and capitalizing on their mistakes more than anything else.

>as both a human and a vampire in part 1
You can't really call it being a glass canon when you are going up against your literal counter as Hamon is anti-vampire. Note that DIO didn't die from any of the abuse he took during the mansion fire.

It kinda made sense in the OVA. DIO couldn't donut Jotaro no matter what he did, even if he wore The World close to him. The risk of taking a bad hit was big. From this point, he did the knives thing, Jotaro faked his death, then he got 100% blood and stopped using timestop for a bit to flex his stand muscles, only for the situation to turn around with Jotaro's own timestop.

I just remembered DIO looked fucking super saiyan in the anime. How did they get QUALITY the last few episodes after remaining consistent for almost four cours?

He was being very careful since he thought Jotaro might be able to move more than he let on. Dio knew better than to underestimate Joestars at this point. Once he saw the actual limit of what Jotaro can do he got a lot more aggressive, but by that point Jotaro was really close to adapting enough to win.

While we're talking about character design, Dio Brando 2007 > Dio Brando 2012

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How do we cope with what was once obscure, precious and ours is now as mainstream as DB?

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His regeneration gives him insane damage soak but his durability is poor. basically anything Jonathan did to him caused damage in some way even without Hamon.

It made zero sense for him to hesitate. Nothing Jotaro does to him could possibly kill him, and even if he takes a bad hit, if he focuses on the offense he would take a pound of flesh in return. And then just heal. It's just so dumb. He's already superhumanly strong and fast, wear The World and add it's stats to his own, just rush Jotaro during timestop, at worst they do equal damage to each other and Jotaro is fucked in that scenario. He hesitated too much because of his fear of Joestars, and i get that was kind of the point, but he lost a fight where he had every single possible advantage, he was literally his opponent++.

>basically anything Jonathan did to him caused damage in some way even without Hamon.
Vampires don't have stone skin but that doesn't mean they are glass cannons.