Is a parody/deconstruction of the genre

>is a parody/deconstruction of the genre

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I don't know about other cases but Konosuba is the one that really piss me off
>look we are doing what everyone else have done before but we are self-aware
>MASER PIECE OMG AAAHHHH
Same goes for that one harem with the girl with glasses that is actually hot, being self-aware doesn't add nothing to your story.

using that word should be bannable offense

>it's an utter dismantling of the genre
>it's a rigorous autopsy of the genre

Why are there so many pseuds on Yas Forums?

konosuba was never a parody or a deconstruction, nor did it advertise itself as such. it's literally just a comedic isekai.

>NOOOOO IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SHOW FOR IRONIC WEEBS WHO HATED ANIME, NOT A FUN COMEDY
Go back to YouTube

No matter what trope or buzzword labels a story has, its quality depends entirely on its composition.

I'm not saying what it is or what it isn't but the fact that people praise it for being "self-aware" and not for its own merits.

>is a love letter to...

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yui is a deconstruction of the young genius trope

>it's a template thread

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If you mean oresuki, it actually does work at times. At the very beginning and the very end it makes use of its premise, but throughout the whole middle of the manga its just a harem

The problem with 'deconstruction' is that it isn't helpful. It's incredibly imprecise. 'What if X happened in real life?' is not at all useful in classifying anything.

Those terms are not interchangeable. They are, in fact, very different things.

Konosuba isn't great because it's a parody. It's great because it's funny, the characters are interesting and invite investment, and the animation is great. The fact that it's well done makes it a good parody as well as a good anime.

it depends. classifying something as a deconstruction can be useful when making a comparison, it's percisness depends on the aptness of the comparison. it's a situational term to use but it's not worthless.

That's because you're an idiot. Genre terms don't exist in a vacuum, they modify each other.

A Sci-Fi show has certain aspects which make it Science fiction. A comedy show has certain aspects that make it a Comedy. When you have a Sci-Fi Comedy, you still know where you are in terms of the two.

So if you have a Deconstructionist Mecha show you know that it's going to be deconstructing the tropes and cliches of the mecha genre, for instance. A Deconstructionist Magical Girl show would be doing the same with the tropes of it's respective genre.

Hello my fellow contrarians

there's never been a single good "deconstruction"

in principle, yes

When a show is actually interesting it deconstructs your expectations that it would be the same generic shit as with 99% of anime.

Based

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>Go-Toubun no Haneyome was a big fuck you to any poor shmuck who actually liked this lmao

deconstruction is a label applied by reviewers/critics, anything pitched as deconstruction is always garbage
Nothing wrong with parody though, they're normally made out of love

I prefer genre demolitions

it redefines what cinema is

>anything pitched as deconstruction is always garbage
>anything that has x is always garbage
if someone where to collect all of these rules, they would be able to create the perfect anime

But most anime that are called deconstructions are quite good.

That's literally impossible. Deconstructions bad are by definition.
A deconstruction of a genre is the act of making the genre bad. For example, the JRPG video game isekai fantasies are a deconstruction of the isekai genre, because they make the isekai genre not an isekai story.

Name five

Cross Ange

Hunter x Hunter
and literally just Hunter x Hunter

Konosuba
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Steins;Gate
Black Clover
Cop Craft

I already explained this in the other deconstruction thread The word you are looking for is subversion. This text is subverting the tropes of mecha. That text is subverting the tropes of mahou shoujo. This is a precise term because you can identify what the trope is, how it usually plays out, and how the text in question differs from it. 'Deconstruction', in its usual definition of 'What if X happened in real life?' is imprecise and meaningless because 'real life' is imprecise and meaningless. Does 'real life' mean psychological realism? Then Madoka's out because the characters are not only strongly archetypal but literally become instantiations of hope, love, and despair. Does 'real life' mean naturalism? Then most everything we call a 'deconstruction' is out. What does it even mean to talk about the 'real life' consequences that middle schoolers could harness the power of their emotions to defeat monsters formed out of despair?

I can't get over the irony of the word 'deconstruction', originally used by Derrida to describe the instability of the relationship between language and meaning, now being used by TVTropes nerds to describe a text in such a ambiguous way as to be effectively meaningless. It's almost like a self-demonstrating exercise.

they're shit and questionable if they're deconstructions

Deconstruction is just a fancy meme word for subverting tropes, something that Yas Forums fetishizes

Does poking fun at tropes in your genre automatically make you a "deconstruction"? Like is Ouran High School Host Club a deconstruction of shoujo romance manga because it is visibly self aware at times? I'm sure deconstructions exist to some extent but it seems like everyone just calls anything even slightly self aware a deconstruction. And it's hard not to make something at least a little self aware if you grew up reading the genre and then get into making it.

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>It's great because it's funny, the characters are interesting and invite investment, and the animation is great.

Absolutely none of that is true. Every joke is either yelling, OMG GENRE or other one note gags that get repeated into meme status.

Mountain Blade II: Bannerlord

>Black Clover
>Deconstruction
I like BC, but as a whole it’s not a deconstruction.

I just listed a bunch of random anime, I don't even know what that word means

Wtf hell no

I dunno, you tell me.

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Ouran (started out as) straight-up parody of shoujo romance manga, where all of the characters were over-the-top caricatures of stock shoujo love interests. I think parody is something different than deconstruction or subversion.

am I supposed to know?

Quran?

>anything that has x is always garbage
not necessarily true unless its something really dumb
What I mean is that deconstruction is the first thing that comes up about a work, as opposed to literally anything else about it
It's like the weird kind of trailer where its about the people behind a show rather than the show itself

Ouran parodies generic features of shoujo manga. Parody is arguably a means of subverting generic elements and stock characters, so they're not mutually exclusive. Deconstructions don't exist because the word doesn't mean anything.

I don't even know what deconstruction means
Like I've seen the term thrown around but it doesn't make any sense
Like what makes Madoka a deconstruction of magical girls? Is it because they die?
Is deconstruction = edgy?

>deconstruction
Sounds like a Decepticon to me.

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>NGE
>Hunter X Hunter
>Madoka
>Fate/zero
>Re:zero
>Revolutionary Girl Utena
>One Punch Man
I've seen people call these deconstructions, and they're all well regarded. I'm not saying they're all good, nor that deconstruction isn't a meaningless term that provides no useful information. However if you had to pick between two anime and all you knew is that one was called a "deconstruction", pick that one because it's likely to be the better of the two.

As far as Madoka goes it is kind of that. People who have never watched another magical girl series in their life think Madoka was the first magical girl series to have dark elements in it, so they call it a deconstruction. Eva similarly is assumed to be the first mecha anime to not just be 100% robots hitting each other so people think Eva "deconstructed" the genre by having so much focus on the characters.

oh look it's "this" thread again

DAE magical girl but actually fucked up????????

is gundam a deconstruction of super robo