Trying to get one has been beyond redpilling. Every jeweller hides costs, tries to conceal low quality flaws, will swear they're offering you the best price on the phone when you've got a better one visible on their own website.
Pretty sure blue nile even has some scam where they have an 'imposter' email great deals to the subscribe base but then they won't offer those deals as they are illegitimate once there. I tried two separate emails signing up to their site and both started getting the fake mail.
In person they're even worse asking you double the price than online and i had one telling me there was no possible way the pandemic would affect their ability to deliver the literal day before lockdown started.
> in b4 diamonds are inherently a scam I know, but in real life not everyone you form relationships with is as autistic as we are and concessions have to be made.
The money your gonna lose on the ring is the least of your worries
Nicholas Green
You just admitted that you are buying to conform to the social norm, so why do you care about flaws or being ripped off? That is the point. Just be sure to "accidentally" leave the price tag in the box, because you think gold differ gf/fiancee cares about it.
Jordan Young
lurk no reserve auctions. turn stone into jewel at local jewelcrafter.
The prices there don't seem all that low considering the poor quality.
Christopher Rodriguez
It's good to be sceptic, but competition is always fierce. The vultures will snatch away good deals from under your nose. Put in the effort, follow stones you might like, see what different quality stones yield prisewise (also with regard to estimates if given). But if you look for a IF / VVS D-F color 3 carat diamond for under 5-10K you might want to do some more research fren.
It's not that women have been jewed into liking them that concerns me, it's the huge markup and artifical scarcity on a cheap item. So I'm happy to go for lab diamonds for example, as they're the same in every way but price, but im not going to lie.
Jeremiah Russell
To be honest even the artifical scarcity isn't the worst part of it, that's pretty common in business. It's the general underhandedness of the retailers. They'll make you fight tooth and nail to get $10 under asking and then you'll see a better diamond for cheaper on their own store. I've spent weeks now dealing with them and that's what's making me want to abandon the whole process, not the price itself.
Gabriel Garcia
I guy a lot of jewery and gold at estate auctions and invite only autions for fractions of retail and wholesale. I have so much gold, silver, gemstones that the last time it was moved it needed two forklifts working for a full day.
Carter Adams
Retail is a special margin tax on tards and normies. If you want to get into gems, jewellery and Pms then learn gemmology, hallmarks and the wholesale and estate auction trade and get gud
Grayson Sanders
>concessions have to be made I'm sure the ring will look nice on her finger while it's wrapped around a BBC cuckhead
Camden Gonzalez
To get this inpersepective the last time my antique arms collection was moved it needed a sixteen wheeler and the police arranged two police cars, one marked one unmarked and two 4x4s with the army in them for free because I informed them that I was moving it and they were terrified what would happen if it got robbed and they had to deal with criminals armed like pirates and confederate soldiers...
Adrian Cooper
100%. Though diamonds and other shiny rocks have a certain unartificial scarcity. Truth is the diamond price is kept up at certain levels worldwide. Maybe better to spend weeks trawling no-reserve auctions to get a hopefully somewhat satisfieing deal.
That ring is terribly ugly. Get something unique and special that doesn't come from jewelers. Buy something without a gem on it. Something that is 10 dollars can be more attractive than something worth 1,000 dollars. Find a woman who understands this. Those with a creative mind and high emotional intelligence understand.
Grayson Martin
I have never tried to move my art collection in one go. To fucking difficult and stressful.
William James
OP me again, just buy a few good diamond rings from estate auctions and if you MUST give them to a jewler with a five gram 24K bar and have them cast you some giant bling monstrosity. If you buy an engagement ring at a retail jewellery you really deserve everything you get including the fake valuation insurance cert. Fuck certificates, buy good old cut large quality diamonds in antique rings with the correct hallmarks and styles, cuts and quality. The gimp in retail talking to you probably knows about as much about gems and quality as you do, that is nothing and most jewellers these days are talentless hacks or mlp infertile women who love collage and can barely lost wax cast, let alone silver solder well and they certainly can't cut or appraise stones
Thomas Adams
What price range are you guys looking at for your hoes? I was thinking of getting my hoe a ring that would range from 7-9K and have a 2 Carat lab diamond.
Joseph Kelly
Bump because I want more info
Gavin Hernandez
>getting married in 2020 >not expecting to be divorced raped 10 years from now
Sebastian Gray
checkerd. I thought lab grown diamonds are so expensive to create that there is no economic value in doing that. So there shouldnt be any on the market. 7-9 k will get u a nice stone, good color not too many inclusions, but aim for 1ct. Above 1ct prices go up fast.
I might add something perhaps obvious. If you want spotless color, cut and clarity, you'll get a smaller carat cap for ur 8k. Slightly more included, slightly less good color grade might not be an issue, might not be that noticable. And then a bigger stone is in pricerange. Law of communicating barrel as it were.
Also, thoughts on lab diamond online retailers like cleanorigin.com?
Justin Thompson
Don’t get married man. You’re walking straight off a cliff, and the money isn’t even the worst part. You thi no you feel so good when you are with her but that shit all fades away until she’s just a fat roommate who doesn’t pull her weight and your whole life will be destroyed if you ever try to cut this barnacle loose. That person selling you the ring is what your wife will be in 5 years, except now it’s a new car, or a remodeled kitchen or a bigger house. And you’ll have to comply with it all or she’ll monkey branch to your boss. It’s a fucked game mate, and there’s only one winning move.
It’s a fucked game for most people but not all mate. You just have to find someone who you can trust won’t fuck you over and is a good investment. If you’re not longing women you’re doing it wrong. For example, my future wife is a PHD candidate that is guaranteed 150K plus a year when she graduates and is getting the degree for free through a fellowship so no debt either. If you’re marrying a dependapotamus you’re guaranteed to have a fucked up time
Justin Roberts
Check out pawn shops. I bought my engagement ring there for $1700. It was a leo diamond ring going for $10k at Zales or wherever that diamond is sold. Got a new solitaire band for like $400 and had a local jeweler transfer the diamond.
Mason Young
Im looking at auctions and they are good, however time is also now a factor both with the pandemic but also how long this has taken so retail does have some pull.
Liam Stewart
>PHD candidate What field?
Jack Myers
UK so £4k. Just over 1ct, colour is a major factor for me when i went looking so I'd rather smaller D or E, excellent cut. Lab is perfectly fine and if i don't see something in auction it's what ill go for.
Jace Young
Lmao already there tbqh. But I've been with my female roommate who i have to watch netflix with for so long now the only option is marriage.
Colton Jenkins
What ethnic group is most associated with diamond sales in your area? For me, it's the Eskimo. Darndest thing you ever saw.
Connor Rogers
Like most people who have had success, I got lucky OP. My fiance was engaged to someone else, but then "he" decided he wanted to be a women. She kept the ring. The ring was pirchased for about 4k USD. I spent a few hundred to modify the ring so it was slightly different, proposed, and now married. >tl;dr a tranny footed the bill for my engagement ring
Mason Parker
Are certificates often a problem? As for the ring it wouldn't be anything bling. Solitaire.