Gundam

So ultimately, who is more at fault? The Federation or those genociding spacenoid shit Zekes?

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What did the Federation do wrong again?

Both. Human souls either weighed down by or not getting enough gravity.

Granted Side 3 independence, then tried to choke it to death through economic blockade, while simultaneously shipping hordes of unwanted masses to the other Sides so that Zeon wouldn't want to have anything to do with millions of useless, unskilled population. No matter how you slice it, the Federation was like the ultimate example of toxic, passive-aggressive parenting right up until Zeon kicked them in the balls at Loum and dropped that fucking colony.

>Grant us independence!
>K, but you'll lose all the shit we give you.
>We don't care, we want to be free!
>Fine, suit yourself
>Wah! y u no gib us stuffs? We kill you!

Zeke logic, folks.

I really don't know much about Gundam.

Literally nothing.

Zeon never had a chance

The explosions are cool.

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>200gb of gundam on a drive
>watched like one series
this is me right now

Which one

Originally it was the Zekes but they had all the cool MS which turned kids into Zeke fanboys who slowly pushed their fanboyism until gaining ultimate vindication when one of them wrote Unicorn and got to canonize their ZEON DINDU NUFFIN DEY WAS DA GOOD GUYS shit.

At first it was Zeon and the Zabi family manipulating stuff from behind the scenes but then Unicorn made it to where basically both sides got fucked because of some stupid plaque.

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At the beginning of the Universal Century, they forcibly emigrated like 90% of humanity to space and enacted a system of government where Spacenoids had no say in how they were governed. That being said, this doesn't justify what Zeon ends up doing.
>declare war on the Federation with the claim that you're going to liberate Spacenoids from tyranny
>expect the other colony clusters to join you
>they don't
>proceed to preemptively attack these other colony clusters with nuclear weapons and nerve gas because you're afraid they will throw their lot in with the Federation
>Zeon kills billions of other Spacenoids while still unironically claiming that they're fighting for the liberation of Spacenoids

Also, relevant image

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>At the beginning of the Universal Century, they forcibly emigrated like 90% of humanity to space and enacted a system of government where Spacenoids had no say in how they were governed.
One day I hope Unicorn is just declared non-canon. That entire retcon, despite what people try claim, pretty much is just pure Zeon DId Nothing Wrongism.

It's pretty ridiculous that Zeon apologists exist.

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>I never watched the series copypasta
Pure Feddiewank: the post.

I've watched the series and that post is accurate. How is it wank when it admits that the Federation fucked up and almost when dealing with Zeon?

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too bad zeon didnt stay in that ditch for long because fuck accepting losses.

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>Zeon gassed civillians and dropped colonies on Earth
>this is somehow 'Feddiewank'

What?

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Reminder that the most well designed suit of the series is literally cannon fodder

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Zeon is completely to blame for the war, but at the same time
Zeek women>>>earth women

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Zakus are cooler so I've gotta give it to Zeon here.

That said, they sure seemed to commit a whole lot more genocide. Didn't the colony drop kill like, literally half of all life on earth?

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too bad most are unstable. But are you suggesting e send women to space?

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The Federation forced Zeon's hand

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How can one man be so based

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BASED

It didnt kill all life on earth but it did destroy a huge chunk of Australia and caused some changes to its environment. Also apparently it was supposed to hit another target but missed similar the same in gundam 0083.

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>people talking about colony drops on australia like its a bad thing

Not all life, but like, a shitload of it.

The biggest chunk hit Australia but the rest of the debris spread all over the world. There were mass casualties everywhere, but australia got the worst of it.

Hug your Captain Zaku plushie tight as you cry into it Zekeoid.

Yeah its why zeon kept using teh side colonies to fuck up earth. Their first targets were supposed to hit another area in america where it would have affected not only earth but the food supply. The other target I recall was one of the stations that belonged to the federation.

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Indeed, their souls were weighed down by gravity and outdated age of consent laws

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>Kamille-Dog
Isn't that a girl dog's name?

Fuck you jerid-dog

If we could send all politicians to space they may see the error of their ways in outlawing love making between 30 year old men and fresh, young, barely pubescent girls.

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You do realize that there was a 30 year period between when Side 3 declared independence from the Federation and when the OYW broke out.
There's also the fact that the Federation put a full embargo on Side 3 instead of trying to work with them because they Federation wanted Side 3 to implode or the year 60 Armament Reinforcement Plan which was the Federation unilaterally building up their military forces to saber rattle.
So let's not create bullshit that that Side 3 destroyed the Federation allied Sides instantly. They had 30 years to switch sides.

Who would you support in the neo zeon civil war?
Haman:
>will allow you to die in her name
Glemy:
>will provide you with a puru-wife

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The Argama so I can get an Elle wife.

That manga was such a feddie wank.
And they even made a what if? That was even a bigger feddie wank.

I know he becomes Kamille's absolute bitch for the rest of the series, but this might be the greatest introduction for an antagonist

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Based g05 winning wars

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How did such a bitch pussy faggot wind up landing the best girl in the entire series?

too bad their final confrontation is kamille just fodderizing him without even a thought.

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He also had this qt lusting after him too

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08th ms

I wish Haman would sit on my face.

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just lay face down on a hardwood floor for the same effect.

This is the average intelligence of a zeek. Fear the zeek menace.

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Char's Counter-Attack wouldn't have happened if Judau just banged her.

Oh look another Zeon dindu nuffin post.

I'd rather have Chara. She's way more sexually engaging than Haman

Is there a more useless fucking suit than the Guntank?

The only times I can remember it featuring included either having to leave battles early so Ryu wouldn't fucking die (079), or when 3 (THREE) of the useless things got slaughtered by Norris in 8th MS Team

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It is pretty stupid but I think it's cool that they still include it in different Gundam media.

This version of it is useless and in ms the whole team was being dumb attacking norris rather than defending the tanks. In igloo that version of the guntank is shown to be more reliable for combat, more mobile than the standard, faster and able to take on mobile suits far and up close.

>More Feddie propaganda
The thing he's holding was a bomb to blow up a munitions supply and kill a bunch of the invading feddies.

>zeek defense force
Thank the feds were able to get the other bomber group before they unleashed such barbarity

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Those things were a pain in the ass in Zeonic Front. Fuckers kept one shotting me.

And they surrendered, only to be murdered by the Feddies, because war crimes are all they know.
Did you also forget the GMs targeting the escape pods too?

Neither side was good, because they were controlled by adults that lacked UNDERSTANDING.

CCA is pretty much about how Char became a cynical adult and lost his understanding. While Amuro still had his and had faith in Humanity overcoming their lack of understanding.

>not complaining about that one mission of the guncannons while also defending your base while also trying to get data/capture the fed mobile base.
I remember....i remember

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Didn't make all Colony men infertile and make all Colony women be the wives to Chad Earth cock.

>lost his understanding
No bro he literally had too much. Lalah said he was pure and shit. The theme is that they both can't go forward because of their past and some stuff. He wanted to lose and make Amuro kill him