Self improvement

How how do I stop being a nice guy? Has anyone actually successfully improved themselves into a bad boy?

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dont be a nice guy or a bad boy
just be a good man

Who is looking for a good man?

If this is about getting women or getting up in the corporate world, the same rule applies - just don't be overly nice to them, don't be an asshole obviously, but being super friendly is off putting to a lot of people. If you want to be dating/have professional respect, be confident/stoic and polite but kinda distant, or you could not look for advice like this on Yas Forums jk (kinda). Trust your gut

>don't be an asshole
So why do women dates assholes?

Good women are.

I have trouble with this, but for any habit I don't find acceptable in myself I create a rule to abide by to change this. For example, if I thought I were too nice, I would decline every other request unless it brought me closer to money or in my self interest. It helped me alter my thinking.

>Good women are.
And yet that's not who they date.

Women date dickheads because people of both genders who deal with dickheads naturally want to prove them wrong or stick around because they feel it is a fault of their own that the person they're dealing with is such a prick.
its an abusive relationship.
Its like having friends who are actually complete assholes but you always go through the motions of "man fuck that guy" and "ehh he cant be that bad".

It's inadvertent emotional manipulation.

Women who date genuine assholes are not ones you would be happy with ultimately. Again, don't treat her like garbage, but be kinda distant and mysterious NOT shy and spergy, a lot of guys think this is being rude but most girls seem to want guys more if the guys show less interest

this book is pretty stupid. if you're not good looking it doesn't matter whether you're a pushover or a fucking asshole, women will not be attracted to you (at least until link moons and you're a millionaire).

Except women seek out those men in the first place.

Wrong, looks don't matter. You just have to be confident.

You only want to be a bad boy because you're insecure about yourself. You just need to find friends who respect you for who you are, which has never been easier than in the current day and age. The "be yourself" thing is not a meme. Stop trying to impress random assholes.

learn to say no

lol if you actually believe that looks don't matter. confidence definitely will help you get laid, but it's not going to take you from a 3 to an 8. reading a book sure as fuck isn't going to turn you into a bad boy overnight either. people that are confident are confident because women are attracted to them and they have lots of friends. it's not like charisma is something you can learn. you either have it or you don't.

This is most of it desu. You have to be able say no other people AND yourself.

When dickheads seek you out and you get stuck in the motions of it, you start seeking them out in return.

It's funny seeing women sperg out at normal behavior and call it "nice guy" because they think you're trying to get in their pants or something

>it's not like charisma is something you can learn. you either have it or you don't.


It kind of is. Some people have charisma the way women have bad hair days. It ebbs and flows, and somedays they're just smoother and more persuasive. Other days they can be really awkward and shy.


There are also many different forms of charisma too. Some people project charm, humour, and intelligence, whereas others authority and dominance. It's not really a one-size fits all type deal.

>i-it's those badboy dickheads who seeked out those women and made them want them!
You sound like a nice guy yourself

Gain testosterone

The key is to get off to a good start in life, specifically during your formative years. If you get dealt a raw hand or your trip up and things just don't quite go your way romantically or socially, you'll be playing catch up for decades to come (at the very least).

i was a clingy dork for 3 years of my life when i started seeking out a relationship, and after a lot of sex heartbreak and inward-looking i smoothed out all my retard parts and have been in a relationship for 2 years now.

I was never a nice guy.
being the Nice Guy is disingenuous. They wanna get in someones pant's like everyone else.
No point pretending and dancing around the topic.

The whole thing is dynamical. You can bad boy or good boy, it doesn't matter. I've played both sides of that field and I can tell you there are certain women that will be more attracted to the good and others attracted to the bad, while some are indiscriminate hussies.

Your status doesn't matter, either. I've slept with bitches while "homeless" (not like stinky street bum type homeless) and I've banged out sluts while solo holding down my own place, and I've fucked girls working minimum wage living with my parents smoking pot working in food service.

The big gauges aren't intelligence or looks. It's security. If you're content with who you are and you don't want to flip from good to bad, or from poor to rich, you're going to be centered. If you're constantly grasping at being the future, then you can't act in the present and so you're intrinsically insecure in action-of-the-moment.

Here's the thing with security: all you have to do is say: I'm Ted, the 22 year old burger flipper with a negative net worth, no talents and nothing impressive. I recognize I can do better, and so I will move in a trajectory that I think I can afford myself. I will sleep with fatties, I will sleep with the goon squad, I will sleep with Stacy. I will move to local management, I will move to regional management, I will become the regional director. But right now, I'm just Ted, down $3k on my Honda, flipping boogers at MacD. But don't attach value, or a lack thereof to you. Time is defined as an evolutionary sequence.

Also know that a lot of bitches are just S C U M. Never seen a day of adversity or spent the night alone. They never needed to develop a sense of responsibility or consequence. They're boring and lacking in insight, and you're absolutely in your right to dismiss them with some light jocular jabbing when they sound like a dumb bitch.

This is absolutely wrong, and you're a defeatist bitch. You should feel bad.

Stop being such a fag. Stop caring about what other people think, and they will think better of you. Just be your own person and stop giving a fuck about the validation about other people. It is nice but it does not matter in the slightest. They will respect you for not caring about their opinion, it is like how women will chase the men that don't chase them.
t. Been called a bad boy by my Mommy

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I'M A VERY GOOD BAD BOY

Did your mommy call you handsome too?

>They wanna get in someones pant's like everyone else.
>No point pretending and dancing around the topic.


That's true but this idea that men ONLY wanna fuck is harmful for both sexes. Building a connection and trust is necessary. A sexual connection is important, but our culture gives it too much precedent over the ways you can connect with a woman.


Obviously everyone wants to fuck, but you don't HAVE TO. Our whole dating culture is fucked up.

Learn how to be more selfish

Yes. She usually calls me her "handsome boy" when she's not mad at me, but I accidentally shit my bed after eating my birthday cake yesterday.

We're alike you & I.
Crossfaded? Thats when I shit.

like attracts like
be happy you didn't end up with one of them

also stop cooming

>also stop cooming
Will that help me waste my life on Yas Forums like it did for you?

oh, no
I'd argue girls want to bang even more.

and yeah dating culture is completely totalled.
More morally bankrupt than when I was going in.
Sex first, but love and a relationship is a scary word to zoomers.

I bought the GF dip, thank god.

>I'd argue girls want to bang even more.

Definitely. I've never successfully gotten with a girl I was trying to bang. Every time it happens it feels like I'm seduced or basically tricked into sleeping with them.