Kaiji

Kurosawa adaptation WHEN

I started reading Kaiji a couple of days ago, blasted through it until the landmine/muhjong chapters started, got immediatley filtered.
Genuinley considering learning the damn game just so I can read on without feeling retarded, what do you recommend lads?

seconding this, really want to continue with Kaiji and want to pick up Ten but got no clue where to begin with mahjong

Honestly, you don't really need to know mahjong to enjoy part 3. I read part 3 without knowing mahjong and it's my favorite, but I also know poker and can abstract the rules from there.

That being said, you can learn it here
gamedesign.jp/flash/mahjong/mahjong_e.html

Can you play poker at least? Do you know what a hand composition is? Because I feel like knowing poker gives you a basis of understanding for mahjong.

You can also go to Yas Forums and make a mahjong thread, asking them every turn what to do, and sooner or later you will get it. Yas Forums loves mahjong.

You got a Tonegawa anime of all things. There probably will be more. Someday.

It's not the same...

For part 3 specifically the rules are very stripped down.
It goes like this:
>both players need to make a hand that is one tile away from winning that is atleast worth a specific amount of points (don't remember how much)
>each turn the player draws a tile, and discards another one
>if the opponent discards a tile that completes your hand, you win (which is RON)
You don't have to worry about yakuman, han and all that other stuff.
Dora/Ura Dora are like bonus points, if your hand includes it, you get more points.

Translate this into poker
>both players need to make a hand that is one card away from making a street (3-4-5-6-K, you're missing 7)
>you draw a card from the deck, and discard another one
>you can only win by completing your hand with the discard of your opponent (opponent discards 7, you win)

Does this help clearing some things up?

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That is a big help, thanks user!

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Going a bit further, part 3 is more about cheating that the game itself (central theme of Kaiji really, you can't win without cheating).
Just like in poker, if you know the hand of your opponent, you can make better decisions what to discard (so they won't win) and what hand you should go for (you're building a street but the opponent is building a similar street, unlikely he will discard the tile you need because he needs it himself).
The setup of part 3 is Kaiji cheating the opponent by using 2 accomplices that look at the hand of his opponent. And that is the important bit where all the tension comes from.
If you do not want to learn mahjong, simply mentally replace mahjong with poker or gin rummy, because cheating works the same there.

Enjoy part 3. Because it is the best part.

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Not him but while I can play Mahjong,I really just like the job they did with the anime.
Fukomotos drawing quality usually is all over the place in his manga, even with such a defining style and the sound direction and ost of the anime were superb.

The anime is great, no question about that.
And I dunno, Kaiji is pretty consistent with the art quality throughout, I think he even improved from part 5 onward. Part 6 looks super slick.

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I feel like Kazuyahen could be pretty good.

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Should have ended with him winning in Season 1.
Shit would have been cathartic as fuck, and I wouldn't have to think about Kaiji every again.

It's an awesome series, and concept, but I much rather have closure than have infinite chapters of a story I enjoy. This can be said about almost any Manga/Anime tho.

how did he manage to stretch Kaiji out for so many parts though? Is the writing still good at least?

Not having closure is kinda the point. The gambling never stops.

In a story kind of way, sure.
But, you and I are real people in the real world, with real shit we gotta do.

I rather have new stories that are capable of grabbing me, than having to read the same story forever because it makes money for a bunch of chinks.

If he had won at the end of Season 1 it would have been beautiful, and I'd be able to close the book, and move on to another.

It has it's ups and downs. Personally I think part 4 and 5 are some of the weakest. Part 6 feels fresh though, because it doesn't focus on gambling but the aftermath of winning too much.
But that's all personal opinion. I've seen people say part 4 is their favorite, people say part 6 is too stretched out and everything in between. You can't please everyone.
Part 6 gave us Kaiji's mother and a deeper look into Endou as a character, and I love both of those things.

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Part 4 is a very interesting idea, but it's different from the others.

I actually love how Kaiji and Kazuya aren't really all that involved in the game, but instead are mostly passive observers debating its outcome. It's the only arc where Kaiji doesn't have anything tangible at stake, instead, he's risking his worldview. I get why people don't like it, but personally I think it might be my favorite arc.

And as to how, Part 3 trough 5 all take place over 2 days. Kaiji can't say "no" to gambling and will always go for the next game.
It all feels natural because Kaiji gets roped from one thing to the other, and it isn't out of character for him to chase the next big jackpot.

Part 6 could be the finale if Kaiji can pull it off and make a clean exit. But it could just the same lead into a new game.

Kaiji won't end until Kaiji defeated Hyodo and basically all of Teiai.

>If he had won at the end of Season 1 it would have been beautiful
It would be generic as fuck though. The loss at the end of season 1 is an iconic moment that distinguishes Kaiji from other series. The main character came up with an elaborate plan to win with an extremaly long build up, 4 of his fingers are on the line, anyone would assume that he just can't lose here. And yet it happens, he loses, no asspulls, and then the show rubs it in your face even further by showing that he had a chance to win, but blew it.

It was a cool concept at the very least, I like it when Fukomoto experiments instead of re-hashing the same thing.
Chang and Mario are true bros. I wish had friend(s), friends like them

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Fuck it, I got nothing to do today so time to read thru this arc again.

Join the /vg/ mahjong general and play a few games. It'll start to make sense.

I read Kaiji, Akagi and Ten without knowing anything about mahjong. Then I learned the game and reread Akagi, and it was even more amazing. You get the bits of their philosophy no matter what, but the knowledge of mahjong really makes you understand it.

Also, I thought Kaiji anime ended in a perfect spot. The stakes haven't felt the same since then.

Kaiji losing was a slap to the face. Thanks to it we got even better season 2 arcs.

I would've preferred if Hyoudou had kept the fingers but I guess that would've alienated the audiences from Kaiji's character.

I'll have to reread part 6 just to crop all the images out where Endou says "Kaiji" because that shit is just funny to me

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We'll probably get a face-off against Kazuyas brother and then finale against Hyodo.

And of course everyone's favorite

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He might just combine everything into one gamble.
Kaiji vs Kazuya vs Kazuya's bro vs Hyodo

Endou could join Kaiji, Mario and Chang too.

7-way UNO and everyone bets everything they have

>I would've preferred if Hyoudou had kept the fingers
Yeah, it was kind of bullshit how he just got the reattached like it's nothing. Still, it had its impact at that moment where he lost them, at least.

It had to end with everyone betting their lives and having it come down to Hyodo v. Kaiji and ending in a draw, right?

In the end, Endou will get all the money and become the new chairman of Teiai.

Part 3 is objectively the best

mahjongsoul.yo-star.com/

Click on start game and enjoy the tutorial.

Search for the basic rules then play here,it has all of the win conditions under the flash so you can just look if you have anything.
gamedesign.jp/flash/mahjong/mahjong_e.html

There is also mahjong soul,it's quite easy to use and even has a tutorials so you can just start there and play against other people.

What are some other good gambling manga?

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russian roulette in real life

>god tier
>liar game
>with that shit ending
reddit is 2 blocks down, kid

Still waiting on Triad for season 2.

>kakegurui
>anything but shit tier
0/10 see me after class

How is kakegurui god tier but ten average?

Fucking awful list

>not Kakeguri being top tier

I never touched kekeguri, so I don't comment on it because I can't.

"Chong".

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I also started keeping a journal this year, but my life is so uneventful I don't know what to write in it.

write down what you want from life and what you should you be doing with your time

>dear diary, today I made a post on Yas Forums

You could use your time to learn something you're interested in.

I recently listened to a podcast where one of the guys also started a journal. But to keep things in perspective, he doesn't write the date but the days he has lived so far. It helps him to realize just how finite your time really is, because saying "i might die in 30 years" is too abstract, but saying "i might die 10950 days" puts things into perspective for yourself.

Think about what you want to do. Looking up at authors, actors and the like will just demotivate you because they are driven people, sometimes with immense luck that allowed them to get into such a position.

Take it step by step. If you want to write a book, write one idea down per day, or edit an old one. If you want to make a game, learn what you need to know bit by bit. Follow this advice for one year, or even one month and then look back at it. Even just a single page of notes can be valuable.
Even if you do not reach your goal, you will feel better because your time does not feel wasted. Maybe you can use the skills you learned in other unexpected ways.

The only thing you can't do is giving up. If you give up, you will always feel this way.

>implying I know

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What do you like? If you like manga maybe you could learn Japanese or how to draw

anime, manga, I also like playing videogames and yes I actualy do Japanese on Duolingo, although I'm not sure if that's enough

Kakegurui is better

If you don't think it's enough you could always look for a nip partner who is trying to learn english. There's a couple of sites for that.