Where the fuck did this shit start? There’s nothing to suggest that the writer is female, anywhere, and their pen name is actually very masculine. Additionally, I asked my Japanese friends what they thought about that, and they were surprised people think that, as no one in Japan thinks Dotoge is a chick. So can we stop with this retarded meme?
Not to the Japs they don’t. That sounds more like projecting to me.
Angel White
>so can we stop this retarded meme No
Jeremiah Wilson
Western wants to flaunt female "representative" when Jap has doing this shit in this industry for years
Jayden Young
Decades I mean
Luke White
funnily enough it's the Japanese who started this. It's back in the day when Kimetsu wasn't famous. there's no indication croc is a man either so just use whatever you find fit. seriously, what's the point of all this? people don't really care about pronouns.
Jeremiah Howard
>Obsessed.
Jason Brown
Why some mangaka keep their gender secret? I thought Japan doesn't care about gender issues as much as the west
Why should they reveal any info about themselves? The amount of obsessed fan out there make them reluctant to reveal anything.
Henry Gutierrez
>it’s the Japanese who started it Clearly not, as I live in Japan, and I’ve asked all my friends their thoughts on the matter, and they’re all surprised, it honestly sounds more like and that’s why it’s fucking obnoxious. Western retards going around shoving their diversity shit wherever they can. When no one ever batted an eyelash over FMA or Inuyasha being written by chicks.
The most logical assumption is that Gotouge is a man, considering their pen name is masculine, and the fact that manga is male dominant. Only reason people are saying he’s a chick, is cause they’re dumb fujos who want it to be so.
Mason Harris
Retard.
Brandon Watson
you say as much but the truth is Wani is a croc
Julian Hernandez
So, so dumb retards on Twitter made something up with zero evidence, and the anime community just went along with it?As for , where’s your “the Japs started it” nonsense now?
Jason White
lol XD
Aaron Phillips
Wasn't there a magazine blurb where the author talks about her and the editor as having a big brother little sister relationship?
Wani has her editor and Jump use genderless pronouns to refer to her, which is a Japanese thing older than SJWism. Since men never ask for this treatment everyone assumes it's a woman that doesn't want to have to do public woman bullshit.
Ethan Barnes
Stupid Fujo.
Isaac Cook
the manga just has that feminine touch
Grayson Phillips
>author doesn’t wanna be refered to as a woman, because they’re not >cLEarlY tHeY MuSt bE FeMalE!! Fucking idiots.
Oliver Phillips
it was way way back like when in 2017 when majority of nips still don't know Kimetsu exist.
Jacob Parker
Absolutely zero evidence, just pointless speculation from LARPers on Twitter. Post the original interview in Japanese. I can read nip, I’ll translate it for you.
>Gender neutral pronouns in Japanese This is how I know this whole stuff is bullshit, as Japanese doesn’t have that. Casually you can say >彼、女彼、男の子、女の子 But never to your superiors, in which cause a mangaka would be to their editor. In such a situation you refer to them by their name if you’re close, or by their title if you want to retain respect. ie, Gotouge Sensei.
There are no “gender neutral pronouns” in Japanese as outside of first person, pronouns are hardly ever used in Japanese at all. Thus, no request would ever be made by anyone.
Elijah Rodriguez
face it you are a woman hating incel. if you read the manga it’s obviously written by a woman
Zachary Richardson
Hell, not only that, but you actually have gender-SPECIFIC 1st person pronouns in Japanese. With 俺 being exclusive to men, and あたし being exclusive to women. Japanese actually goes an extra way divide the language BY gender, as different sexes are expected to speak in different ways. What absolutely retarded bullshit.
Is this entire fucking nonsense built upon some LARPers on Twitter made a bunch of shit up and everyone blindly believed them? Really?
Jack Williams
>It's obvious it's written by woman So what's the characteristics of this one specific WSJ schlock
Is that seriously all you got? Your stupid nonsense gets called out and rather than produce evidence to back your claims, you lash out at people for destroying your silly fantasy >face it you are a woman hating incel Except not really, as some of my favorite manga are written by women. FMA being a prime example. > if you read the manga it’s obviously written by a woman It’s obviously not, especially considering no one in Japan thinks so. Also, you’re not even reading it in Japanese, which is the original material. Also, their pen name is masculine. There is nothing to suggest Gotouge is a woman outside of the delusional fantasies of SJWs.
do you know what this says? someone said before that the little blurb in the bottom right is wani talking about her and her editor as having a big brother-little sister relationship, and specifically specifies "sister"
Hudson Price
>du-dude trust me i’m not an incel! i love women!!
Isaac Ward
Also, if you read the manga Maybe if YOU read the manga in Japanese as it’s intended to be, you’d realize there’s nothing particularly feminine about the writing.
user just wants proof it's a chick. I wouldn't worry about it. If it turns out it's a dude, we win. If it really is a women then we made progress and that means we win again. Just let them have their fun for now.
Daniel Hill
Do people really care about pronouns here, 4ch? I mean this is Yas Forums, the more you get triggered by it, the more people going to use it. Just use whatever you want. There's no way you could stop people from using it.
Justin Cooper
I can’t read it very well as it’s too blurry, but the kanji for brother is there. He ends it with the usual yoroshikuonegaishimasu, and he does talk about his editor.
Joseph Thomas
found a bigger version, maybe this is easier to read?
Get me a higher res version of it and I can read it. Or just tell me where it’s from exactly, and I’ll pick up the book myself and take a better image. From that snapshot, I can make out that they like Jojo and Crayon Shin-chan among other things. Also something about Wednesday, May, and Spring. In their profile info.
Sebastian King
here's a bigger version
Jaxson Gray
The croc just feels and looks like a 40 year old Japanese man to me.
Thank you for sending me letters. It looks like Tantaou san (person in charge- but seems to refer to the editor), and I both lived separated from out siblings (兄妹 means this). Thank you very much.
There’s absolutely nothing about a siscon complex here at all.
Jace Adams
Here he’s just encouraging kids on drawing manga. And the tone that he writes in sounds like that of a middle aged man, like that of a school principal encouraging kids. There’s no feminine enders, like わ or ね thrown about everywhere. If anything, based on how their naturally write, it further suggests that Gotouge is a man.
Levi Young
>兄妹 >Google translate it as brother and sister THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF EOP. Now I can see where the misunderstanding come from
Aiden Mitchell
i wasn't talking about a siscon complex, i was saying the words used refer specifically to a big brother and a little sister. doesn't 妹 have a female character in it?
Evan Peterson
I think we have this discussion several times and at the end it's just fuck it. you use she I use he and everyone is fine.
Cooper Nelson
the artstyle tells all about it. It's clearly a woman who did it. I don't see the problem
As he said it's saying that both the mangaka and the editor lived away from their siblings, there's nothing to suggest the mangaka is the little sister and not the big brother, so to speak.
Caleb Kelly
oh okay, thought the sibling relationship referred to wani and editor, not their own siblings
Brayden Thompson
Croc is just croc to me
Levi Torres
He uses Ani and Imouto, yes, but the way he wrote it seems like it’s almost referencing the manga’s main characters.
I don’t think Kyoudai here is referring to his relationship with the editor given that 生き別れ means parting, to separate for life, etc... I think he’s referring to their irl siblings. But I can ask a Japanese friend to clarify.
Wanna take a crack at it hotshot? Context matters.
Robert Gomez
Yeah I’m even more confused now. I’m just going to assume the author is actually a Croc and call it a day.
Carson Harris
There’s absolutely nothing to suggest Gotouge is a woman outside of some made up bullshit by some LARPers on Twitter who can’t even read Japanese, and thought 兄妹 was referring to his relationship with the editor because they took the word out of context. On the contrary, this writing style strongly suggests he’s a man.
Hunter Price
>there’s nothing particularly feminine about the writing. You could say the same about Dorohedoro, and/or say Mushishi yet both are written by women.
Exactly. However, there’s no evidence that Gotouge is a woman, and his pen name is masculine. So why would you refer to him as “she” if there’s absolutely no foundation for it?
Julian Smith
Its pretty common outside of that. In my experience watashi is the most commonly heard pronoun for any one that isn't a kid in the few times that I've bothered to watch an anime over reading it.
Camden Kelly
the female characters are shit so wani must be a man
Nolan Long
Spoken like a true sperg. You have nothing to say and your only retort is incel. Pretty pathetic for a cracker honestly.
>hurrrincel
Post your info right now and let's see you. I'll love to meet you and my lead.
Jace Reyes
あたし is for women. 私 is a perfectly normal way of saying “I” for both men and women when in a polite environment, or when addressing kids (which is what he’s doing). 僕 is too snobbish, and meant to be used by the young anyway, and 俺 way too casual, and almost rude for this context. Given it’s a letter to fans, 私 is the most appropriate pronoun to use.
Jackson Fisher
Isn't it commen for female authors to use masculine pen names? Like the FMA author. And one of the author comments talks about cute female assistants which would be less likely to fly if it was a dude.
Matthew Morris
For fun
Jackson Reyes
I wouldn’t say it’s common. Arakawa did it, but not all female mangaka do it. Fir example, Rumiko Takahashi didn’t do it, Naoko Takeuchi, and Sakura Momoko didn’t either. In fact, I can probably list more who didn’t use male pen names, than those that did. As Hiromi Arakawa is the only one that springs to mind.
Brayden Richardson
Retardkun, Jap artists draw cutely whatever they want to fuck and given that the guys all look like girls and are often half naked fanservice like Muzan (whilst there's no fanservice on the girl side), you would have to be blind and also retarded not to think that the author is a female. Read more manga and kill yourself.