What went so wrong? I remember the times when this was praised to the heavens and now nobody talks about it anymore

They got pleb filtered after the prologue.
I'm fine with Yukimura skipping Greece because I don't know about the history.
Writing the same story for almost 20 years is a fuckin pain and i understand that.

Also Inb4 Oda

>TRANNY VIKINGS
WHAT WAS HE THINKING

This. I was hype for that and all the cool adventures we could have gotten but now we just got trannies.

>IT'S MAAM

how common were trannies in viking culture?

no fking way

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wasn't there a female crossbow machine gun viking or some shit LOL

I liked it until he became a fucking faggot slave farmer pacifist.

It was exposed to the general audience, not just the inbred fanbase, and everyone found out that it's a garbage shounen full of turbo-cuck moral preaching.

For the author? Probably nothing.
This just reflects his views from the start, he never meant to create a viking epic, he actually hates vikings and their culture.
What I find disappointing is that someone supposedly researched so much on the topic dropped the ball so bad when the story was meant to start getting interesting.
Then again, this is the same guy who spent years in a pointless arc in the Baltic sea then rushed the trip to Greece.
So let's assume this is the real audience of Vinland Saga

>anime only

Opinion discarded.

Farmland Saga was near perfect, great art, storytelling and character development all around, but it was followed with that shitty Baltic Sea War arc which dragged on for way too long, introduced too many new characters who didn't do much and alternated way too much between serious historical drama and quirky shonen comedy.

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yeah, I remember those times too, but now everyone tries to fucking forget like the worst nightmare

>I remember the times when this was praised to the heavens
12 years ago?

The compelling part, Thorfinn's story and development climaxed long ago and are over. The rest is basically glorified epilogue

Chapter 169
He's presumably Thorkells son who got raised like a girl by his mom so he doesn't have to go to war with his dad.

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lol Tranny Saga

It was always trash and the people who praised it have no taste.

Because it's extremely forgettable.

>What went so wrong?
Yas Forums - Anime generals & Yas Forums posting

>hilde
This, i think the intire manga is amazing, other then hilde, and now tranny shit

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>hild
>the fucking north sea war arc with shit like the literal troll
>now capeshit-tier identity politics bullshit with the tranny viking

this post was made by a tranny

>manga goes to shit when mc gets rpg party and starts riding a boat

Are you fucking inbred
>>>>>>Streaming in 2020

nice pic faggot

The author started applying today's standards and Japanese of morals of obligation, standards, and other shit to the characters. There was one scene, with Leif I think, where he encourages a character to seek out his own path to self-discovery and choosing what to do in his life, despite the character already being a viking. It's out of place. That sort of discussion would never go down in those times. I think even Hox brought it up in a thread once.

See, when you read a Viking story, most people are expecting something like a power metal album cover. The kind of thing where the most common cause of death is "Metal poisoning from TOO MANY SPEARS" and the soundtrack is just Sabaton.

Nobody wants to read about Thor's tranny brother here

Holy shit, on point

I hated Thors too
>Ultimate viking warrior god
>hates fighting, and can't kill
fucking gayest shit ever, you can't be the best in something if hate doing it, this "subversion" is really annoying

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Honestly, I wanted to believe that all this pacifist shit was leading to a higher level of writing. Like Thorfinn entering some type of naive phase after getting out of his revenge phase, then facing reality and understand that violence is not the answer but if you prostate to the word you are bound to get stomped on. But no, it's just some shounen tier garbage writing where things just get more moronic by the chapter.
What an absolute waste of years of work for the author to come up with nothing

Battle seinen

What, was he not aware that the child HAD A PENIS?

You want him to rip his pants down and check? Is that viking tradition?

Wouldn't you check? If I have a kid, of course I want to know his gender.

THIS

It still could happen but it's taking so long. I don't know how else he would write around the fact that there's going to be a conflict with the natives in Vinland.

Women always ruin everything, holy shit.

this also checked
he should understood that without violence and military might people are just lambs for the slaughter and you need guardians that protect them
to be honest baltic arc should be resolved when mc and hilde unite against the guy who was behind both parents deaths and get revenge

This is the correct answer

I agree. If you are interested in something that does this right. Look into Angolmois

The author isn't a woman.

People were praising Vinland back in 2015 because that's when Farmland wrapped up and people (including myself) really enjoyed it. It was a nice ending to a long but well-done arc for Thorfinn.
However since then the manga has had a shift in tone to a more "happy-go-lucky" one with more slapstick comedy, more and more characters with shallow backstories were introduced (forcing other great characters like Einar and Canute into the background), and overall the pacing's been kind of all over the place. Then the anime came but nobody on here cared much due to shitposting or people kept complaining about what's happened in the manga, making discussion about the anime virtually impossible.
The reason why the manga's gotten worse is because the author Yukimura quite visibly got tired of writing sad/depressing stuff over time. He's commented how he's a father of 3 now and he wants to enjoy himself by writing/drawing a more "happy happy joy" manga with a simple hero who now has a family and faces silly villains. Like, he literally did a timeskip and COMPLETELY SKIPPED a potentially interesting arc that was vital to Thorfinn's journey in history and that had LOTS of buildup, to instead rush into a final arc and introduce a transgender viking.

He's been a father since the first volume so what you're saying makes no sense.

I don't understand why people are caught up on the pacifist thing. he is not even a pacifist. he fought the spear dude he just doesn't want to kill people. thats not the same thing as pacifism

I think the point is that a pacifist character in brutal medieval viking times would stand out but Thorfinn always comes off as such a hypocrite.

The story built up some fantastic character development for Thorfinn as he went from a revenge driven viking to a literal slave who spent years finally learning to move forward. Then it decided to smoulder and burn.

Then the Baltic Sea arc happened and with it came a few problems. Hilde as an external representation of Thorfinn's bloody past could be fine but she's far too blunt a character and not interesting either. The spear autist fills a similar role, reflecting Thorfinn's edginess without the same backstory to justify or contextualize it. He's the shallow representation of what Thorfinn was. The sheer amount of time dealing with Floki and his bullshit just ate away at the story. And Gurdrid and the baby are equally annoying for how they impacted the story.

The story also started to suck off modern ideologies more often although I still think some moments like the viking dying and musing about the afterlife after the raid on Floki's compound was good. But that snowballed into a transexual son of Thorkell. We also skipped Istanbul (no not Constantinople) so fuck merchant saga I guess? We need more politicking.

Baltic Sea was already a slog, a true slog not what people think of Farmland Saga. And Thorfinn's character is no longer interesting when his ideology can only confront caricatures and cardboard cutouts. It's shit now. It's like how Berserk took an arrow to the knee in terms of quality after Guts got his new crew.

Based Yukimura triggering retards

While I agree, this was evident from the very start, or after the longboat carrying

This is some buddhist thing about going from one extreme to the other and finally finding balance. But who knows if Thorfinn finds balance in Vinland the story moves so slow. Also Hox left because he was pissed about Grikkland.

He's not transgender why do you keep pushing this? It's like when tw*tter makes shit up to get offended by.

Agree with you on the viking afterlife part of Baltic sea. That was the best moment in that arc

nobody gives a shit, he's a distortion of reality which means death by firing squad

Askeladd died. The end

You think weird people didn't exist 1000 years ago?