How the FUCK did he lose?

Death Note ended so badly just because of the author's bias, I'm not even sure about giving Hikaru no Go a try if this is what kind of shitty writer Ohba is.

Light's defeat was no effort.

L's defeat was much worse. Light's whole plan was "please Misa act retarded so your deus ex machina can kill L for me, thanks".

Copying the notebook was retarded and it hinged entirely on Mikami acting on his own. Author didn't even try making a good trick.

>Copying the notebook was retarded
They didn't need a perfect copy.
Mikami was being manipulated by the real notebook. Even a blank piece of paper would've been enough.

>it hinged entirely on Mikami acting on his own
Mikami acting on his own was understandable. Light being able to kill Takada hinged on Light's teammates being retarded and leaving him unmonitored ONCE AGAIN DESPITE HIM BEING HEAVILY SUSPECTED. If he wasn't unmonitored, then Mikami acting on his own would've been a great move.

>Still can't accept Light lost fair and square

Because of the asspulls in the second half of the manga.

Part 1 has the most asspulls. It's sad how many stupid teenagers love part 1 because they self-insert in Light making plans from his room and don't notice how dumb the entire thing is.

Death Note has trash writing, and it didn't start at part 2.

>Part 1 has the most asspulls
what asspulls?

The early volumes are silly, but the actual asspulls don't happen until keikaku. The first three or so volumes of Death Note are great, but once Light loses his memory it's all downhill.

>Light goes out of his way to go from "Kira could be anyone in those huge cities" to "Kira is definitely that one guy." in the first 5 chapters of the series, but then nobody arrests him in order to test it, which they absolutely would. Instead they go through hoops to put cameras and stuff.
>When Misa gets arrested, L lets Light fuck off for a day or more despite being sure Light is Kira, just so Light could do all the preparations he needed for his memory loss plan, and then acts surprised when Light has a plan. If L arrested Light here and there, the story would be over
>L gives the Death Note to Light in the heli and doesn't watch him/doesn't have cameras, despite being chained up to him
>L lets Misa go away after the Kira they caught was killed. Unmonitored.
>Everyone seems to forget about Misa/Light being incredibly suspect right after L dies
>L shows his face to the number 1 suspect for no reason except hahaaaa i'll spook him
>A devoted gf with shinigami eyes shows up right after Light meets L and understands he can't do shit to him because he doesn't have a name
>said devoted gf has a literal god ready to kill and die for her
>said god immediately tries to kill L and not Light, despite having no guarantees everyone else from the squad will stop suspecting Misa, or that Light won't kill her

Because he wanted to get caught.

Or more accurately, he wanted someone to find out it was him that was Kira, and then defeat that person.

He couldn't stand the idea of being an anonymous god... He wanted recognition from his efforts. Subconsciously he let L figure him out and then he defeated L.

Then he let the same thing happen with Near but he got too cocky and lost.

The only reason he even lost was because of Mikami. People saying he lost because of hubris are full of shit. It was his incompetent followers that fucked him over every single time (Misa, Mikami, etc.)

>Light goes out of his way to go from "Kira could be anyone in those huge cities" to "Kira is definitely that one guy." in the first 5 chapters of the series, but then nobody arrests him in order to test it, which they absolutely would. Instead they go through hoops to put cameras and stuff.
>When Misa gets arrested, L lets Light fuck off for a day or more despite being sure Light is Kira, just so Light could do all the preparations he needed for his memory loss plan, and then acts surprised when Light has a plan. If L arrested Light here and there, the story would be over
L didn't have an evidence and he was struggling to gather anything concrete. Additionally Light's father was pushing back against L in order to protect his son.
>L gives the Death Note to Light in the heli and doesn't watch him/doesn't have cameras, despite being chained up to him
>L lets Misa go away after the Kira they caught was killed. Unmonitored.
>Everyone seems to forget about Misa/Light being incredibly suspect right after L dies
At these points both were more or less cleared of suspicion.
>L shows his face to the number 1 suspect for no reason except hahaaaa i'll spook him
Because L was risking his own life in the chance that his death could prove who Kira was. He also laid a trap for Light through his fakename. His death would have been a victory for him.
>A devoted gf with shinigami eyes shows up right after Light meets L and understands he can't do shit to him because he doesn't have a name
Not an asspull.
>said devoted gf has a literal god ready to kill and die for her
>said god immediately tries to kill L and not Light, despite having no guarantees everyone else from the squad will stop suspecting Misa, or that Light won't kill her
Because killing Light would have hurt Misa, while killing L at that point only would have helped her. And it did. Losing L was made Misa's life far easier.

He fucked up in episode 2 and it was all downhill from there

Hubris: The Anime

There's still no proof it was used on Mikami.

>unmonitored
Light stealthily used his watch in the backseat like he should have fucking done to at least kill Near.

I didn't even want the faggot to win by the end, just something fucking good and crazy to beat him.

>L didn't have an evidence and he was struggling to gather anything concrete. Additionally Light's father was pushing back against L in order to protect his son.
"muh evidence" is a really dumb reason. Arresting Light would've been enough to prove his innocence, or his guilt. It's a far better idea than going to try to spook Light or whatever.

>At these points both were more or less cleared of suspicion.
No they weren't. L stated he still suspected them. Misa was being suspected because the murders restarted RIGHT AFTER SHE WAS FREED. Not to mention, Misa was 100% proven to have been Kira previously and even talked to a fucking Shinigami on camera.

>Not an asspull.
It's definitely convenient.

>Because killing Light would have hurt Misa, while killing L at that point only would have helped her. And it did. Losing L was made Misa's life far easier.
This still means her fate is on the line and Light can kill her anytime. Which is worse than her being sad over Light.

I could go on, like, how Naomi Misora shows Light her ID before even meeting someone else from the team and before talking to the police chief.

Extreme unnecessary use of greentexts.

>Light goes out of his way to go from "Kira could be anyone in those huge cities" to "Kira is definitely that one guy." in the first 5 chapters of the series, but then nobody arrests him in order to test it, which they absolutely would. Instead they go through hoops to put cameras and stuff.
L himself said that he wasn't 100% sure that Light was Kira. You can't just arrest people without any proof yet. Yes the gap went to only 1 person being Kira but that still wasn't enough to make sure that person was Light

>When Misa gets arrested, L lets Light fuck off for a day or more despite being sure Light is Kira, just so Light could do all the preparations he needed for his memory loss plan, and then acts surprised when Light has a plan. If L arrested Light here and there, the story would be over
What did you want him to do? Arrest Light? He was already under the police's watch. Keep in mind that no one had the idea the the shinigami existed. You talk as if it was easy because you are a viewer and of course you would make the better options because you know everything that's going on. Don't be retarded.

>L gives the Death Note to Light in the heli and doesn't watch him/doesn't have cameras, despite being chained up to him
Light touched the Death Note himself.

>L lets Misa go away after the Kira they caught was killed. Unmonitored.
Again she was still under the police's watch

>Everyone seems to forget about Misa/Light being incredibly suspect right after L dies
True, but have you forgotten that they all believed in the 13 days rule of using the Death Note?

>L shows his face to the number 1 suspect for no reason except hahaaaa i'll spook him
He had to get closer the the suspect to get more information from him. Do you even know how investigations work? Also most of the stuff he did was to see how Light reacted to his moves.

Asuka (Misa) or Rei (Takada)?

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>There's still no proof it was used on Mikami.
It's implied very strongly.

>Light stealthily used his watch in the backseat like he should have fucking done to at least kill Near.
Light being able to use it in the backseat is fucking retarded. EVERYONE SUSPECTS HIM. Why the fuck are you letting this faggot alone?

>A devoted gf with shinigami eyes shows up right after Light meets L and understands he can't do shit to him because he doesn't have a name
>>said devoted gf has a literal god ready to kill and die for her
>>said god immediately tries to kill L and not Light, despite having no guarantees everyone else from the squad will stop suspecting Misa, or that Light won't kill her
How exactly is this an asspull?

It was luck coupled with him having every advantage possible, most of which were literally supernatural bullshit that no one could realistically even grasp at, and L was gimped by his allies being dead weight that actively dragged him down and prevented him from advancing his investigation.

>hurp durp power corrupts
I think he was a sociopath from the start, just needed to realize it

>Light blinks his eyes
>"ASSPULL!!!"
Some people need to stop calling everything an asspull

>"muh evidence" is a really dumb reason. Arresting Light would've been enough to prove his innocence, or his guilt. It's a far better idea than going to try to spook Light or whatever.
Now I know that you're a kid. You can't go arrest people without any evidence you dumbfuck.

>No they weren't. L stated he still suspected them. Misa was being suspected because the murders restarted RIGHT AFTER SHE WAS FREED. Not to mention, Misa was 100% proven to have been Kira previously and even talked to a fucking Shinigami on camera.
No she wasn't read the chapters again

>It's definitely convenient.
convenient =/= asspull. I bet you don't even know what the term asspull is do you?

>This still means her fate is on the line and Light can kill her anytime. Which is worse than her being sad over Light.
Okay, but killing L wouldn't save Misa. Rem killing Watari and L increased Misa's lifespan

>I could go on, like, how Naomi Misora shows Light her ID before even meeting someone else from the team and before talking to the police chief.
She was tricked. You still don't know what asspull is.

Literally because Near had a sixth sense in targeting Mikami.

At least you can see that. This motherfcuker Thinks that everyone in the show knew about the existence of the shinigami

>You can't just arrest people without any proof
You absolutely can, that's 100% what would happen in a real life Kira investigation if they could narrow it down to ONE person.
But that's not the worse, the worse is that they never try more stuff with the cameras. What was Light supposed to do if they kept going with it? Buy small TVs and chips everyday?

>What did you want him to do? Arrest Light? He was already under the police's watch
YES. They arrested the gf for being Kira, and they have solid proofs. Why the fuck would you not arrest him? Kira has supernatural means, you'd definitely not let Light make preparations while his gf is being arrested. Literally anyone with a brain would arrest Light as soon as Misa.

>Light touched the Death Note himself.
L doesn't take it back and lets him write "stealthily". No cameras.

>Again she was still under the police's watch
Not at all, or they'd have seen her taking back the Death Note from that forest. They didn't even bother tailing her. It's fucking retarded. She was 100% proven to be Kira.

>True, but have you forgotten that they all believed in the 13 days rule of using the Death Note?
L told them the rule was bullshit. Literally everyone forgot.

>He had to get closer the the suspect to get more information from him
There's no information he could get from him, at all. That's no investigation, that's a retarded "i'll spook him and see how he reacts" plan. It's extremely convoluted and doesn't serve a real purpose except wanking "now you're 4% suspect!" statement

By the time Light was a reasonable suspect it was already established he could freely control the timing of deaths.

>Light being able to use it in the backseat is fucking retarded. EVERYONE SUSPECTS HIM. Why the fuck are you letting this faggot alone?
Dude Light himself said that they were stupid for going in the front sit. Did you even watch the show properly?

>You can't go arrest people without any evidence you dumbfuck
You absolutely could, with bogus charges. Detaining Light for a few days would absolutely be possible for L and he'd get the proof he needed. End of the story. It'd be a lot easier in an investigation like Kira.

>No she wasn't read the chapters again
They had solid proofs she was Kira. That's why they were so brutal with her, they had 0 doubts left. Misa was Kira, this was established.

>She was tricked. You still don't know what asspull is.
For a lot of these, "bad writing" applies more than asspull, but you get my point.

He couldn't find new victims to kill.

Just because a character points out how stupid other characters are doesn't make it less stupid. They suddenly caught the idiot ball, despite some of them having been competent (and suspecting him) before.

They only did it so Mikami taking action would seem rash and not necessary.

>You absolutely can, that's 100% what would happen in a real life Kira investigation if they could narrow it down to ONE person.
>But that's not the worse, the worse is that they never try more stuff with the cameras. What was Light supposed to do if they kept going with it? Buy small TVs and chips everyday?
Did you forget that Ryuk let Light know of the camera's existence? No they can't. You've been so focused on anime and shit that you barely know how the real life works

>YES. They arrested the gf for being Kira, and they have solid proofs. Why the fuck would you not arrest him? Kira has supernatural means, you'd definitely not let Light make preparations while his gf is being arrested. Literally anyone with a brain would arrest Light as soon as Misa.
What part of they didn't have evidence to arrest Light didn't you understand?

>L doesn't take it back and lets him write "stealthily". No cameras.
Dude he got the memories as soon as he touched the Death Note. And why would there be cameras there? They didn't know how Kira kills people.

>Not at all, or they'd have seen her taking back the Death Note from that forest. They didn't even bother tailing her. It's fucking retarded. She was 100% proven to be Kira.
No she wasn't. Even if they tailed her Rem would've told her that.

>L told them the rule was bullshit. Literally everyone forgot.
He suspected the rule being false. He didn't say the rule was false. That was literally the point of that fake rule

>There's no information he could get from him, at all. That's no investigation, that's a retarded "i'll spook him and see how he reacts" plan. It's extremely convoluted and doesn't serve a real purpose except wanking "now you're 4% suspect!" statement
Watching with cameras and tailing him wasn't making any progress. The best way to know more was to get closer to him.

Wait really?
Was it only three episodes?
Fucking loser how did this even get popular

>They had solid proofs she was Kira. That's why they were so brutal with her, they had 0 doubts left. Misa was Kira, this was established.
Yeah but then the killings started again. L was closer to confirm his suspections of them being Kira until the death's started again.

>Just because a character points out how stupid other characters are doesn't make it less stupid. They suddenly caught the idiot ball, despite some of them having been competent (and suspecting him) before.
The whole show implies that the team wasn't that bright. The only smart guy was Light's father but his love for his son made him blind.

You see, your opinions on how these situations could be avoided are the problem. Only Kira knows the existence of the supernatural. You have no idea of what the word Asspull mean. And you haven't realised that what've said to avoid those situations are in fact the asspull.

He started monologuing when chibi L accused him of being Kira in the warehouse and got shot because he admitted he was the big evil guy all along.

He also allowed the deathnote to be discovered and its rule become known. If he had simply hidden it well enough, no one would ever have had proof he killed anyone even if they were 100% sure it was him.

He also got involved with the investigation, instead of waiting it out, having them move on, and murdering every last one of them at arbitrary points in time later on. They all contributed to his downfall by helping tweedle A and tweedle B.

He also didn't use the deathnote properly, it can seemingly make anyone do anything prior to their death. You could turn anyone into a suicide bomber by having them die that way in the location and time you desire. You could hold the entire world hostage and force governments and powerful individuals to work against the people after you because their boss is world famous and is one 2 second pen scribble away from been very dead. Imagine 10 billionaires coming after you.

The second he killed off L, he should have gone full supervillain on anyone who attempted to investigate him. Like waves of murderous thralls murder-suiciding the investigators, fucking guys hijacking helicopters and flying them into buildings as well. For someone attempting to play god, he sure was shy about using his godlike power, preferring to spend time playing house.

Probably not conducive to the whole "game of wits" thing where everyone sits around thinking real hard and and drinking tea. Hard to be a cool investigator when your buildings keep getting bombed.

This isn't a Lelouch thing where he is really moral deep down, he was an unrepentant murderer through and through and had no problem murdering anyone, so there was nothing stopping him from basically nuking people. Evil people stay in power because anyone who threatens them is killed, and he let basically everyone corner and pin him.

>Did you forget that Ryuk let Light know of the camera's existence
Knowing didn't let him avoid them easily. He'd still have to buy TVs and shit.

>What part of they didn't have evidence to arrest Light didn't you understand?
They were still going to arrest him, by L's words. Not arresting him on the spot but wanting to arrest him the day after was retarded no matter how you spin it.

>Dude he got the memories as soon as he touched the Death Note
He had to kill higuchi to keep them.
>And why would there be cameras there?
Helis usually have cameras. L had camera everywhere except his heli, despite riding it with the suspect number one?

>No she wasn't. Even if they tailed her Rem would've told her that.
She was 100% proven to be Kira. They had about 20 different proofs thanks to the tapes and everything else. They could also notice how things changed right after her arrest, including the memory loss. This CANNOT be explained without her being Kira.

>He suspected the rule being false. He didn't say the rule was false.
He said he suspected it and would test it. That's why Rem killed him. And yet right after that everyone forgets about testing the rule, of the people he suspected, and the rest.

>Watching with cameras and tailing him wasn't making any progress
Neither was spooking him. Cameras were objectively their best bet.

Actually, let me rephrase it.

Cameras were by far their best bet, but they suddenly, arbitrarily decided to drop them because "they didn't yield any result in 5 days", with the true reason being that it'd fuck Light if they kept at it.

>The only smart guy was Light's father
Lolno, he kept rambling "MUH SOOON" despite having solid reasons to suspect him. The guy kept bringing his emotions to the case. He was a bad cop.

Not actually three episodes, that happens later, but L identifies Kira is in Japan, Kanto, pretty soon he narrowed it down to less than 40 million of suspects excluding kids and elderly people.

He was a brainlet

Pride and Arrogance, he made his first major fuckup very early on by rising to L's bait and killing the tv guy, allowing L to know what town he was in because he got butthurt over being called out, such arrogance was always going to be his downfall one way or another.

Can you stop making these threads?

Let's be honest, if it was real life Kira would've been killed by some government agency just a while after becoming one of the main suspects. No proof needed, no judge, he would get "murdered in an assault" or suicided. Governments couldn't give less fucks about what's lawful or not. Even if he didn't get killed, the broken justice system would serve for once to keep him in jail forever without much defense.

Yeah. Gov would have probably killed the suspects followed by the 12 FBI agents in subtle ways.

Lidner

why Is Light always compared to Lelouch? His reasons for killing all those criminals were always shallow and never been justified. He's just a maniac compared to Lelouch
Well, to be honest, never had a crippled sister as a reason

Am I retarded or did we have this same thread last night with literally the same picture

Light's sis became a cripple because of him though. Can't remember if it's temporary, but we see her on a wheelchair.

Yeah.

Japan has one of the most unfair and corrupt justice systems in the world. Just glad that based Ghosn is safe and free

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How did Light get caught? How could they possibly narrow down someone from just people dying via heart attack

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