Pro wrestling

Shit expecetion nigger meanwhile Jack hager (who was jack swagger in WWE) is undefeated in bellator

Lesnar* and the dude was a freak athlete and was an amateur wrestling national champions, hardly counts. He got no advantage fromd oing pro wrestling

Lesnar was the UFC heavyweight champ for a while

Martial arts manga also like to pretend Karate is top tier
It's just for fun

Think they may have started in the 50s and 60s where they would get other fighters from various martial arts, pay them for fake fights and then fucking beat the shit out of them when they weren't expecting a real fight
youtube.com/watch?v=wtwqmU2eV6M

Go back to /asp/ and

>this strong wrestler doesn't count because he's a strong wrestler and that doesn't fit my narrative

Karate can be pretty decent, i'd take it over boxing.

>Brock lesnar is the only wrestler with a background
Kurt angle then?

The obvious answer is that those authors like pro-wrestling and/or thought it'd make an interesting gimmick for a character. They may or may not believe that real pro-wrestlers are strong fighters in comparison to other combat sports, but does that really matter? These are fictional stories, none of the martial arts is depicted with realism in mind.

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Yea there's a saying about how different countries treat pro wrestling.
In Japan it's a sport.
In Canada it's a tradition.
In Mexico it's a religion.
In America it's a joke.

The okinawan fighting form is legit

Is bjj any good?

They pull off all kinds of stunts and spots almost every day, yes they are tough. That doesn't necessarily mean they are good fighters, but they have good conditioning and can take punishment.

arguably boxing gives you lighter footwork

Yeah, catch wrestling. He's not saying you need to do a Styles Clash in a street fight

battle mangakas are retarded

You sure he doesn't mean actual wrestling and not the "pro wrestling"?

Kurt Angle was a literal olympic medalist winner in freestyle wrestling before ever going into pro wrestling, it's like you calling Cain Velasquez a pro wrestler and giving it credit for his wins in MMA

There is a huge difference between pro wrestling and actual wrestling. Have you ever seen a real wrestling match? Not very entertaining to watch since its literally just some dude trying to flip another dude on his back. No crazy stunts or any flips from the high ropes, just two guys strangling each other.

Perhaps but it's waymore limited compared to Kyokushin, yes that doesn't allow punches to the head(allows kicks for some reason and people can kick harder than they can punch) but in a real fights there are no rules for punching to the head.
People act how good boxing is supposed to be in street fights, but what's stopping an amateur wrestler or judoka from dropping a boxer head first on concrete? Muay thai kicks and knees would fuck a boxer up too.

All OP(You) asked was why pro wrestlers are portrayed as tough fighters.
Cain Velasquez is
>a pro wrestler
>a tough fighter
Sounds like OP's question has been answered and he can go eat a dick now.

>what is reading comprehensiona nd context
This is you brain on mandrama.

Mmmmmm time for some pure strikes

Didn't the Kengan author said he went to some sort of underground wrestling match where the contender were actually doing some hardcore shit like fighting with long ass nails all over the body? At least that seems to be pretty real and that's the base of the pro-wrestling he describes in the series, not sure about the other 2.

95% of wrestlers after 1970's are tryhard betamales

>In America it's a joke.
>X totally killed Y and his family because he was a satanist character in the show. Why won't the police believe me?
Smarks are idiots

Too gay to be used in mangas.

Machida destroyed the undefeated Rashad Evans and won the world title with karate.

The punch is the simplest form of offense so a lot more time and energy can be spent on perfecting it. A boxer might be limited in technique compared to a more complete style like karate but he will usually dismantle people with sheer speed and precision, not to mention power.
youtube.com/watch?v=LeIBX0gwG1k
youtube.com/watch?v=K_S2f7QPZKc
This isn't meant to be an example of boxing's effectiveness against other martial arts, but note the speed and the sheer force. The fights are over almost before they begun. A punch is the easiest thing to throw.

Because Karl Gotch went to japan and literally defeated every single martial artist that came to fight him, karate, judo, jujitsu you name it.
There's actually a video of him talking about it like a few months before he passed away.
Watch this for an example
youtube.com/watch?v=OYc_OzuXEXM

Is this what american tv is like? Holy fuck why are women allowed to speak in public?

Wrestling can't be 100% fake. There's no way they're taking no damage when some dude jumps off the top rope.

Pro wrestling is cool.
besides, it's not like a bunch of commonly practiced nip martial arts are actually practical in any way, pro wrestling is just up front about the fact these days

Ultimately, the goal is to put on a show above all else.
A lot of pro wrestling is about trying to minimize actual damage while still looking exciting and brutal.

Still, getting hurt an expected part of the job, and if actually just outright hitting the other guy is going to sell the fight better, that's what happens.

Judo, Karate, Jiu Jitsu are actual martial arts that can be used in an actual fight though, wrestling are just dudes jumping around and pretending to fight.

Do you retards think pro wrestlers don't understand at least the very basic of standard wrestling?

They don't as pro wrestling has literally nothing in common with actual wrestling

>wrestling thread
>no mention of the baddest motherfucker around

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Minimizing damage while putting on a good show is the end goal, yes.
Real damage does build up gradually, especially in more extreme promotion. I still think Mick Foley has actual brain damage

there isn't a pro-wrestler over the age of 40 that hasn't had hip and or neck problems

Probably. You don't get choke slammed through a cage that gives way and fall down to the ring and walk away unscathed

Hulk Hogan lost like 3 inches due to incremental spine damage

People give the wwe shit for it's safe style but the work schedule gives little to no chance for recuperating. So relatively safer moves accumulate more damage with time.

back in the Hogan days the road schedule was murder, by the end of tours guys wouldn't even take back bumps anymore their bodies were so beat up

Antonio Inoki invented MMA bro. He was also big on shootfighting and a lot of NJPW guys like Yuji Nagata, Minoru Suzuki, Katsuyori Shibata, Shinsuke Nakamura, etc. had some kind of legit fighting background or training. The problem was that because they were wrestlers they couldn't train in MMA full time so when Inoki, being obsessed with shoot fighting, would send them off to PRIDE and such they'd get destroyed which ruined their image then he'd depush/punish them.

Also pro wrestlers back in the early and middle 20th century were the big fighters of their day. It was still predetermined but wrestlers were expted to have legitimate grappling experience and be able to hold their own in an actual contest being called hookers since because of their knowledge of holds and grappling (or "hooks"). The champions were generally expected to be actual hookers so a.) the illusion of matches being real could be maintained and b.) to be able to deal with things if they did turn into a shoot.

You still kind of see this a lot in Japanese wrestling. Even joshi wrestling has it to an extent. TJPW is regarded as an idol wrestling promotion but their ace, Miyu Yamashita, comes from a kyokushin and I think kickboxing background and one of their former main eventers, Yuu, was a national level judoka before she got into wrestling. Not to mention Shinobu Kandori who was a bronze medalist judoka and probably would've been an Olympian if hadn't lost her passion for judo.

Hager was also a legit All-American collegiate wrestler and has a size advantage over most anyone he's up against. JR and Gerald Brisco being old school guys is why WWE tended to have so many high level collegiate wrestlers: guys like Hager, Bork, Shelton Benjamin, Chad Gable, etc.

All a part of keyfabe my dude.

>Antonio Inoki invented MMA bro
Technically its tared before that but even Rikidozan had sumo background

There's a reason why painkiller addiction is a thing for wrestlers

Deathmatch wrestling is really popular in Japan. FMW was huge back in the 90s and was the direct inspiration for ECW's shift from the NWA affiliated Eastern Championship Wrestling to Extreme Championship Wrestling. Big Japan Pro Wrestling was at one point one of the biggest promotions in Japan the last decade (they've fallen off since) and their bread and butter is deathmatch wrestling. Pro Wrestling FREEDOMS, run by wrestler Jun Kasai, is the big deathmatch promotion in Japan right now.

Interesting note about that too: a large portion of the fans that are into deathmatch wrestling are women. They absolutely love it. There's female wrestlers (like Noa Hikari from TJPW or Risa Sera from Ice Ribbon) who got into wrestling because they loved deathmatch stuff. There's idols who are really into deathmatch wrestling. Women go nuts for it.

Imagine falling onto plywood and concrete for a living for 10-20 years of your life. There's a reason a lot of wrestlers develop pain pill addictions The wear and tear can be brutal, especially if you're working more dangerous styles like 90s AJPW and joshi style stuff. Infamously Plum Mariko died after taking a normal bump in 1997 because her head was all fucked up from concussions, she got a brain aneurysm and died in the hospital a few hours later. Misawa died taking a head drop in the middle of a match because of the 15+ years of head drops he'd been taking. WWE wrestler Tyson Kidd nearly died taking a move. He got basically the same injury Christopher Reeve did and the only reason he didn't end up either dead or paralyzed was because he had a strong neck due to shit like neck bridges.

Japanese wrestling is kino.

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Cosmo triangled Adam Dudley unconscious, what are you talking about retard?

Cosmo is a fag

>big bad hockey enforcer choked the fuck out by a long haired twink
Buttscooters win again.

>Interesting note about that too: a large portion of the fans that are into deathmatch wrestling are women. They absolutely love it. There's female wrestlers (like Noa Hikari from TJPW or Risa Sera from Ice Ribbon) who got into wrestling because they loved deathmatch stuff. There's idols who are really into deathmatch wrestling. Women go nuts for it.

Care to develop/explain a bit more ?

Onita's entrance during his match against Chono is pretty much mega kino.
youtube.com/watch?v=y0a1N207RIg