>Jiren fighting Goku and Vegeta after (not even) an hour of exercise with his team's backup: Barely keeps up and literally shakes when attacked >Moro fighting Goku and Vegeta after being imprisoned by a group that was trying to give him the death penalty for 10,000,000 years: Casually leaves them on the brink of death. Goku and Vegeta get Buu-Kaioshin's help for the rematch and they still end up running away for their lives
>Jiren facing Android 17: Finds a respectable and honorable strong man that not only opposes him but also ends up defeating him in the tournament >Moro facing Android 17: Pours a whit of energy into his goon and 17 literally kneels and gives up because he has absolutely no way to stand before it, for him, 17 is virtually as useless as 18
>Jiren's reaction when he sees UI in action for first time: Loses the composure puzzled by Goku's masterfully perfected movement >Moro's reaction when he sees UI in action for first time: Grins because he's happy Goku is that good, can't wait for the meal
>Jiren about fighting UI for real after Goku stopped using it minutes ago: Coats himself with aura ready for a serious fight, knowing Goku is bad news for him Moro about fighting UI for real after Goku stopped using it minutes ago: Orders Goku to stop playing around and show him the technique again. Gives his goon more power to force Goku to use his circus trick again
What's next for Shitren now that he has been surpassed in pretty much every way?
Almost all dragon ball antagonists are stronger than the one of the arc before so I don't get why people really thought that jiren was stronger than moro and broly.
They shitposted too hard and started believing the bullshit.
Zachary Collins
>"Jiren [headcanon]", says the jirenponny while posting literal fan art Shitren's only abilities were punching and shooting ki blasts, he's just a worse version of Broly/Golden Freeza/Beerus
Anime >Goku is the reason why Zamasu hates mortals >Goku is Zamasu's rival >Goku was present during present Zamasu's destruction >Goku got the most eliminations in the ToP (9.5)
Manga >Goku doesn't even know who Zamasu is until he travels to the future. >Zamasu is interested in Goku's body but doesn't care about Goku otherwise >Goku wasn't present during Zamasu's destruction, It was Beerus and Shin's job and Goku had nothing to do with it >Goku got 0 eliminations in the ToP Why does Toei suck Goku's cock so much?
Imagine using the promotional Manga as a reference for literally anything.
Landon Phillips
He would get access to a small portion of Moro's power, not like it would change much since he's already way stronger than Saganbo (who got several portions already)
Super is written by a committee and Toriyama's involvement is just approving things.
Mason Torres
>Super is [headcanon] I see.
Mason Clark
>>Goku got 0 eliminations in the ToP This is shit
Michael Perry
Pretty much.
Gabriel White
It's good Goku was focused on fighting the strongest guy and knew he couldn't waste his power on weaker enemies, that's what his weaker teammates were for
>stronger than super perfect cell >not in xenoverse in the form that matters >not in fighterz >no sign of him appearing in anything besides heroes They did him dirty
Just realized that Moro would be the perfect final boss in a DB's videogame >likes to boss around, but is still permissive and benevolent with his underlings (as long they don't betray him) >his influence extends across the cosmos, not only 1 planet (like most DB villains) >not so powerful at the beginning but becomes a titan in the endgame >even before growing stronger his magic hax nullifies the powerlevel of other villains >can easily dose anyone, even sub-saibaman tier trash becomes GoD tier Just give Moro some time-travel power ala Time Breakers and you can have him attacking Earth with dosed Red Ribbon soldiers, saibamen, Freeza men and galactic prisoners, with several commanders such as dosed Cold, dosed Cell, dosed Tambourine, dosed Puipui, dosed Frost... then once the Dragon Team beats everyone but Moro, the goat absorbs the energy of all his soldiers and becomes way stronger than he's in canon and Goku and Vegeta need your OC avatar to help or something like that
So. Is Goku going to be able to auto-dodge Moro's Succ in Omen, or his he going to need Blanco to evade hum? Or will Vegeta's new technique play a major role in allowing Goku to beat Moro ending with the Tag-Team win that some people have been expecting? Yeah. I like the Zamasu arc. But the 2 editions of it seem almost incomplete. The first 2 acts of it in the Amime are great. But the 3rd act drops the ball. While the first 2 acts in the Manga are boring while the 3rd act feels hype as Hell. If you managed to fuse the 2 versions you would probably have one of the best Arcs in all of Dragon Ball. Instead of just two good renditions of an arc.
not in his first design, it's a shame he has to rip off the jacket before he does anything cool besides beating up vegeta
Adam Gray
Super is overseen by Toriyama but he's not responsible for every little detail in the manga after all he told Toyotaro to make it his own.
Ethan Carter
I haven't read this new arc, but let me make some predictions: >Moro doesn't have any new fighting style or techniques, just standard ki lasers >he refrains from actually killing anybody an prefers to arrogantly mock people until they can grow more powerful than him >he has really dumb motives that make no sense
Justin Turner
Beerus only cares about eating, blowing up planets, and hanging out with his gay BFF.
Belmod has enough money to fund a superhero team, so he can get all of the women he wants for his clown harem.
John Martin
>chapter 58 >Goku tries to speedblitz Moro with UI and fails miserably because Moro is powerful enough to see through his moves
>chapter 55 >Goku admits that even after his training he still needs to figure out something to beat Moro Even if Moro wasn't strong enough to see through UI's moves Goku would still be fucked against him, succ > UI Vegeta's gimmick is their last hope
Xavier Reed
>tfw they baited out on having you fight King Cold in Kakarot's postgame. Absolutely pathetic.
Caleb Nelson
I love how every time I see that. More kneeling jobbers have been edited in. Green Super Android 13/Even Greener Broly is just kind of boring. The OVA is pretty fun but he himself is lacking that special something that makes a movie villain beloved. He's just forgettable in the end. Especially considering he comes right after 2 vastly superior villains.
Justin Davis
Zamasu being obsessed enough with Goku to steal his body sounds nice.
Lucas Morris
I think it's too early to say that UI is just going to be useless against Moro. Especially since he only seems to have mastered Omen so far. I don't think Tori/Toyo would build up Goku's training so much only for it to result in nothing. I do think Vegeta's gimmick will play an important role in taking down Moro but I wouldn't write out UI so soon.
>fund a superhero team Belmod is the founder of the Pride Troopers ?
Chase King
7-3 is still in the ship because Moro thought his ability might be useful against Goku and Vegeta
Even if UI ends up being too much for Moro to handle, he'll simply use 7-3
Andrew Cruz
Wrong, wrong and wrong. Moro has more abilities than any previous DB villain ever, he already destroyed several planets and is merely waiting for Goku and Vegeta to show up and eat them (and he already defeated them at the beginning of the arc and they only survived because Moro's magic wasn't at his peak and because he didn't know the namekains could heal them) and his motives are still a mystery, he keeps his useful goons around even if they fail him and wants them to steal resources from the planets he attacks in order to fulfill "his ideals", we only know for sure that Moro wants to be free to devour planets whenever he wants, he's DB-Galactus
>b-but Toriyama didn't write every single detail so who cares if he writes the arc's script and every new antagonist and major plot point comes from his head!
Aaron Myers
Does sadala have state mandated breeding?
Ethan Murphy
Sure his design is better than guys like Turles or Slug, but I still feel he lacks that secret component that makes you popular that villains like Broly and Cooler have.
>he can't even FATHOM an argument against my fastidious intellectual assault God, I love being me.
Isaac Sanders
>Pours a [headcanon] of energy into his goon and 17 It's more than a whit. His goons already had 2 or 3 power ups at that point.
Ian Williams
Humm, the SHITrenschizos told me that 17 is SS3 tier despite the manga being the anime's continuation and the only canon source, but here we have a SS3 tier 17 blocking SHITren...
Isaac Moore
>all this headcanon Why are Toyomangaspicdogs like this?
Ryan Reed
SeeToyotaro does 90 percent of the work while Toriyama is only response for 10 percent, Toyotaro writes and draws while Toriyama give his approval and some ideas.
Matthew Thomas
>screamed the Shitrenbitch, fearfully clutching his MLP plush as he sprayed his vapid, foul-smelling headcanon wantonly across the thread
Jacob Rodriguez
Yeah. Zamasu was basically Yandere for Goku in the Amime. He looks like he's supposed to fill that whole "Space Pirate" role. But we've already had that twice with both Freeza and Turles so he's just kind of a rehash. Also he has a hate boner for Goku even though he's never met him. Then there's the whole "Goku kicking him from the afterlife" which made very little sense in the end. It could have worked if Bojack stated he despised Goku's freedom and personality after having been forced to watch it every time Goku came to visit King Kai or something similar to explain his hate.
Lincoln Morgan
Shitrenbros... Does this mean Shitren is below SS3? Shitrenbros I... I don't feel so good...
Chase Robinson
Ok the horsefucker is annoying, but starting shit when he hasn't posted anything just provides him ammo to act like more of an sperg and shit up our threads.
Isaac Reed
>facts are headcanon That's the best you can say? Come on
>see interviews that confirm the script Toyotaro gets comes from Toriyama, the mastermind behind every DBS arc Manolo...
Robert Gonzalez
>see this post that proves you right Thanks, little bitch.
Oliver Adams
>...cried the Shitrenpony
Nolan Rogers
>Mindreading I'm a CHADroid 17 CHAD, cuck. You were wrong twice. Be a man and admit it or go wax your pussy, bitch.
>2 vastly superior villains. Broly, sure. But I wouldn't put Android 13 as interesting.
Nicholas Price
>The horsefucker. >Ever referring to himself as a Horsefucker. Newfags like you are why he keeps shitting up these threads.
Charles Moore
>...wept the Horserentrash
>...screeched the Fuckrenturd
Anthony Powell
Super 13 is just kind of a brute. But regular 13 is pretty fucking dope. Also his speech against the Saiyans in the Dub is legitimately hype. One of the few times the Dub did something right.
Camden Collins
>it's more than a whit Saganbo only took two shoots when 17 gave up and literally knelt before him and one of them came from the old Moro, not even current Moro. When Saganbo collapsed he already received FIVE extra shoots and Moro still described it as "a smidgen of energy"
Austin Martinez
>is still permissive and benevolent with his underlings (as long they don't betray him) Cranberry and Saganbo would disagree. Moro betrayed them!
>his influence extends across the cosmos, not only 1 planet (like most DB villains) Freeza has more influence than Moro. Nobody knows him, because everyone who used to fear him is either dead or are currently fighting and that's only a handful of people.
The rest is ok, but you were sucking him off too hard.
