Macross

do i need to watch macross from the beginning or are they all stand alone shows?

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They're standalone but if you watch them out of order you aren't going to understand many things about the world, factions and characters. Watch the original (SDF Macross) first and foremost; then it's up to you.
Macross: DYRL is a movie version of the original show; it's a really good, iconic movie but I don't recommend watching it without watching the original show.

Macross Plus is very different from the rest of the franchise so if you watch it first you're going to have the wrong impression about the franchise.

Pretty much every part of the franchise is stand alone, but I would say yes, it's better to watch from the beginning, and as far as shows go — SDFM is the best one anyway, so might as well watch it first.

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You don't NEED to but I'd highly recommend it. You'll miss a ton of shit if you don't.

By the way, 7 is the best one.

Do I really need to watch the post 27 episodes? Episode 26/27 was such a nice ending point, but then it goes on with this stupid ass Minmei triangle. I don't wanna deal with her douchebag liberal brother anymore, or Minmei for that matter.

No, I guess not, but since you already there — might as well finish it.
This part only exists to conclude the romance, last episode is pretty good.

If you hate Minmay then you definitely should, if you catch my drift.

I agree that 27 was the better point to end though.

Frontier is basically the final season and as such has tons of callbacks, I’d say so

I thought it was pretty cool how they deconstructed their own ending in episode 27 in the later episodes.
Singing a song doesn't actually fix the issues, and especially when the effect of the song is just the surprise of something new, when the people are used to music they become immune and go back to the violence they're used to.

Some more then others
7, Plus and Zero don't really need any background knowledge
Frontier and Delta have a few callbacks but aren't necessary
DYRL only really works if you've only seen SDFM

would it be safe to just watch them in release order? skipping the ova/movies that are just recaps or retellings of previous seasons? i dont mind watching them all but just dont want to waste time if its not necessary

>skipping the ova/movies
That's the best part of the franchise and if you want to skip that — might as well don't touch Macross at all.

i meant the ones that are listed as recaps of previous seasons, at least on the wiki
ill watch them if theyre worth it as i said earlier

Release order is the best order. Also, some of the best content in the franchise is in movies/OVAs (like Do You Remember Love and Dynamite), so you shouldn't skip those.

Recaps like FB7 and such you can skip though, yeah.

You can skip Plus, FB7 is your standard reaction fic if you’re into that

>listed as recaps
The only recaps I remember are Dyrl\Plus movie edition and frontier movies, maybe Plus movie can be skipped if you seen the OVA, but Dyrl and Frontier movies are great.

The only movies that are actual recaps are the Plus one and FB7. DYRL and the Frontier/Delta movies are retellings with new content.

If you mean DYRL and the two Frontier movies, they aren't recaps in the way you're probably thinking. DYRL and the second Frontier movie are 100% new animation and the first Frontier movie is also mostly new animation.

The Macross Plus movie, on the other hand, is an actual re-edit of the OAVs.

Can we all agree that

Dynamite > Plus = DYRL > 7 = SDF >>>>> Delta = Frontier = Zero > Lover's Again

Yes? Cool thanks

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Top tier:
7

Good Tier
Plus, Frontier

Okay tier
SDF, Zero, Macross 30 (game)

Shit tier
Delta

No, we can't.
Plus > Zero > SDFM ~ DYRL > Dynamite > first Frontier movie >>> second F movie > rest of M7 > Frontier TV >Macross II

Fact: Macross Plus is like Cowboy Bebop: an anime made for and aimed at people who hate anime.

This is the first time I've ever seen anyone rank Zero that high. Genuinely curious as to what are your reasons.

The second episode of Dynamite is so gratuitously Australia-triggering.

No but a lot of people agree that the first one is the best

i can't think of a single franchise where release order is not the best way to consume it.

Just because it has a bunch of weird wildlife? I don't get it

I started with Frontier and went - Delta - SDF - Plus - 7. I had no trouble understanding or liking Frontier and Delta, but I definitely would've enjoyed them more I had watched them after their predecessors. SDFM and DYRL were easily my favorites though.

Mostly for the art\audio directing and amazing scenes, but in pretty much every regard it's just a good Macross anime at least for the set standard I don't understand why people dislike it as much as they do. Rather ugly CGI is not enough to turn me off.

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Kawamori did the whole waifu war faggotry years before Anno.

Fair enough, it does have a very pleasant visual aesthetic and setting. It's the one thing that has stuck in my memory from it.

Was thinking more of the loli nudity and attempted rape of Mylene.

Oh, I get it now. You're totally right.

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Threadly reminder that Mylene is cute
C U T E

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Fivehead.

>Mylene

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You don't need to but SDF and 7 are the only ones worth watching.

I think it would be okay if it wasn't Macross. It just didn't feel anything like the rest of the series.

>When you're 14 and your mother's already trying to set you up so she can be a grandmother because of how much fun she had making all the babies

You can totally watch DYRL without watching the show. Back in my day i had only watched Robotech (which obviously doesn´t actually count as watching Macross) before watching the movie. Didn´t watch the original show propperly ´till years later.

I would say watch DYRL and then maybe frontier.

Why did the giant aliens suddenly have elf ears? they did not have them in the original series.

watch only SDF. Drop it after.
Macross 7 is a horrible children's cartoon.
The only reason I finished the show is pic related's development.

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You were so close to being right, just had to add Plus

I think its probably because it lacks a lot of things people look for in a macross series. I would argue behind solid story and characters, most macross fans look for a good mix between good mecha/military aspect, good music, and good character dynamics/relationships.
And going through Zero, although its been a few years iirc:
The dogfights if you ignore the CG are nothing too special, and I remember being a bit miffed about not getting more background on the unification wars or the anti-UN.
It might of had the weakest songs/soundtrack of the franchise. I do remember one good song (forget whats its called) but its no where close compared to the other series
Besides Roy the characters were kinda lack luster, hell I would even argue Shin is the blandest macross protagonist yet (he makes Hikaru seem brimming with personality by comparison) I will amid there are more annoying characters through the franchise, but Zeros overall cast where a little unremarkable.

I do think zero was a decent mecha show but as a macross entry it might of been on the weaker end

Original series Zentraedi are like original series Klingons. "We do not talk about it".

The Original, Seven, and actually I'd watch plus after seven even though it's a prequel. Most of the movies/OVAs are worth it.
The other series, it depends. If you absolutely love those first three things, go wild. It IS interesting to watch music get...gradually more weaponized and become a terrible thing by the end of Delta... feels irredeemably *human*.

hey I stand by Gigile's development in the second half, specially when he starts singing basara's songs rite back into his face

What a great moment.

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Watch SDF for the canon, DYRL is the in universe movie compilation of SDF

Watch Plus and 7 for continuing the canon in different ways what happened to Zentran/Meltran during times of peace

Watch Zero as a prequel setting up some of the deculture shenanigans, it will feel less spacey since it's set between WW3 and SDF

Watch Frontier for more canon and enjoy the music before the Idol shenanigans really hit the wall

Watch Delta just for apjuu and GIRI GIRI AI

Macross II has pretty much been decanonized

Macross 30 is the anniversary megacrossover, probably one of the best games out of the franchise (if you can into moon)

Yeah, it is one of the more distinct and better looking OVA out there.
>I think it would be okay if it wasn't Macross
I disagree. Without Kawamori or Macross bucks it would turn into another Yukikaze and would look not nearly as good.
>didn't feel anything like the rest of the series
Well it did lack romance triangles, the romance itself is way too bitter and approach to the soundtrack is different too, but what's not Macross about it otherwise?
I strongly disagree with pretty much everything you have said.
>solid story and characters
Check, especially for an OVA.
>macross fans look for a good mix between good mecha/military aspect
You mean they don't? Because that's Tominofags. Check nonetheless, at least as far as Macross series goes.
>good music
Check, but no catchy songs this time around I guess.
>good character dynamics/relationships.
Check, two romantic storylines for the price of one, both delivered.
>Shin is the blandest macross protagonist
Probably. I would say it's better this way than literal autists.
>Zeros overall cast where a little unremarkable.
Lies, great artstyle and char designs too.
>macross entry it might of been on the weaker end
Macrossfags have shit taste confirmed. Now I finally understand why it's disliked so much.

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Can they just announce Delta 4th Live already? I know we're getting a new single next month but I want to see them live before corona does the country in.

though apparently nether the show or the movies are canon and are just shows within universe that are just fictionalizations of the events in universe. which is why the SDF looks like the movie version even though the show events are canon.

i ended up watching the entire franchise because of that song

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GIRI GIRI AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Daily reminder that Robotech is the best gateway drug, and Lynn Minmay is so worst that they weaponized her to destroy a race of superior warrior space niggers.

pic related, it's mai waifu

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>You mean they don't? Because that's Tominofags. Check nonetheless, at least as far as Macross series goes.
Like I said, still we didn't get much about the unification wars or the anti-UN which is what people where looking for in in a macross prequel

>Lies, great art-style and char designs too.
Wasn't talking about what they looked like but how they acted, like a said earlier Shin had little to no personality and Sara was only a little bit better, Mao probably had the most but that mainly boiled down to leaving the island. which is why the love triangle kinda fell flat even though on paper it should of been fine

>Macrossfags have shit taste confirmed. Now I finally understand why it's disliked so much.
I could be flippant like you and accuse you of only liking zero because minus the cgi it had "pretty colors" (because it kinda seems that way mate), but I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that that is not the case

Based

I don't care what people say about delta mikumo is my favorite macross girl

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discount sheryl

her singing voice is better and knoing it came from a 16 year old makes it more impressive

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Just started Macross 30 some days ago and is fantastic. Gotta love how you can use Mina (best girl) as support or wingman.

Also Im looking forward to watching all those franchise story videos they included.