Why did Archer lose to Berserker? He has UBW and NLBW

I seriously doubt that he tried to trace Berserker's stone sword and noticed Nine Lives. That doesn't seen a very Archer move to do.

Shinji would have empowered her by a decent amount if he didn't choose the school as the area for his blood fortress. While he didn't know about kuzuki, he sure as fuck knew that rin and shirou were masters.

It also wouldn't work.
Fuck it wouldn't even have worked in HF if Berserker hadn't literally stopped by resisting the mud

He doesn't have NLBW desu

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NLBW actually killed Berserk only once after two usage. Blacked Berserk has one last life and thought he still fight Saber

>Also, he doesn't have NLBW. That's exclusive to HF Shirou
This is a retarded conclusion. There is nothing Shirou can do that Archer can't, aside from project Avalon which requires a direct link to Saber.

Isn't UBW the perfect counter to Gil's GoB?

Only because it has a faster draw speed. It's objectively inferior in all other fields.

But NLBW is Shirou's creation and he use it instead of Archer's UBW. They're not exactly same. Archer will 100% use something different in such situation. Not creating same thing as Shirou because they're still think differently.

>Berserker class (Attack buff class)
>Heracles, divinity, well known lore, stronger than average
>12 lives
>only A rank NPs can kill him
>cant be killed by the same method again

It was actually impressive that Archer could defeat him more than once.

Also this, skip to 34:25. Mute it as well cuz they guy is annoying.

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Shirou can't create anything. He can only copy. Nine Lives Blade Works is just an inferior copy of Nine Lives.

I remember when Heracles was genuinely threatening. Good times.

If it's not his creation why he use
>Nine Lives Blade Works
instead of
>Nine Lives

He still is. Even in FGO it usually takes multiple Servants to beat him. The only one to ever fight him on their own is the mad Lostbelt Artemis with an Anti-Planet Noble Phantasm. Heracles was actually able to block it for a bit even.

Because it's not Nine Lives. It's a really, really shitty version because Archer's arm can only emulate it so far. It'l like how Archer in CCC calls his Excalibur "Image" to denote just how much shittier it is than his other copies.

I just rewarched scene and think you explanation is wrong. Because when Shirou use Rho Aias he use Rho Aias instead of Rho Aias Blade/Shield Works. And his Rho Aias is still really really shitty version of real Rho Aias. Picrelated probably explains why he use Blade Works.

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Your pic related doesn't explain shit because it explicitly states that he can only use what's recorded in his arm. Meaning his Nine Lives Blade Works is also borrowed directly from Archer. Throughout Heaven's Feel, Shirou only ever uses shittier versions of Archer's kit.

It's funny how so many of the writers and artists who work for TYPE-MOON just have zero respect for Heracles. First a C-rank NP is able to kill him and now a kick from Mash actually does something. No respect at all.

gg/3EytTBJ

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I mean he have seen Rho Aias directly so he can just use Rho Aias, but for Nine Lives he use Archer's UBW as pocket so that's why it's Blade Works since. Yeah it's not his creation you're right.

Because he didn't feel like winning

Everyone loves Mashu bro.

Nah. He can't use Crane Wing properly either. The reason he can't give Aius all seven petals is because of his swordcancer. He can't give it the necessary number of od to generate all seven petals. Shields require 3x more od than swords do.

>He can't use Crane Wing properly either
But it's actually make sense. Crane Wing is Archer's tech so it's at more deeper level. And he was on the his limits.

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Artemis didn't really "fight" Heracles so much as repeatedly try to laser Jason to death while Heracles blocked it. Obviously a full Greek god is stronger than Heracles anyway, but Herc alone could probably have run away for a long time if he wanted to.
But basically every other time Heracles has appeared in FGO he's gone on a rampage and fucked everyone up harder than the final boss of the singularity so the point is moot. Herc is still a big deal.

>cladbolg from afar
lmao dumb bitch

He makes it through six lives before he gets tagged. Remember, he had to kill him thirteen times, Berserker only needed to kill Emiya once.

>Hollow Ataraxia Hrunting scene
I really want to see Archer doing archer things. Anime when?

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Archer can't go all out without hurting Illya.

Isn't in theory he can win in such situation? If he aim to kill Illya he will force Berserk to defend. UBW spam is faster than GoB.

Irrelevant, archer would never hurt Illya, even for ruse purposes.

Saber damaged Archer's Spirit Core early in the Fate route, so he was never at full strength. His stats are also below average, he carries himself with UBW by tracing NPs and the technique of their owners and BP spam, the latter he couldn't utilize against Herc because he was forced into close combat.

Berserker Herc also has fallen victim to a bunch of shitposting because of that one Shiki fanfic and David panel, as well as not being at 100% strength in FGO since Guda can't take it, however he is still an unconquerable mountain for most servants.

Yes, Archer (Emiya) is supposed to be one of the strongest. Why was this?

>has fallen victim to a bunch of shitposting
Who doesn't tho?

youtube.com/watch?v=U7n0e5XMV-Y
>Kills Shirou and Saber by spamming Hrunting
>Puts Saber in checkmate by standing on a residentual skyscraper which she can't Excalibur without killing the inhabitants
>She also can't advance because she has to guard Hrunting shots and if she abandons Shirou Archer will kill him
>Only gets defeated once ShirouAvenger figures out how to use UBW and Rho Aias to guard himself and then uses a command spell to make Saber fly towards Archer
This is by far my favorite fight in the entire franchise. Jack vs Alcides is also pretty good but I don't like how Alcides was just able to whip out another NP to not die.

Kek. He is weak as shit if he isn't sniping from few km away

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The ones that aren't jobbers or kekbait.

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>figures out how to use UBW and Rho Aias to guard himself and then uses a command spell to make Saber fly towards Archer
They outsmarted him. They bet everything. If Archer shot at Saber he would have won.

The thing is that Berserker Herc doesn't get retroactive wanking like Gil does, so a lot of the newer released big name Servants appear stronger, even though a lot of them still wouldn't be able to beat Berserker Herc. It also doesn't help that we'll never ever get a true Archer Herc.

>Lostbelt Artemis with an Anti-Planet Noble Phantasm.

Fate is ever declining. Now every other hero is a little girl and has planet-busters.

His main objective was to stop Shirou from crossing the bridge. Archer couldn't have possibly known that Shirou figured out how to use Rho Aias since only Shirou was aware of the time loop.

/tmg/ is not here you baka.

>Little girl
I wish, I would have prefered more humane greek gods to the mechas we got.

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And ever declining...

Turning gods into mashines was the only interesting thing about F/go. Everything there is so predictable and boring

We've known about the Mecha Greeks way before FGO though.

>if he isn't sniping from few km away
You said it yourself.

Too bad he was stuck in a Castle with Herc

>UBW
>NLBW
What?

you're talking to people who have only watched zero