Can anyone explain to me how the FUCK did she manage to get away with everything??

She did literally nothing wrong

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she's only an antagonist because she's antagonising Togame. Shichika doesn't really have a problem with her and she never did anything to him. Hell, the worst she does is be a bitch to Emonzameon

I wonder did she and Shichika fuck?

Togame was a person that could never have a happy ending. She would have killed Shichika despite loving him. She is a character stuck in the past and was about to make things worse for everyone.

Hitei resolved that by killing her, stopping her madness.

Then Shichika, seeing what revenge does to people, is depressed and goes to the shogun to die/to destroy the swords all the people lust after. The shoguns retainers are garbage though and he destroys the swords without dying.

Since he has no desire for revenge he had no intention to kill the princess. In his eyes she was just a frenemy of Togame. So they joined together and retired on a farm near the sea and had 6 children. Never fighting another battle in their whole life. God willing.

>frenemy of Togame
>I didn't...dislike her.
That part was sweet. It cemented me liking Hitei a lot, in spite of also liking Togame a lot. Togame having to die sucked but that's just how things were. They were the same kind of bird and one of them had to go. It's the same with Shichika and Emonzaemon.

Hell, there were no evil characters. The most "evillish" one was Nanami

The shogun was... bad I guess. But we see so little of him it does not qualify.
Togame is consumed by revenge after her traumas and Nanami is consumed by her traumas and illness. Your father trying to kill you will do that to you.

All characters where victims of their circumstances. A great series.

What did the Shogun do? Put down a rebellion against him? That doesn't sound evil. Protect himself against a madman that for all intends and purposes was out to kill him (and did)?

Nanami actually went out of her way to destroy cities and temples for no reason at all. Instead of just going to her brother and telling him to hurry the fuck up and stop being a lazy fuck, she just goes full slasher smile during the Insect Squad fight

Togame died for her sins.

>The most based one was Nanami
I know, right

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From my point of view the only evil one was Rinne, for making me want to a geriatric old fossil.

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I would
but you'll already have been torn to pieces by then

Wasn’t the Shogunate sort of evil?

Cheerio.

This show is kino. Thanks to the ones that recommended it to me.

Not particularly. The shogunate did as a shogunate does. The shogun was acting pretty much exactly as you'd expect him to act, given his circumstances and the norms of the era. I guess you could say exiling the Yasuri to Tamba was douchey, but not super evil. And clearly in retrospect not the worst idea if you want to keep shogunnin'

Definitely one of my all time favorites. I don’t understand why so many people whine about the ending. Like yeah, Togame dying sucks, but it ultimately fits in with the overall theme of the anime, and a fantastical happy ending would have felt completely out of place given how tragedy is rooted throughout every other aspect of the show.

>So they joined together and retired on a farm near the sea and had 6 children. Never fighting another battle in their whole life. God willing.
You made this up.

Togame dying was a happy ending.
The only thing worth complaining about is getting blue balled so hard at the end of episode 3.

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Preview lied
People died

MC was retarded. If you're going to kill non-combatants then she should be first on your hit list.

so...cool

Why were the Maniwa such jobbers and who had the worst death?

but he never killed non-combatants and him not killing Hitei was the point of the ending, speed-viewer

He wanted to off Pengin when he was sleeping

>Maniwa
>not combatants

At that moment Pengin didn't do shit.

He literally killed a non-combatant in the ending you stupid fuck. Who was the old man behind the screen fighting?
I don't care what the "message" of the ending was either, she would've only benefited the plot from being killed.

Why are summertime landscapes like this so strangely melancholic?

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Because you've haven't come outside for month

the actual episode we got instead was by far superior, so that's a win actually.

>member of hostile group
>not a combatant

bet you'd spare a taliban bride too

Yeah, but they still had the truce at that point

>DUDE
>LOOK AT HER HAIR
>SHORT HAIR = CHARACTER GROWTH
>UGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YOU CAN JUST FEEL THE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT!!!

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She's cuter with short hair.

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>the shogun
>a non-combatant
>The guy to blame for all of Togame's life being a fuckup (aside from her own personality)
lol

But what did he do wrong, defeat a guy that rebelled against him?

No-ones to say he did anything wrong, most of the characters in the show did nothing wrong. But he was an enemy to Shichika

How does that make him a combatant? By that same logic then Hitei is also a combatant so should be even more free to die.

I remember it was slice of life

She, by her own admission, has no means of self defence, especially with Emonzameon dead. Ergo, she quite literally isn't a combatant. The shogun was armed, yet a coward.

He admits that killing either of them wouldn't bring any resolution to Togame, or alieve his grief. He doesn't ever give his reason of doing so either. He could have just finished the role he had as the 13th Deviant Blade or completed the goal of Togame. Neither of which required Hitei to die. If he was acting out of vengeance, both of them would have died. His reason was irrelevant, the point is on that night, his role as a deviant sword and Kiki's legacy died. We see afterwards that all of it was for naught anyway, with the shogunate returning back to how it was

You're right, but it's not summer outside either.

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Being a combatant doesn't equate to being able to kill the person in front of you, it means you're physically engaging them. Neither of them present any sort of threat to Shichika yet the one who had done less to him ended up dying. Even trying to hit someone makes you a combatant. Also, he was seen, as is a theme with the episode to not actually deliver on his words. He said he came to die and clearly didn't, claims he's not out for revenge yet is seen carrying a lock of Togame's hair, as if forgetting her entire spiel, regardless of the legitimacy of it. If Hitei had claimed that she didn't actually want to die and then decided to try and flee she absolutely would've been killed, she was merely manipulating his emotions to the end in some subversive, "expecting" mode of mind to convince him that killing her wouldn't have benefited him in any way, when it's evident that killing Yanari didn't present him any meaningful resolution either. Killing both of them would present a clean slate and allow him to really "move on", rather than being weighed down by someone with such insidious motives hounding him in some mocking emulation of Togame.

>you'll already have been torn to pieces by then

Whenever he said that all I could think of was this would be a "wrong answer" in Monkey Island insult sword fighting.

So does she not order Emonzameon to kill Togame or what?

he wanted to spread the CHEERIO thing by smashing the castle

Yeah, too bad NOBODY survived that shit to hear it.

Hitei did and then decided to act like Togame afterwards

I dunno he said it pretty loudly. Sound travels at night.

Shogun had already sent his 11 retainers to fight him, he had already engaged. Hell, he had even called them parts of his body beforehand

As for killing Hitei, that was never a part of either Hitei or Togame's plot. I took the ending as Shichika was continuing Togame's will, whilst being bound by the fate set out by Kiki, but by choice as a human instead of being Togame's sword. And as a human, refusing to carry out the orders he doesn't wish to do. As for killing Hitei, if anything, he's trying to convince himself to kill her by asking if she was Togame's enemy.

At the end, they both had fulfilled their goals, they had both been left empty. Shichika continued down the path he wanted to do (chart japan with Togame), whilst Kiki's scheme had fallen apart, so Hitei had nothing left. So she latches herself onto Shichika (against his will) and carries a keepsake of Emonzameon with her. Neither one truly moves on, but they both continue to live after fulfilling their purpose

That's not engaging them. Sending others to fight for you doesn't make you a combatant, it makes the people you sent combatants. Hitei sending Emonzaemon to be her enforcer doesn't make her a combatant either. Shichika supposedly no longer cares about Togame's plot and no longer restricts himself to it, instead allowing himself to act independently with a clear sentimental basis to his every action. Since it's evident that killing Yanari solves absolutely nothing other than some mental relief, then killing Hitei would've done much the same while severing another attachment he no longer had any need for, instead of having her being some void of meaning following emulation of Togame. The only reasonable justification for letting Hitei live would be Shichika not caring about virtually anything any more, hence there would be no ultimate moral or political motive in his killing spree. However, there clearly was a motive, in addition to an emotional one. Yet the one greatest enemy to his emotional stability and the one most at fault for his constant betrayal of expectations was the one that lived, while the other (now meaningless) "enemy" in Yanari was killed unceremoniously to represent a hamfisted message of pointlessness when you could've easily subverted that same subversion by also, or only killing Hitei. The only concept letting her live fulfils is the final episode's theme of subversion and pointlessness, but even that is contradicted because the episode made it so blatantly obvious from the start that Hitei would suffer absolutely no consequences for anything she said or done.

You gotta lay back
relax your tone and make sure you ain't losing focus becoming the opus for now take a breather

>for month

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but did they fuck or not?