Naruto would have been the greatest shonen if pain arc was the last and everyone stayed dead

Naruto would be great if Orochimaru succeeded in taking over Sasukes body and Pain was able to kill everyone in the hidden leaf including Naruto.

Just remove Sasuke then

And replace him with Gaara since Gaara is just a better Sasuke anyway

How would you wrap up Sasuke and Naruto's relationship? No final battle?

Sasuke was a mistake.

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Fuck you, Kakashi should have been the only victim revived.

Wrong, but good thinking. How about Naruto actually has to fucking kill tons of enemy ninja believing in Madara and Infinite Tsukuyomi like a religion they know is real instead of a bunch of shitty plant clones and Hinata actually spends time with him along with his other friends while Sasuke actually intercepts and kills some of the alliance? Kabuto alone could have provided the Sound as slaves.

>Obito/Madara plot never resolved
>never get to see ten tails
Ten Tails was shit and these are part of a pile of garbage better left forgotten
>No final Naruto vs Sasuke fight
>Danzo is now Hokage
>Kabuto is still evil
>Kisame and Zetsu are still alive
Could have been solved as conclusion after the Pain arc without going full meme ninja war trash

>gives him a good ending and provides closure to his relationship with his father
Fuck off, reviving Kakashi was dumb as fuck. Reading the Pain arc week to week was some good shit because everything felt so definite.

True. Though I wouldn't mind the asspull if this was the actual ending
fpbp
Sasuke was literally running to Konoha full of anger during the Pain arc (after learning the truth). Just make them fight in the destroyed city

>Hinata actually spends time with him
This is all I really want from the series, it could have been absolute kino

based and redpilled

Kakashi needed to accept how he failed with his student and now enemy former friend and get past that. There was still too much for him to do. Have Madara or Obito kill him instead after some clever shit involving Kamui that actually contributes.

What do we say in these times?
kill
yourself
narutard

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The whole amount of hincels praising this post is enough of an indication of an average narutard's intellect.

>durr incel
You're no better, retard. Get out.

Don't give cat wine, you faggot.

Naruto would have been the greatest shounen if Sasuke was a girl.
But you're also more or less correct with the value the Pain arc added to the series as a whole. If only Kishimoto went through with it and kept the theme of the faulty shinobi system on until the end, disregarding the retard Madara and his coolest guy with their godpowers.

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Madara was literally the best part of that shitshow after Pain.

And he deserved to win because his logic and plan were fullproof. Ningen could only be stopped from killing each other and causing more suffering if they were all literally forced into their own perfect dream.

Never.

Female vs male rivalry suck dick, in any story period

how's that a bad thing?

could have been done two ways, either he redeems himself and helps naruto fight pain or he fights naruto in the middle of ruined konoha

Hot femSasuke sex after a final fight.

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then naruto would be a simp

No everyone would just joke about how hard he got cucked by Orochimaru. Doujins would be through the fucking roof.

Orochi wouldn't defile his future body. Plus he's asexual and constantly picks on vaginas, so it's a no-no.

>everyone stayed dead
This is the reason I dropped it, nothing triggers me more than dogshit writers bringing back dead characters

>no war arc
Is that why retards actually believe picodemia is an improvement over nardo? As if the execution of everything before that wasn't leagues better in nardo than that cheap rip-off.

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>Obito/Madara plot never resolved
Obito being Madara was a fucking mistake
>No final Naruto vs Sasuke fight
>Danzo is now Hokage
Those two could easily be fixed in a short post pain arc
>never get to see ten tails
The entire point of the protagonists actions was to prevent ever getting to see the ten tails. Not everything has to be shown.
>Kabuto is still evil
why should that change? some people are evil and stay evil.
>Kisame and Zetsu are still alive
Why should every Akatsuki have to die? Its not like wars and conflicts only end when every person on the losing side is dead.

This but instead with Tsunade ara ara-ing any male aging from teenage and below in Leaf Village.

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I agree with everything. Naruto should have at least been forced to actually experience real war alongside his peers with actual losses before he can say shit about how he has the answer and convince Sasuke to help ensure lives like his and Pain will never happen again.

Kishimoto is such a chickenshit about Naruto or Sasuke actually getting their hands dirty with no clear right side while acting like he can tell a story like this is supposed to be. It's so fucking pretentious, I've almost started to resent him entirely.

>Naruto would be a white-knight ("So what if she killed those Samurai and attacked the Kage?! She deserves to be pardoned!")
>Orochimaru would be that Chad who mongles little girls.
>Sakura would probably be a dyke.
This is the Naruto we needed.

It still wouldn't be even close because the writing throughout is just kind of a mess. Maybe if you judge quality by sheer dumb fun.

But if you value series on the depth and life-changing nature of it you'd have to give it to HxH.

The universe is a shit disappointment. Naruto proved Madara completely.

I enjoyed the fourth ninja war. And most people did, but this series attracts all kinds of contrarians.

>hating the shit fake war arc is contrarian
Kill yourself.

youtube.com/watch?v=w518c7_Ap1g

You're move.

>cherrypicking Madara wrecking shit
>how dare u not like muh clone and reanimated "war"
Just fuck off.

Take your meds, schizo.

I'm not daring you to anything, you're the one who got mad at my opinion.

Only if she doesn't end up with the Raikage in the end.

>open coments
>the first one is "Madara was misunderstood. He tried to save us from Boruto with the Infinite Tsukuyomi."

kek'd

Also ninjas throwing meteors is why Naruto became shit.

Sadly it ended up with a blonde marrying his stalker.

>best part not even in the mange
>kills 3 fodder
>insta susanoo
>hit by Naruto if not for Rinnegan
>spams Rinnegan
pretty weak for so much hype

You made Naruto sound like less of a retarded faggot and more of an user with taste.

add some tsunade lewds then we'll get something cooking

Great. And I have seen faggot MCs more retarded then Naruto so it doesn't bother me that much.

Madara is smart and beautiful.

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Yeah it's only OK when One Piece and Bleach do it.
Also
>meteors

>more retarded than Naruto

Name one besides Rito.

>Obito/Madara plot not resolved
Boohoo what a fucking shame. Obitobi was the biggest mistake of the manga.