Does a 10/10 even exist? What does a masterpiece must have? Are there anime or manga that reach that kind of perfection?

Does a 10/10 even exist? What does a masterpiece must have? Are there anime or manga that reach that kind of perfection?

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You'd have to define what 10/10 means first. And that's going to vary from person to person. And anything that anyone considers a 10/10 is going to also have people that hate it.

character development is a huge plus for me.
if characters are static, you better have an interesting world to explore

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Justify 10/10 meaning something other than, "In the top 10%".

How many 10/10 do people have? I just cuonted them out and I'm at 29.
I know the definition of what a 10/10 is subjective as fuck and changes from person to person but either way I'm still curious what the average is.

I tend to lean more towards short stories like Emanon, or movies/OVAs in regards to anime, when I think of 10's.

Any series that's long and sprawling like Berserk, Alita, Nausicaa, Akira, or shonen shit is going to have highs and lows in it. Doesn't matter how passionate I am for the series, there's going to be parts where I'm less interested. It's just easier to tell a consistent story in a single volume, even if it can't feel as grand as those long running contemporaries.

It's like the Portal 1 vs Portal 2 argument if you were going to compare this to videogames.

To me, a 9/10 means something is absolutely spectacular. A cut above almost everything else. 10/10 is something that is special to you, and ends up being almost completely subjective since you're basically ignoring any flaws or shortcomings it may have.

I have one and its just due to nostalgia, if i was completely objective i would put it lower

Honestly, I put 10/10 when I feel the whole ride got me into any kind of strong emotional feeling after I had just finished it, the same series would probably get a lower rating if I reread it.Shit varies between each person, etc2 but I think most of my 10/10 are short to medium-ish length series.

I don’t typically consider manga on par with literature. I’m not saying that in a snobbish way. I read classics - Tolstoy, Gabriel Garcia Marquez, James Joyce, Tennyson, Rilke, Goethe, William Gaddis, Julio Cortazar, Ford Madox Ford.

But I put my HxH volumes on the same level as them. Proudly. There’s a feeling that resonates deeply with me - that the storming of the palace onward is capital-A ART. That the series’ main focus is to render humanity and nothing more or less. The way all the extremes of human nature are displayed in the Chimera Ant arc feels like reading a sort of contemporary Odyssey. It is epic in the original sense of the word -- something majestic that shines light on the nature of living.

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I have 3.

Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu
The End of Evangelion
Yojouhan Shinwa Taikei

3 manga, 7 anime

It's the opposite for me. I think a lot of short OVAs or one volume manga don't really have enough time to develop much of anything, so they end up seeming more like just passing interesting things than anything I really latch onto. Every once in a while I will come across something short that I think is great but usually it doesn't end up being the case. It's even worse with one shot manga where even if I think it's really good it just makes me wonder if it's really possible to compare to something great that lasts 10+ volumes. Movies tend to have it better than short OVAs or single volume manga for me.

This

>Does a 10/10 even exist?
Certainly
>What does a masterpiece must have?
Unironically Kino
>Are there anime or manga that reach that kind of perfection?
Fire Punch

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>refuse to use 10 because "nothing is perfect"
>don't rate anything less than 7 because "I'd have dropped it"
Why bother rating out of 10? This shit is retarded.

Honestly, something that I think is a 10/10 can have much lower rating for someone else and vice versa. Everyone's taste is different

It's only retarded if you have retarded limitations like you're putting on yourself. With that being said, I don't think I've rated anything less than a 4. Better than your limiting but still limiting.

Animes/mangas in general are 7/10 entertainment mediums. They start with a banger but end in an unsatisfying way. A prime example is berserk. Amazing start and just when you think shit is about to go crazy after the eclipse it turns into mediocre fantasy bs.

>What does a masterpiece must have?

Must have a lot of things but I thing it needs and what most manga or anime dont have is a good and satisfying ending.

I have downgraded so many potential 10/10 because they didnt stick the ending right or its open end because it got axed.

At the end of the day, arguments are the most important thing to qualify art. Rating is just for fun and to better administrate where does your favorite piece of work should be.

>Animes/mangas
unironically stopped reading here
lurk for at least 2 more years

They're not my limitations, they're ones I see plenty of people implicitly using.
I don't rate things at all because it's pointless.

Ive never had problems with rating out of XXX
You must have some sort of autism to not understand the "10" in 10 doesn't refer to inhumane perfection or 9/10 being 90% there towards perfection.

Who cares what other people do with their ratings? You also have people rating things 1s after watching one episode. Or not watching it at all and just rating it in reaction to other people liking it.

>Alita Reddit Angel
>masterpiece
FUCK OFF

I don't get why so many people get angry at numbers. It's just a subjective scale.

The whole thread is about asking how other people rate things. I don't care what the ratings are - the only place I'm likely to find out for anime is MAL, and caring about those ratings would be stupid even if I wasn't questioning the whole premise of the thing.

10/10 is basically anything you would put in top 10%. It doesn't have to be perfect - just better than 90%.

Yas Forums aka a board for anime or mangas.
Lurking since 2009 unlike you newbie who prolly joined not more than 3 years ago.

Was Hunter x Hunter ever finished? I know the artist has been in and out of hospitalization throughout his life.

There hasn't been a new chapter in over a year.

Not that I know. And I prefer that it will never be finished. Every time it gets worse.

Berserk

Thank you to everyone who posted on my thread. I made the same thread on multiple boards and the mayority of replies weren't even on-topic. I really apreciate all of you for caring enough to give me your opinion.

no problem fren
hope you got some good recs

A 10 is everything that FEELS BEST a not 10 is everything that NOT FEELS BEST
I don't bother with layman's terms like story/character development/art. That shit is turbo gay, if its a 10 you feel it in your heart. and if you don't you're a faggot

I just finished the Golden Age arc but, Berserk.

A 10/10 is whatever you think is a 10/10, everything is subjective, doesn't matter how much it hurts you

You don't even know what you were called out for and type like a 14 year old, you're fresh off the boat. Lurk moar.

The only manga to (almost) reach the 10/10 imho is Murasakiiro no Qualia

>Does a 10/10 even exist?
Probably.
>What does a masterpiece must have?
It has to move you emotionally in any way. Get you hyped, crying, anything like that. But it's only my metric. And as a lot of replies here already said: it's all subjective. What is great for one person is awful for another.
>Are there anime or manga that reach that kind of perfection?
The one that gets closer to that in my opinion is Rurouni Kenshin: Tsuioku-hen

>What does a masterpiece must have?
tragedy tag

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Blame! is pure unadultered kino

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>Joyce
You fell for the meme

>Does a 10/10 even exist?
yes
>What does a masterpiece must have?
a cute wife
>Are there anime or manga that reach that kind of perfection?
let me show you

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This but unironically. I really don't like the word kino but Fire Punch is one of the few things I can actually call kino. Sure, the art isn't the best sometimes. Yeah, things are a jumble towards the end. Characters are killed off too quickly and without any reason and plot points vanish and reappear without warning. But what makes it kino is the amount of care and love put into it. Not to mention, the overarching message and the characters who are actually 3D and well-developed. It incorporates so many styles and genres into itself and it can display it in a cohesive manner without being too much. In short, it's kino.

My 10/10 is Sanctuary, it excels in every aspect of manga which I think is important (art, plot, characters and pacing). I can see why some people might disagree on some levels but it is at least a very top tier manga.

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This is the correct answer

For me, it's Umineko

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Spirit Circle was pretty good.

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>What does a masterpiece must have
It first and foremost must be exceptional on some technical level. Whether it be storytelling, design, or art quality, unless it is already a cut above dime a dozen copypasted template works, it won't be a 10/10. With that out of the way, it's important for the work to be a comprehensive experience. There were countless great shows, novels, books as well as anime and manga that were sabotaged by their own makers in the end because a comprehensive experience was denied - the ending was unsatisfying and not because it didn't give the audience what it wanted, because that's just idiocy, but because it was not a proper ending in the real definition of that word - things didn't end, loose ends weren't tied, many questions that must have been answered, since a work can have many questions that don't need to be answered, weren't answered. It must be good enough to make you mistake objective for subjective and subjective for objective and skirt the line between, retaining excellence. There really is only a dozen of such works and despite that they also tend to be deeply flawed in some way, mostly due to the circumstances of their creation, so in reality, just like many anons have said, 10/10 in the end is still up to the viewer and reader himself. There's a whole lot of 9/10 works though, but a 9/10 for one is a 10/10 of another because of what I've described above.

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Mousou Dairinin is 10/10. Kaguya-hime and VEG are 9.5/10, etc.

Fucking this. I hate shit where lots of stuff happens but then it changes literally nothing and may be considered as a filler. Character neither learns something from it nor he even mentions what happened there in some form.
Entire arcs of this shit.

And my issue is that those "fillers" are often main part of the story that shouldn't be considered fillers in first place (aka fill the gap between the manga and anime)

Please explain to me why you thing VEG is a 9.5/10

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Pluto

Isn't that just a way of saying that you're not prepared to defend why you feel a show is 10/10? There's not really a point in giving a show a rating out of 10 if you don't have anything to say about it beyond "I liked it" or "I didn't like it."

Pic. related might be 8-9/10 average but its definitely a 10/10 for me.

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Ironically enough I lack the skills required to fully express my thoughts and feelings regarding a show that's partly about not knowing how to express one's thoughts and feelings.
Let's just say it does almost everything right, be it production wise, be it execution wise.

Not him but that potato nigger made it lose half a point.

>nosedick
>10/10

That's the difference between 10/10 and anything lower. You can analyze 8/10, you can analyze 9/10, but with 10/10 you just feel it. It's something that can't be put in words and most often subjective whatsoever, so the others wouldn't have a use for it even if you'd tell them.

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