Is an asspull that is retrospectively explained away still an asspull?
Is an asspull that is retrospectively explained away still an asspull?
Jeremiah Wilson
Joshua Carter
yes
Joseph Martinez
Did he pull it from his ass?
Matthew Watson
It's not asspul if it's shonen
Ryder Thompson
Yes. Sometimes they aren't asspulls but instead a contrivance
Jose Ortiz
Yes, the whole point of setting stuff up is that it comes before the payoff. If it comes after it's worthless, sometimes even detrimental.
Austin Baker
What about that time where Natsu and Gajeel were stuck behind a barrier that stopped anyone over eighty, and we're not told why that affected them until hundreds of chapters later?
Hudson Barnes
Yes. An asspull that is retroactively explained in a decent manner is acceptable enough, but it's still an asspull that had no buildup and is thus a failure of writing. An asspull that directly contradicts the prior story due to deceptive writing is irredeemable no matter how hard they try to explain it though.
Austin White
Yes but pic related isn't an asspull unless you speedread. That said Nezuko's simultaneous powerup was an asspull and the manga started sucking after it skipped the middle. Dropped when boss fight lasted over 10 chapters.
Julian Jenkins
What if it all leads to a whole chapter that ends in actual penetrative sex?