What are your opinions on the anime staple a time skip...

What are your opinions on the anime staple a time skip. Lazy way for writers to quickly and easily forward the plot without having to do much if any work or legitimate story telling device that if used correctly is respectable? In battle shonen where it's all about getting stronger i'm ok with a 2 year training time skip but in more story driven anime I would rather see the character development in real time. How long is too long of a time skip? I don't usually like when they make a series about a protagonists kids and we skip ahead like 10+ years. I want to see what that character has been doing before the kid and while raising the kid not just jump to when the kid is old enough to have his own story.

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You could always do the Isayama method:
timeskip, then have a series of flashbacks to explain what happened during the timeskip.

1 year or more without a legitimate reason is too long. Chihayafuru had a couple of time skips only because certain tournaments are probably held once a year. If you’re skipping a year or more just to advance age, it’s lazy writing.

>anime staple
You mean weekly shounenshit jump staple. It's absolutely fucking terrible 99% of the time.

i like that too but then you have brainlets that can't into in media res and complain about flashbacks so there's never any winning.

shonen makes the best anime. Get over yourself you elitist fuck I bet you think Eva was actually good and just "2deep4u".

Fuck off, retard.

>shonen makes the best anime
Where do these newfags come from?

What's the longest time skip in anime/manga? Can anything beat Houseki no Kuni's 220 year time skip?

Shonen abuse the shit out of them purely for the sake of new stories and powers sometimes, but obviously skipping some time is a valid story choice. OP worked it well by using that as a chance to shuffle the world around, with the main characters not really feeling much effects.

The point of flashbacks is to hint at the past, not explain it in full like it's a side story.
This angers me so much that tard mangaka like Oda feel the need to tell a mini-story every fucking time a flashback happens.

I hated when Fairy Tail did the 7 year skip. That was horrible because they literally froze the main characters in time while the rest of the world continued on. That time skip was one of the worst I've seen.

anime wouldn't be nearly as big as it is today, especially not in the western world, without Shonen. Show some respect. Shonen anime exists so that your artsy anime can as well.

Take three guesses. All three of them are probably right.

I would argue the reason it's so bad is because the 7 year timeskip mattered for all of 2 chapters before literally everything was back to normal. The only difference was 2 characters people shipped had a kid walking around.

Anime getting bigger in the western world was a mistake.

>watching Fairy Tail to begin with
Go back, you fucking plebeians.

It's a manga staple since it comes from manga that were adapted into anime. I would be interested in a history of early examples of it in popular manga but if you really think about an obvious early example, Hokuto no Ken only did it because the authors had their contract renewed for more years and had to tack on a new arc to their completed story. It was actually better to create a new struggle than artificially prolong the resolved one. Dragon Ball used timeskips to introduce new cast members.

>timeskips 200 years every few chapters in your path

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Phoenix by Tezuka started in the 60s and started in ancient times, jumped forward to the far future, then kept jumping back and forth between past and future, looking like it was going to converge in some near-future time period. Not sure if that really counts as time skips since each part is mostly its own thing, but they are tied together. Other Tezuka manga did time skips too. Though time skips were already a thing in movies and books before anime and manga even existed.

Hasn't there only been 2 time skips so far? I only remember the 102 year one and then the 220 year one. You might be able to consider the short skip to Spring after Antarc was taken one but I don't even think that was half a year.

Only 1 time skip of 2 years? that sounds cute

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No, it allowed them to pretend Fairy Tail was an underdog guild for the tournament. That's basically the only reason it happened. Pretty dumb.

Phoenix is definitely a special case since the parts were often collected separately and not even serialized in the same magazines or by the same publishers with years in between publishing parts. I do realize manga isn't really the origin for anything but it's interesting to think what influenced what. I like seeing the chain of influence. Like some guy saw guy saw a cave painting and then wrote a novel a few hundred years ago and then some Japanese director made an homage to that novel with a film and then some young mangaka was inspired by that film and his manga became a hit and then other mangaka were all inspired by that manga. That's obviously not a real example but I'm sure there's plenty of similar things like that in manga especially since early guys like Tezuka obviously were inspired by non-Japanese things but Japanese people are inspired by Tezuka specifically.

Dragon Ball GT was a mistake

is Jojo the king of timeskips?

Has there ever been a timeskip that was good?

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Naruto
Dragon Ball

Based

yes

One Piece

>l don't usually like when they make a series about a protagonists kids and we skip ahead like 10+ years

This is where The Promised Neverland quality dropped. It wasn't a big timeskip but from one moment to another everyone grown up and looked different, Norman drastically changed just for the sake of him being Minerva despite being like 11 years old at the begging.
TPN didn't stop and added more time skips, 5 days, 30 days, 6 months, 1 year, killing every opportunity of word building, at one point they where inside the demon society without any context whatsoever. You may say that isn't a lot of time for things to change but they were escaping and trying to survive surrounded by demons everywhere and every moment was crucial.
Timeskips are just lazy writing.

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Better:
Brooks
Chopper
Sanji
Usopp

Worse:
nami
robin
luffy (barely)

OH GOD OH FUCK WHAT ARE YOU DOING:
franky

Sanji was only tolerable in WCI. He's been my least favorite crew member for a while and his beta orbiter schtick got old a long time ago.

i don't care about time skip bit the artstyle change is horrendous

Phoenix probably takes it, if you count that.

Dragonball's first time skip was pretty solid and actually advanced the story in a lot of ways

I'm just talking about designs

based

Black Clover

How they massacred my boy.

sounds like you want more slice of life in your shounen. problem is that isnt shounen.

Flash backs being parallel story arcs is common across all forms of media
Stop being autistic

>Naruto

It kinda bothers me that the greatest thing Naruto had to show after it was a bigger Rasengan.

>fails every class and cant learn jutsus
>sees a forbidden scroll for literal 30 seconds, and masters it
>has a multiple year timeskip for the sole purpose of training with toad bro
>only thing gained was a slightly better version of a move he already learned
>Trains with shadow clones for like a week right after the timeskip
>learns 100x more than the timeskip making the timeskip pointless

Naruto was written by a scitzo

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No, it was written by a hack. Not everything has to be a schitzo.

>Better:
>Chopper

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robin is literally just a brick with tits at this point whos only role is to catch people and cheer from the sidelines. and you forgot about zoro, dipshit

and more control over the 9 tails
and better taijutsu
just an overall better ninja

Kishimoto is the greatest mangaka of all time fuck you

The existence of Sakura proves his inability as a writter.

Sakura hate is so unwarranted it's not even funny. I'm not even a fan of Sakura I just realized everyone hates on her so it made me defend her often.

if the manga has hit a sort of wall and/or the amount of potential that a timeskip would bring is too big to be ignored, its better to just skip forward a little, as smoothly as you possibly can

i was skeptical about the timeskip in hinamatsuri, but it actually lead to some good developments

I think spacing arcs by a few weeks/months and make the crew aging as the story goes would have been better than a timeskip

The only thing I just can't ever get used to is what happened to Franky.
it just seems too much of a change. I can't accept it in my heart.

dragon ball

YYH as it was treated as an epilouge

I don't think you can call that timeskip horrible because it didn't really do anything. Nothing about the series changed.

was that even considered a time skip? It was just the last episode where he came back right? Or am I remembering wrong?

that's why it was bad. The characters were frozen in time they didn't even get stronger or updated looks or older or anything.