techdirt.com/articles/20200311/10263944082/japan-approves-new-law-to-make-manga-piracy-criminal-offense.shtml >The draft legislation criminalizes the downloading of unlicensed manga, magazines and academic publications from the Internet. The penalties will be brought into line for those already in place for music and movies with a maximum two-year prison sentence and/or a fine of two million yen (US$19,118). The most severe penalties will be reserved for egregious and repeat offenders. In a step back from earlier proposals, Internet users will be allowed to download some image-based and academic content for limited private use in order not to stifle the flow of information and education, provided that activity does not impact copyright holders. Where the precise boundaries lie is currently unclear, however.
>The penalties will be brought into line for those already in place for music and movies yeah because those are already really effective
Leo Morales
>criminalizes the downloading from the internet >/limited/ private use good bye memes also?
Hunter Wilson
Who even uses japanese raws nowadays? Isn't most of it gook and chink stuff? At least for WSJ?
Dominic Nelson
>the downloading Can't do shit to that many people. Best they'll do is get after a poor dude whenever they're thirsty for money and make him pay while ignoring the remainder.
Luke Sanchez
I'll finally have the motivation to learn Japanese.
Camden Sanchez
>Downloading Nothing about uploading? You could argue that scanning a product you bought for preservation purposes isn't illegal
Luke Sullivan
Only because they're available first and nobody cares about quality.
John Hill
fpbp
Ethan Anderson
good fucking luck
Oliver Allen
Short of shutting down nyaa, how is this going to change anything?
Hudson Flores
>good quality raws for anything that isn't porn are nonexistent Have fun.
Owen Ramirez
mainichi.jp/english/articles/20200229/p2a/00m/0na/005000c >A total of some 250 individuals, companies and organizations that operate music schools across Japan, including the country's largest music school operator Yamaha Music Foundation, brought a lawsuit in June 2017 against the Japanese Society for Rights of Authors, Composers and Publishers (JASRAC) after the organization announced four months earlier that it would charge music schools copyright fees for songs played in lessons. The copyright law can go fuck itself. If you value freedom pirating media is a matter of principle.
Jackson Davis
Not that user, but already started. Only 5 more years to go.
won't for non japs. The west doesn't give a fuck about manga enough, nor do the japs have enough money to force them to care.
William Lee
>implying this will stop anyone
Connor Miller
>shutting down nyaa How? The Japanese courts have no jurisdiction over it, the best they could do was making Cloudflare deplatform it.
Nolan Rodriguez
Doesn't USA have even bigger anti-piracy policies and yet you can just download anything you want from the internet???
Julian Perry
Yes
Aaron Brown
We do. Torrents still exist.
Matthew Perry
it's just a PR bill. Designed to scare and deter normals from piracy.
Jackson Peterson
>academic publications from the Internet what in the actual fuck japan academic papers aren't even sold by the authors, they're reproduced and sold by a third-party racket while remaining free at the point of authorship (literally ask any professor for their paper and they'd be thrilled to give it away)
but let me guess: "It can't be helped, just ask for them to fax your secretary a copy instead"
Cameron Rogers
>The Japanese courts have no jurisdiction over it
In theory.
In practice, what's stopping them from threatening a tax on exports and/or tourism if the rest of the world doesn't help enforce the ban?
Caleb Thomas
Boomers actually think if they threaten the population with severe enough punishment the piracy will cease to exist lol.
>In practice, what's stopping them from threatening a tax on exports and/or tourism if the rest of the world doesn't help enforce the ban? The manga industry would have to be suicidal, they'd lose so much money. Nor does Japan want to antagonize anyone over what is mostly a domestic """"problem"""".
Matthew Evans
I thought downloading was already criminalized. At this point I'm surprised they haven't used the death penalty for this yet.
Oliver Jones
With shitty methods like that, make that 10.
Gabriel Mitchell
Yes, but I only download foreign media anyway. The only American media I watch is Jeopardy! at 7:30 on weeknights, which is freely televised.
If you seriously think Japan going to tank actual, productive sectors of their economy in order to save comic books, you're a loonie.
Oliver Bell
please just get a fucking textbook
Brandon Morales
I do have one. This is online practice brainlet.
Ethan Adams
They are. Japanese music and movies have almost no presence outside of Japan. There's a shit ton of japanese music you literally can't find without trolling the pages of playasia or some other shithole import site. Well that's what they wanted
Carson Ortiz
recommend me one then.
Jason Lopez
Is reading physical copies of manga the only way to enjoy the medium in Japan? I ask because sites like Shonen Jump allow people to pay for a monthly subscription to read its manga digitally. Digital viewing is my preferred method of enjoying manga.
Jordan Long
It's unenforceable. It's the same as saying "were' going to penalize people for pirating".
Dylan White
In retrospect only kanji is a pain in the ass rest of the language is piss easy
Aiden Ortiz
Use Genki?
Jeremiah Watson
those have been illegal for ages, this is addressing to those linking to them
Nolan Martin
>only the non-phonetic part is difficult high iq post
Camden Brown
>has never heard of soulseek
Leo King
It will if the punishment will be applied even in minority of cases.
Wyatt Gutierrez
It's like we've had this kind of news for the last ten years or something. It's like we have had this kind of threads with OP the faggot trying to fearmonger in vain or something.
Jeremiah Green
Japanese isn't hard. Only dekinai think it's hard
Jaxon White
100% true
Jason Wright
>Japanese music and movies have almost no presence outside of Japan you're obviously not looking hard enough
Henry Bennett
New black ships when?
Jack Fisher
Hanzi/Kanji alone are worse than anything I've ever encountered in Finnish, Russian, or English.
How the Japs never pulled a Korea and scrapped their stupid fucking logographic bullshit for a simplified writing system is insane to me.
Anthony Bell
The point is that you have to look hard. Anime, you don't even have to try.
Josiah Morales
Probably talking about non-anime related stuff. I've had a lot of trouble tracking down some songs that aren't anime OPs and EDs, no doubt live action shows are even harder to find, especially subbed.
David Moore
Is your father a company employee? Yes he is No, he is a doctor No, he is a lawyer
Benjamin Foster
Japanese has too many homophones for the language to work without kanji is the excuse you usually get.
Ethan Edwards
On the topic of hard to find things, where can I find old nip films from the 30s and 40s? They should be in the public domain even after Tokyo decided to extend copyright to cover Kurosawa's films, but I can't find very many of them.
Dylan Peterson
Correct answer is yes by the way.
Jeremiah Ortiz
What if he was a salary man, but is now a warmongering loli?
Who do you think has actual influence? The professors or the "third-party racket"?
Charles Fisher
>Yes, but I only download foreign media anyway.
A crap ton of anime is American-licensed, meaning you can get punished for downloading it if caught. It's best to use a VPN and be safe.
Jaxon Morales
Looks like hell, I can read お父さんは会社員ですか at a glance but have to actually focus to read hiragana
James Long
Nip without chinese runes seems unnecessarily confusing.
Blake Price
Did they even make films during those times? Either case, if you haven't found it in any public domain film specific sites then either there aren't any, there aren't any on the web, or they're not categorized and tagged in an easy to search way. You might have to track them down using the japanese language. Worst case scenario they weren't uploaded but kept in museum like locations.
Jason Hill
Thankfully exercises start using kanji soon.
Ethan Rodriguez
You're not actually paying for music, are you?
Jeremiah Rivera
First two lessons only use hiragana. Third starts with kanji. By the end of both books, you learn about 300.
Zachary Richardson
>no kanji At best you started a couple weeks ago, and even then the total amount of time you spent actually studying was less than 10 hours. Hell hasn't even begun for you. At the VERY LEAST you've watched 200 anime, right?
That's what happens when you don't have spaces, you can't just glance at things and recognize a word just by the shape of it. Kanji obviously helps, but there are quite a few similarly shaped Kanji too.
Liam Perez
a lot of public raws are japanese and pretty much everyone scanning/ripping themself
Hudson Powell
210 anime
Christian Collins
Yes, there's a couple hundred surviving films from those decades. Pre-war Japan was the biggest film industry outside the United States and maybe France. There's some available to stream, but even searching their Japanese titles doesn't yield much results on search engines, so I wonder if there's some site that offers direct downloads or torrents. Obviously a lot of them aren't subbed.
Colton Roberts
Why are the other two wrong?
Anthony Perez
>sentences that never end >words you will never see outside this one text >dude you didn't forget these 300 fish and plant names right? i'm going to write it with a kanji this time, just to make sure >here is yet another way of expressing this grammatical concept >some reference that ends up looking like gibberish to the clueless virgin gaijin depends on what you read i guess
Jayden Torres
Wow it's fucking nothing. At worst they're going to shut down high profile groups like JB, just like what happened to Mangastream. The thousand groups machine translating isekai and the couple dozen translating obscure manga for 30 people have nothing to worry.
Justin Campbell
That's only because they decided to introduce fucking kanji in the first place. They could have just stuck to glorious yamato kotoba instead of mixing it with ugly chink.
