Train your whole life

Basically. Even the most mediocre of the talented can beat a talentless person who puts the same amount of work. That's why you always get "talented by lazy" on fiction. We instinctively know that hard work would never beat cultivated talent.

Hunter x Hunter is the ultimate blackpill anime. Hard work will never amount to anything, ever. Talent. Is. Everything.

Netero is 100% Hardwork and he managed to not get wrecked instantly by the strongest character at 110 or something.

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Mozart wrote his first symphony when he was 8 years old.
Your talent for being a moron is really high level.

>I'd argue there's little inborn talent in something like music.
Uhh no, that isn't remotely true.
In fact music is probably one of the most obvious examples of inborn talent being a huge deal, at least when it comes to non-physical related things.

wasent he really fucking talented though? with like natural chad genetics? all he shows is that talent+hard work will lose to super talented meruem who didnt do a single second of training.

>really talented
>every single day of his life he was training his martial arts
>had an autistic training montage at 46 years old where he punched for 4 years (to possibly? awakene nen?).

yep, you can be talented and a super hard worker. its allowed. and its a further dab on normal people who think that they have the training longer advantage. when it turns out insanely talented savants will do the same thing over and over again for years with more natural talent.

Point is, Netero was definitelly worse off than even zushi if you look at how long it took him to grow his power.

all nen users are already more talented than most, shit most people can't pass the nenless hunter exam

I read the manga up to this part before dropping it (not over this specifically, just bored), does the manga actually have any sympathy for him later on or does he just disappear?

You just described hard work you fucking mongoloid.

it's one of the reasons I roll my eyes at the fans who jerk off to the writing. In so many ways it's such a generic shonen

wrong. because netero invented the entire nen system that is used and all of its basic applications, as is stated a lot during the series. my view of it is that he awakened through nothing but willpower/enlightenment, then understood and refined techniques using nen.

zushi had the benefit of having someone tell him exactly how to achiev nen, and then tell him exactly how to use the techniques. netero had to awaken by himself, then invent and refine all nen ideas himself.

true, which is my point. if someone is naturally gifted at mozart level, then works hard. a normal person can never ever catch up to them.

>Netero invented the nen system
Hahahaha no, you're fucking retarded, bye.

In fairness, Killua trained harder and longer. Including in that arena years prior.
Gon is bullshit though. He just ran around in the woods or whatever.

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I guess the problem with applying it to hxh is that the two protagonists that shit on the kid never actually worked hard. Gon just played in the forest as a kid and killua had the unexplained "really hard childhood" trope

>Gon is bullshit though. He just ran around in the woods or whatever.
That's called deconstruction. Go to college or something before you come on on board and make stupid statements

The real bullshit though is all the other fighters in the arena who have presumably been fighting for many years, but still lose to children.

The problem with 'hard work vs talent' narratives is that if the so called hard worker surpasses the person with so called natural talent one can simply dismiss their victory as them having a talent for hard work.
I think a better message would be finding your talent, and in the words of pixar movie 'Ratatouille' "Not everyone can become a great artist, but a great artist can come from anywhere."

>Netero is 100% Hardwork
Do we know shit about his dad or granddad?

Also fights between nen users being broadcast to the masses but somehow it's still a big secret to the masses

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stop speedreading. go ahead and reread the entire manga, and then realize that every nen teacher is a student of netero directly or indirectly. and that every nen user uses that exact approach and technique that was developed by him.

God tier bait

Where does it state Netero invented the nen system, shitposter-kun?

read it. please read user.

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Maybe everyone knows that people have these supernatural abilities, but don't actually know how to attain them, or what exactly they are.

Wasn't this guy supposed to be a prodigy as well but Gon and Killua were just super prodigies and cucked him?

That's not the nen-system you goddamn mongoloid. That's one way to awaken NEN.

Gon trained his whole life on the island. Killua was trained as a child. Retard.

Holy fuck you're stupid. It doesn't say Netero invented nen at all. I'm not even the person you're arguing with. Why are so many retards attracted to this series?

All nen users are inherently prodigies among humans.

I was under the impression that he was super old, since he was old even when killuas grandpa was born. Anyways yeah it really seems like he worked at becoming OP

learn to infer. we have no info of nen training prior to that point. all current nen users use the exact same system devised by that style. neteros school of training produced every nen user that has a named school. i honestly think critical thinking is going down.

>all current nen users use the exact same system devised by that style. neteros school of training produced every nen user that has a named school
Every non-hunter that has acquired NEN begs to differ, as well as hunters who knew about nen before the exam.

knowledge of the teachings has spread. you will notice they use the categories that is used by the teachers of neteros school. and the same test. and the same phrases such as ko, hatsu, ect. and the fact that again, every teacher of nen, and everyone who gets asked, say they follow neteros school of nen. and netero would teach anyone who was talented even evil people because hes a dick and has very little morals.

So this is what double digit IQ looks like? Nice to know I guess.

How do you know someone didn't teach Netero an already established school of nen that he incorporated into his kung fu shit? You don't, you're talking out your ass. Fuck off retard

you're still assuming it's netero you trisomy fag

Idealistic bellow the neck retard.

and how do you know that netero didnt come from the moon and is an alien because we dont know his parents. its called infering and using your head. i said it once and ill say it again, here are the facts.

1)netero spent years meditating not on nen but just in general. eventually he awakened nen from this.
2) he made his own school of nen/martial ideas and taught it
3) all nen teachers that we know of follow this school
4) all nen users use the same basic methods and training.

what can we infer from this? that netero either modified or created the basic nen system in hxh. and is at the very least a genius who altered the way nen is taught to the point where everyone we know of uses it.

This.

Talent. Is. EVERYTHING.

I don't think you know what infering means, shitposter-kun. None of what you said could be taken as evidence and on the contrary there's plenty to refute your little hypothesis. already buried your entire drug trip.

never ever mentioned let alone infered, fuck off retard

Holy fuck you're stupid. I never claimed Netero is a fucking moon alien. You're the one who claimed Netero fucking invented nen, retard. That claim has absolutely 0 basis. Step in front of a bus, you're too stupid to keep living

Practice don't equal challenges. It is important to practice often but without challenges there is no improvement after the initial basics.
Only challenges can elevate someone skill level to another level in real life.

That is why good schools have difficult, sudden and always changing tests. Often.
And that is why people who reached the top of their field are usually assholes who loves to pick fight with their peers.

I can practice playing football for ten years in my neighborhood and yet someone who do it for one year but keep playing against district and regional champions and does not stop himself from trying to challenge current and previous u-18 national representatives into futsal matches will absolutely crush me. And rightfully so.

"infer: deduce or conclude (something) from evidence and reasoning rather than from explicit statements.
"from these facts we can infer that crime has been increasing""
so infering is literally exactly what im doing.
as for this see this

that was hyperbole/metaphor. if you dont understand that then jesus. also read the definition of infer, and see this post

yeah and from your posts we all can infer you are retarded ,thanks for posting

>that was hyperbole/metaphor
>No I was only pretending to be retarded
Like fucking clockwork

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Gon and Killua have potential due having a implied connection to the dark continent.

at the end you cant actually dispute my theory. whatever, thats enough Yas Forums civilized discussion for today. honestly Yas Forums users are the fucking worst.

You can't infer that netero created the nen hexagram since there is NO EVIDENCE to suggest it came from his school in the first place. And even if you suppose it did, there is NO EVIDENCE to suggest he is the creator. Furthermore Nen has existed since forever in the HxH setting, look at Kakin empire with their Nen beast for example and people who know about nen and aren't part of the hunter organisation. Look at Hanzo, look at Hisoka. You're genuinely double digit.

what? since when was using a metaphor pretending to be retarded? do you know what a metaphor is? are you a native english speaker? metaphors are used to convay meaning, again Yas Forums users need to fuck off already.

>genuinely retarded
>gets completely btfod
>still think he's smart because somehow he's too retarded to realise he's been btfod
>"Whatever guys you're just Yas Forums, lol"

No that goes too far. You are basically saying he was the first to awaken his nen knowingly. You could be right but to say that this is what we should infer is ridiculous. We don't know the history of nen and that's it

You never used a metaphor. I think maybe you are the one who needs to read up on definitions. Also, you cannot infer the history on nen in HxH just by what we know of Netero. You are assuming a ridiculous amount.

how do you explain the fact that all nen users/ teachers follow the exact same basic and more advanced techniques

>Could have easily just said the two kids had a more fierce lifestyle that made learning nen easier for them
>Didn't
What the fuck was Wing's problem?

>cant even reply properly
interesting.

talent > hard work

>Mozart wrote his first symphony when he was 8 years old.
Mozart's father still had to work him to death before he could do that. On top of having talent, it helped that his entire life was music. Anyone who thinks that talent > hardwork is retarded.

that isn't true tho?