Why is it that no other Japanese studios have had animation on par with Ghibli?

Why is it that no other Japanese studios have had animation on par with Ghibli?

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too expensive

No one's on par with Kiki

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sometimes you just dont get certain luxuries

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It's a big budget movie, duh.

Sorry, I asked the wrong question. Why is it that other studios are more cheap?

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Other studios do less work because they don't get as much money as Ghibli.

I guess you've never seen Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Jin-Roh, etc...?

But even Ghibli didn't make a financially successful movie until Kiki.

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Watch more anime. There are literal TV series with better animation work than any Ghibli film.

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They've never made an unsuccessful film and have mostly made ultra-successful-films, Miyazaki was already successful before Ghibli.

It's just a stylistic choice. Ghibli character are designed with little detail so they can animate a lot.
Ghibli is great but it's really not like they are just above everything else.

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>Posts the most successful anime of the year of release and dodges totoro
haha

Miyazaki was already extremely influential before Studio Ghibli. They first three films were also successes on top of investor money. You are also comparing feature films to everything else.
I don't know why you have all of these assumptions you have said in the thread. They are wrong.

Uhhh, yeah that's kinda what well-animated means? It has a lot of moving parts, which are animated well?

>Why don't TV shows have movie level special effects?
This is the same basic question. You should already know the answer.

Cringe.

The timing is also a big deal, mid-80s to late-90s was a huge time for global investment in japan. There was a lot of money spread around to push anime exports. You want a beautiful film that's a flop look at Akira. GiTS was pretty low too iirc. Even some of Ghibli stuff got WAY more investment than payout like the mononoke dub.

it's pretty great animation but that's the once a year (or less) sakuga rush

Thank you for finally being up to speed

One good scene doesn't make up for the rest looking like shit
>wojak

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This
Music gets better if you play it louder too

That one's unfortunately true rather than intentionally true.

>SCREEN SHACKING
>FAST CUT
>ZOOM IN/OUT
>PARALLAXING
>MORE SCREEN SHACKING
>PARTICLE EFFECTS
>EVEN MORE SCREEN SHACKING
user please, looking flashy is nice and all but don't compare that to Ghibli.

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Before Ghibli was around the best animation company was Telecom/TMS which Isao Takahata and Hayao Miyazaki used to work for. Their most famous film is AKIRA but they did lots of other stuff as well, and I'm pretty sure they helped with some Ghibli scenes. I know most people do not know/care but I think it's an interesting piece of animation history that's worth knowing.

Production I.G.'s made some feature films that can rival Ghibli releases, like Jin-Roh, both GITS movies, and A Letter to Momo are some examples. The Deer King should be another upcoming film with plenty of impressive animation.

play two songs at once as loud as you can
more notes= better quality

That's nice and all, but good action animation is easy to come by in the anime industry. Nuanced character animation is rare in comparison.

This looks badass. I wish I had the patience to like Gundam.

Nice apples to oranges. Oh, hey, why not eat apples and oranges at the same time, that's twice the nutrition!

baroque as fuck

>gits2
Briefly, maybe.

The money to pay for it is less easy to come by, probably not worth it in most cases either.

it actually is twice the nutrition
You should have said twice the flavour even though they'd clash and you wouldn't be able to fully appreciate either

>Wojak poster stating his opinion as if it mattered in the first place

Is there a reason why Miyazaki is often renowned and praised far more often than Tezuka? Is it just because of mainstream appeal?

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>people outside of Japan knowing Tezuka

Because success and renown are measured in $$$'s and miyazaki style was practically disney which made it easier to succeed globally. He's also great, as are most of his Ghibli people, but that's incidental.

Things like Akira/GiTS/other huge budget anime had to pay to push into new territories where Ghibli fit in from the get go.

Apples and oranges don't taste that good together, but pineapples, mangos, grapes, honeydew melon, strawberries, and occasionally bananas and blueberries are great as a fruit salad. Apples, too. More tangy fruit like oranges, tangerines, grapefruit, lemons, and limes usually clash with the milder fruits.

Most "fruit chunks" in processed foods are just dried apples with other flavorings, including orange.

GITS 2 does have plenty of impressive animation though, from realistic depictions of ordinary movement like Batou feeding his dog to crazy action sequence of Batou infiltrating the facility.

Because he's better.

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Yeah the dog rolling around on his lap is really adorable and well choreographed but I'm trying to remember if it was one of the more cgi looking characters too. I know there's also extremely disgustingly gaudy CGI parts too that are biasing me.

Maybe it has something to do with Tezuka not making anything new, user.

Maybe some people know Atom as Astro Boy, but I doubt that people even know Tezuka's name.

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People in the west know Astro Boy. Maybe Kimba or Metropolis, too. It's literally only because his work wasn't available as much as the Ghibli films that he isn't as well-regarded.

I wonder how much that would have changed if Disney hadn't just ripped Kimba the White Lion off. I understand that Disney had wanted to make a Kimba movie and were denied (the reason as to why, I cannot recall), but it no doubt didn't help.

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Yeah, but Tezuka also literally made and unlicensed bootleg manga of Bambi and Pinocchio.

>Metropolis
supermassive flop where it did get theatrical release.

Probably goes back to 60s/70s productions which were western-source and later trickled back out to western TV

I can't believe Tezuka would time travel and steal the concept of The Lion King from Disney so brazenly. Disgusting. And here I had respect for the man, but this really opened my eyes to the truth.

It's not like the west hadn't been ripping off Japanese media for decades before. Usually by directors that just 'absolutely loved' Japanese films.
Which is besides the point that the similarities between the two are surface deep and there are better examples of rip offs.

>supermassive flop where it did get theatrical release.
It's well-known by western anime fans and movie buffs (who know of it because of the 2001 film being a modern take on the silent film classic), but not the general western public.

I mean I want to disagree but I bought the dvd after it first released in theaters so maybe that would be disingenuous. It also followed that Astro Boy style that was not forgotten.

Cagliostro was financially failure but critically succesfull. Totoro and Fireflies bomb so hard at theatre but doing fine in home release.

Didn't he only make that because he saw Bambi like a hundred times and wanted to put his own unofficial spin on it?
I might be misremembering, and it might have been Nintendo that actually had an official license to use Disney properties for Hanafuda cards.

I mean, it still happens nowadays, which is fucking bizarre, considering how widespread the internet is.

It was probably overbudget but you can't really say FAILURE when it continued the extremely successful franchise a little further. Anything that keeps it in public consciousness will impact the future releases. Also Cagliostro is fucking amazing.

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Miyazaki knows Disney are thieving bastards. They copied things he worked on.

Well, let's just say that copyright laws back in the day weren't nearly as strict as they are nowadays. Except I guess it doesn't exactly help that Disney can literally change copyright laws whenever they want to when it pertains to them.

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>considering how widespread the internet is
But the public at large doesn't really care. Why would they when you really think about it. The usual suspects are the only ones who would.
My main point is that the directors that just fucking adore Japanese cinema copy them scene for scene. It's really disingenuous.

Actual, come to think of it, it's probably one of the reasons why Japan has become so extremely strict and uptight regarding copyright laws these past few years, too.

Tezuka is more of God of Manga, while he did animation later in his career, he isnt comparable to Miyazaki in animation field.

It is not cost effective to have forced animation for the sake of forced animation.

Lol nigga you trying to compare naruto to ghibli?

Cagliostro didn't even have that big of a budget. Not exactly. It took like 7 months to make as well, it's amazing. I think the story is that they just slept in the offices and would just wake up and work and then sleep. It was a cycle of pure hate for over half a year. I'm pretty sure Heidi of the Alps has a similar story. One of the best anime of all time.

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It's clearly over time for theatrical releases, that guarantees way over budget.

Considering how often that webm gets posted around as a recent example of what good animation looks like, people are obviously going to have their own biases.