I agree with him.
I agree with him
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Which thing that he never said do you agree with?
Personally I stand with Tomino's take on the matter.
cca sux
Fanbases are cancer
The anime boom has already come and gone in Japan, but even now, in 1987, we are still making thirty animated TV series per week, and annually dozens of theatrical features and straight-to-video anime films, as well as works jointly created in subcontracting arrangements with U.S. firms. But there's no real point in introducing all that here. If there is something that I should touch on, it is the ideology of exaggeration/overexpression and the loss of motivation that plagues Japanese anime. Both of these tendencies have contributed to a general decay in popular Japanese animation.
>The number of TV animated series has continued to grow for twenty years, and at the end of the anime boom reached forty per week!
>This was, of course, inevitable. Who wouldn't tire of watching several shows in one week that all use the ultimate cheap story-line trick - that of some organization plotting to conquer the world? For that matter, even love starts to seem a bit jaded as a motive when commercialized as much in Space Battleship Yamato. The anime boom may have been ignited by Yamato, but the irony is that Yamato also proved to be a graveyard for love and justice in anime. For that matter when the sequel to Tomorrow's Joe, was remade, long after the original broadcast in 1970, it was so far behind the times it reeked of the stench of death, and not just as the result of the overexpressionism employed.
>Everything becomes a giant game. Love becomes a psychological game, struggling or fighting becomes a killing game, and competitions become money-based games with defined results. Japanese anime is drowning in games - to the point where even the life and death of characters is treated as a game, and creators become gods and run into a dead end. It was inevitable that Nintendo's Family Computer would replace the anime boom. With real games, more people could participate in the stories and probably derive a little more satisfaction from them, too.
So you agree with his prediction that anime will stop being made soon after 1987?
otaku bad
The Yamato space opera boom was fucking great, it paved the way for greatness from all the Leijiverse shows to Gundam. What the fuck would he know about TV animation by that time anyways, having left the field for theatrical work by the time of Conan (and a few one offs like a couple Lupin eps and Sherlock Hound eps)? The era he was crowing about was a halcyon time for anime.
Notice the old curmudgeon doesn't bitch much about the moe saturated modern landscape, exponentially more degenerate than the Showa era landscape...he always did have a bit of lolicon going on with his female protagonists.
With nature being good and civilisation bad?
Nothing makes me happier than seeing obvious bait on Yas Forums where the OP's post is short and sweet.
Ghibli will remain superior to all anime and you cannot convince me otherwise.
>Notice the old curmudgeon doesn't bitch much about the moe saturated modern landscape, exponentially more degenerate than the Showa era landscape...he always did have a bit of lolicon going on with his female protagonists.
That shit airs in the middle of the night when uncle Hayao is already asleep.
There is a thin line between the maintaining of nature and civilization, at the very best, leave some patches of natural land free and do not over modernize everything. At its worst, well, both sides are not that good when it comes to its extremes.
He knows based Gainax saved anime in that dark time.
>"I wanted to tell you that I really think The Wings of Honneamise is great. I wasn't obligated to look at it with kind eyes, regardless of its quality. I was ready to say 'it's no good,' if it really wasn't. Then, I went to see the film and got out of the theater with good feelings. Above all, there was a special space on the other side of the screen. There are so many films that fail to create space or a world of their own...I am getting tired and disappointed. This film, though, made me feel good. I felt really good because it was an honest work without any bluff or pretension." - Hayao Miyazaki in Kinema Junpo, March 1987
He doesnt bitch because he doesn't even bother watching tv anime anymore, rightfully so.
I doubt he was watching TV anime in the 80s either.
I think his point was that there was too much anime being made. And he is allowed to say that by the way, even if you think he isn't.
He was right. Yamato was great. People lived, people died. Until the sequels came. Who was once alive were all killed off. Who was once dead came back. Anything went as long as people though they could milk it a bit more. And that went for anime as a whole at the time.
He was knocking the quality as well as quantity there too. Sometimes people enjoy larger than life Sturm und drang of shit like Yamato et al. and don't feel like the nostalgic Neorealism of something Hayao would prefer like an ep of Takahata's Anne of Green Gables or shit that totally grounded in everyday shit.
That "space boom" provides a surprisingly high signal/noise ratio of quality shows.
I never said he wasn't allowed an opinion, just that his was wrong.
>agreeing with something he never said
based retard
>those who identify as otaku sicken me deeply
Spoken by the largest otaku of all time for the following things:
- cute girl protagonists
- Aviation
- Military Hardware
- European culture Westaboo-ism
- Pigs
It's fascinating to me that lots of people here view Miyazaki as a normalfag who doesn't know anything. If you've read a number of his interviews, biographies, etc, it's pretty abundantly evident that he knows quite a lot. He has spoken at length about many Tv shows, OVAs and films. Failing that, he has even covered plenty of foreign animation and out-scoured stuff, ie non-anime animation. He's an industry veteran who's been plugged into it since the 60s. All his friends are in the animation industry. When you're in the industry you're always aware of the new projects and you can talk to numerous staff and other teams, especially if you're well networked and are frequently published. At least from the 60s to late 80s I'd imagine Miyazaki knows almost everything important. I know some of you may be thinking that he cared less about TV animation after the Nausicaa film, and that may be true to an extent but I have doubts. One of the last things he did before leaving Telecom was train a bunch of new employees, so I'm going to guess if you're working for an important film company you're always going to have tabs on notable people and projects.
"Anime was a mistake. Everything since Steamboat Willy is degeneracy and I encourage everyone in the field to commit seppuku to atone. I still will make movies as a Bodhisattva who remains in this world for the deliverance of those condemned to slave in the mines of Ghibli"
t. Hayao Miyazaki
There are directors who are more based than this guy.
>he was wrong because i liek gundumb and hate kiddy moeshit
Cringe.
I agree with him on some stuff, like how anime should take influences from stuff outside of anime. Other stuff I'm not so sure about.
I agree with him.
>makes children movies
Opinion discarded
Vast majority of anime is way more infantile than Miyazaki's movies for children though.
Movies are a better medium of storytelling than TV series.
It will happen with coronavirus.
t. a clown who didn't read what I wrote.
>He knows based Gainax saved anime in that dark time.
The WIngs of Mayonnaise was a one off fluke that flopped at the box office and had little effect on the industry, however well done it was. Gainax would go on to be a theatrical anime powerhouse...oh wait...
me too
>saved anime
Stop.
Why do you guys even care about something this guy said if back and fucking 2008? Go do something more productive
"TV video games are of the Devil"
- Hayao Miyazaki
A good communist is a dead communist.
"Me being born was the first mistake"
t. Hayao Miyazaki
might be true and that's why gamers are fags
Worse than that Miyazaki's movies are very female driven and female oriented. That is because he's a Male Feminist.
Male Feminists are treasonous scum and after seeing what women have done with the help of Male Feminists across all societies that embrace Women's Rights? I'm going to have a celebration when this pile of human shit known as Miyazaki finally dies. Scumbag bastard.
If there is one reason to hate this man it's because he's a Male Feminist.
his movies are over-rated and shit
literally your name or koe no katachi is better than anything he did
he is narrow minded and wrong, he tried so hard to be like disney it's pathetic.
>literally your name or koe no katachi is better than anything he did
you must have been born this century to have taste this fucking shit
>he tried so hard to be like disney it's pathetic.
He tried so hard to NOT be like Disney.
I hope it's a typo.
ok boomer
it's okay that you like disney-copy&pasted shit movies made for kids, nothing wrong with that
his movies are the same as early disney movies. Disney now changed, evolved, they use digital while he's stuck in the past
if you think he tried to not be like disney then lol
he has maybe 2 good movies tops, the rest are garbage, secret life of my dick that shit was so bad
both of those movies are much more infantile than anything miyazaki has made
Disney was a HUGE influence on his generation of animators however. In the Ghibli produced documentary on Miyazaki's mentor, Yasuo Otsuka, Otsuka hand copied a book by a Disney animator about animation. Otsuka and Miyazaki initially worked in the full animation style before O invented the framerate modulation distinct to anime.
But Miya surely flies against the Disney ethos of pabulum that they came to represent.
Digital sucks, this is a 3D free zone.
imagine the smell
This is objectively wrong. LOGH> any Anime Movie. Breaking Bad>Most Movies
Yeah, series have the room to "breathe" and better tell a story without getting rushed. Miyazaki's own Future Boy Conan is a great example. Rintaro did a masterful job distilling Galaxy Express 999 into a film, but the series is beautiful for exploring each of Matsumoto's tragic little fairy tales one at a time.
Me too
>i feel bad for people with disabilities when i see this
why did people think he was talking about the CGI ? also the whole point of that movement is to make you feel disgusted so i don't really understand his point
At this point, he's just a Luddite curmudgeon shaking his fist at the clouds.
Imagine how much worse it has gone since 1987
Speaking of Disney, what do you think Walt's reaction would be state of his company if he was still alive?
ok boomer
make this as an OP for Yas Forums and see how they react
11 seclet spices
XD
Miyazaki, Takahata and a bunch of other dudes also visited Disney's 9 old men in the 80s (well, the remaining ones, anyway) in the US and apparently the Disney people liked the stuff that they were shown. Also, Miyazaki speaking about Disney is interesting, if not predictable (him saying his favorite part of Peter Pan is the flying scene, etc)